San Francisco is imploding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations are the critical step, and necessary precedent step, for a just, equitable and peaceful SF.

Explain to me exactly how the mechanics of reparations work. Why should an immigrant who had absolutely nothing to do with the oppressive history or policies have to pay? And who collects? What if you're black, but an African immigrant who was never enslaved by Westerners? Or what if you're West Indian, who was enslaved, but entirely under different colonialism than US history? Exactly how do you calculate an EQUITABLE solution, of who pays, how much they pay, and who receives, and how much they receive? And do you really think some kind of simple cash payout will actually solve the social issues?

When you decide to come to a country you take the baggage it has.

That’s the difference; African Americans didn’t have agency.

No peace no Justice. Equity now!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations are the critical step, and necessary precedent step, for a just, equitable and peaceful SF.

Explain to me exactly how the mechanics of reparations work. Why should an immigrant who had absolutely nothing to do with the oppressive history or policies have to pay? And who collects? What if you're black, but an African immigrant who was never enslaved by Westerners? Or what if you're West Indian, who was enslaved, but entirely under different colonialism than US history? Exactly how do you calculate an EQUITABLE solution, of who pays, how much they pay, and who receives, and how much they receive? And do you really think some kind of simple cash payout will actually solve the social issues?

When you decide to come to a country you take the baggage it has.

That’s the difference; African Americans didn’t have agency.

No peace no Justice. Equity now!

Wrong. An immigrant who arrived after slavery ended has ZERO responsibility for it. Someone born into this society didn't have agency, either. There's no equity in just randomly thrusting this upon everyone. What you are demanding is NOT equity.

In other words, you don't have an answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations are the critical step, and necessary precedent step, for a just, equitable and peaceful SF.

Explain to me exactly how the mechanics of reparations work. Why should an immigrant who had absolutely nothing to do with the oppressive history or policies have to pay? And who collects? What if you're black, but an African immigrant who was never enslaved by Westerners? Or what if you're West Indian, who was enslaved, but entirely under different colonialism than US history? Exactly how do you calculate an EQUITABLE solution, of who pays, how much they pay, and who receives, and how much they receive? And do you really think some kind of simple cash payout will actually solve the social issues?

When you decide to come to a country you take the baggage it has.

That’s the difference; African Americans didn’t have agency.

No peace no Justice. Equity now!

Wrong. An immigrant who arrived after slavery ended has ZERO responsibility for it. Someone born into this society didn't have agency, either. There's no equity in just randomly thrusting this upon everyone. What you are demanding is NOT equity.

In other words, you don't have an answer.

And you don’t have an answer for peace on your streets, so there’s that, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations are the critical step, and necessary precedent step, for a just, equitable and peaceful SF.

Explain to me exactly how the mechanics of reparations work. Why should an immigrant who had absolutely nothing to do with the oppressive history or policies have to pay? And who collects? What if you're black, but an African immigrant who was never enslaved by Westerners? Or what if you're West Indian, who was enslaved, but entirely under different colonialism than US history? Exactly how do you calculate an EQUITABLE solution, of who pays, how much they pay, and who receives, and how much they receive? And do you really think some kind of simple cash payout will actually solve the social issues?

When you decide to come to a country you take the baggage it has.

That’s the difference; African Americans didn’t have agency.

No peace no Justice. Equity now!

Somewhere along the way “Justice!” turned into “Free Money!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The title of this thread looks especially dumb now.

Congrats on jumping to conclusions, OP!

This murder has nada to do with San Francisco except some dude was mad at someone his sister knows and they all lived there or nearby.

I wish people would think before spouting off whatever Fox News or Elon Musk says about “crime” in cities.

Wow, you're a moron. The links posted in the first post have nothing to do with the stabbing, idiot. Whole Foods is closing because of too much crime. Starbucks cannot have seating for guests because of too many homeless encampments inside stores. There is also still an $800M budget hole now.

Get some reading comprehension, clown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The title of this thread looks especially dumb now.

Congrats on jumping to conclusions, OP!

This murder has nada to do with San Francisco except some dude was mad at someone his sister knows and they all lived there or nearby.

I wish people would think before spouting off whatever Fox News or Elon Musk says about “crime” in cities.

Wow, you're a moron. The links posted in the first post have nothing to do with the stabbing, idiot. Whole Foods is closing because of too much crime. Starbucks cannot have seating for guests because of too many homeless encampments inside stores. There is also still an $800M budget hole now.

Get some reading comprehension, clown.

That $800M budget hole is over 2 years. $400M on a recenues of $6500. So really not as dire as you suggest. And a whole foods closing is *truly* a pearl-clutching moment, but it is only a temporary closure. Kudos to you for carefully you track nationwide grocery store safety, but I'm personally more concerned about the stores experiencing mass shootings. People are dying in stores across the country, but this is where you see civilization crumbling? SMH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The title of this thread looks especially dumb now.

Congrats on jumping to conclusions, OP!

This murder has nada to do with San Francisco except some dude was mad at someone his sister knows and they all lived there or nearby.

I wish people would think before spouting off whatever Fox News or Elon Musk says about “crime” in cities.

Wow, you're a moron. The links posted in the first post have nothing to do with the stabbing, idiot. Whole Foods is closing because of too much crime. Starbucks cannot have seating for guests because of too many homeless encampments inside stores. There is also still an $800M budget hole now.

Get some reading comprehension, clown.

That $800M budget hole is over 2 years. $400M on a recenues of $6500. So really not as dire as you suggest. And a whole foods closing is *truly* a pearl-clutching moment, but it is only a temporary closure. Kudos to you for carefully you track nationwide grocery store safety, but I'm personally more concerned about the stores experiencing mass shootings. People are dying in stores across the country, but this is where you see civilization crumbling? SMH

DP
Sounds pretty dire to me.

A combination of rising expenses and diminishing revenue sent the city’s estimated deficit to $728 million, according to the most recent projections, and Mayor London Breed’s Office has told departments to slash spending and prepare for the worst.

To balance the budget, Breed ordered departments to cut 5% from their budgets in the next fiscal year and 8% the year following while preserving key policy priorities, including public safety, reducing homelessness and promoting economic recovery. It’s clear, however, that major trade-offs are in order.

The city’s budget has been hit hard by falling business and property tax revenues as remote work emptied out Downtown offices.

Declining commercial property values could further erode property taxes—the city’s biggest cash cow—amid what officials acknowledge as a “permanent shift” away from Downtown offices. Appeals of property assessments are expected to rise from 2,592 in the last fiscal year to around 3,800 in fiscal year 2024-2025.

Currently, the city is relying on a “conservative” estimate of office vacancies that sees a peak of about 29% this year before declining to 22.6% by the end of 2026.

That’s accompanied by a slump in home values, particularly in the condo market. Budget officials expect condo prices to dip over the next few years, but recover by 2027.

According to a draft five-year financial plan, city officials project a deficit that grows annually from $200 million to $1.2 billion over the next five fiscal years.

https://sfstandard.com/politics/city-hall/mayor-breed-orders-belt-tightening-as-budget-shortfall-soars/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The title of this thread looks especially dumb now.

Congrats on jumping to conclusions, OP!

This murder has nada to do with San Francisco except some dude was mad at someone his sister knows and they all lived there or nearby.

I wish people would think before spouting off whatever Fox News or Elon Musk says about “crime” in cities.

Wow, you're a moron. The links posted in the first post have nothing to do with the stabbing, idiot. Whole Foods is closing because of too much crime. Starbucks cannot have seating for guests because of too many homeless encampments inside stores. There is also still an $800M budget hole now.

Get some reading comprehension, clown.

That $800M budget hole is over 2 years. $400M on a recenues of $6500. So really not as dire as you suggest. And a whole foods closing is *truly* a pearl-clutching moment, but it is only a temporary closure. Kudos to you for carefully you track nationwide grocery store safety, but I'm personally more concerned about the stores experiencing mass shootings. People are dying in stores across the country, but this is where you see civilization crumbling? SMH

DP
Sounds pretty dire to me.

A combination of rising expenses and diminishing revenue sent the city’s estimated deficit to $728 million, according to the most recent projections, and Mayor London Breed’s Office has told departments to slash spending and prepare for the worst.

To balance the budget, Breed ordered departments to cut 5% from their budgets in the next fiscal year and 8% the year following while preserving key policy priorities, including public safety, reducing homelessness and promoting economic recovery. It’s clear, however, that major trade-offs are in order.

The city’s budget has been hit hard by falling business and property tax revenues as remote work emptied out Downtown offices.

Declining commercial property values could further erode property taxes—the city’s biggest cash cow—amid what officials acknowledge as a “permanent shift” away from Downtown offices. Appeals of property assessments are expected to rise from 2,592 in the last fiscal year to around 3,800 in fiscal year 2024-2025.

Currently, the city is relying on a “conservative” estimate of office vacancies that sees a peak of about 29% this year before declining to 22.6% by the end of 2026.

That’s accompanied by a slump in home values, particularly in the condo market. Budget officials expect condo prices to dip over the next few years, but recover by 2027.

According to a draft five-year financial plan, city officials project a deficit that grows annually from $200 million to $1.2 billion over the next five fiscal years.

https://sfstandard.com/politics/city-hall/mayor-breed-orders-belt-tightening-as-budget-shortfall-soars/

Yes, if they increase spending by $1.4 billion a year and everything goes wrong with both the housing and commercial real estate markets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations are the critical step, and necessary precedent step, for a just, equitable and peaceful SF.

Explain to me exactly how the mechanics of reparations work. Why should an immigrant who had absolutely nothing to do with the oppressive history or policies have to pay? And who collects? What if you're black, but an African immigrant who was never enslaved by Westerners? Or what if you're West Indian, who was enslaved, but entirely under different colonialism than US history? Exactly how do you calculate an EQUITABLE solution, of who pays, how much they pay, and who receives, and how much they receive? And do you really think some kind of simple cash payout will actually solve the social issues?

When you decide to come to a country you take the baggage it has.

That’s the difference; African Americans didn’t have agency.

No peace no Justice. Equity now!

Wrong. An immigrant who arrived after slavery ended has ZERO responsibility for it. Someone born into this society didn't have agency, either. There's no equity in just randomly thrusting this upon everyone. What you are demanding is NOT equity.

In other words, you don't have an answer.

And you don’t have an answer for peace on your streets, so there’s that, too.

Actually the answer is FAFO. Take up violence, and get arrested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The title of this thread looks especially dumb now.

Congrats on jumping to conclusions, OP!

This murder has nada to do with San Francisco except some dude was mad at someone his sister knows and they all lived there or nearby.

I wish people would think before spouting off whatever Fox News or Elon Musk says about “crime” in cities.

Wow, you're a moron. The links posted in the first post have nothing to do with the stabbing, idiot. Whole Foods is closing because of too much crime. Starbucks cannot have seating for guests because of too many homeless encampments inside stores. There is also still an $800M budget hole now.

Get some reading comprehension, clown.

That $800M budget hole is over 2 years. $400M on a recenues of $6500. So really not as dire as you suggest. And a whole foods closing is *truly* a pearl-clutching moment, but it is only a temporary closure. Kudos to you for carefully you track nationwide grocery store safety, but I'm personally more concerned about the stores experiencing mass shootings. People are dying in stores across the country, but this is where you see civilization crumbling? SMH

It is a pearl clutching moment. Where are liberal whites supposed to shop free of black people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations are the critical step, and necessary precedent step, for a just, equitable and peaceful SF.

Explain to me exactly how the mechanics of reparations work. Why should an immigrant who had absolutely nothing to do with the oppressive history or policies have to pay? And who collects? What if you're black, but an African immigrant who was never enslaved by Westerners? Or what if you're West Indian, who was enslaved, but entirely under different colonialism than US history? Exactly how do you calculate an EQUITABLE solution, of who pays, how much they pay, and who receives, and how much they receive? And do you really think some kind of simple cash payout will actually solve the social issues?

When you decide to come to a country you take the baggage it has.

That’s the difference; African Americans didn’t have agency.

No peace no Justice. Equity now!

Wrong. An immigrant who arrived after slavery ended has ZERO responsibility for it. Someone born into this society didn't have agency, either. There's no equity in just randomly thrusting this upon everyone. What you are demanding is NOT equity.

In other words, you don't have an answer.

And you don’t have an answer for peace on your streets, so there’s that, too.

Actually the answer is FAFO. Take up violence, and get arrested.

Yeah, so newsflash, you don’t run america any more. So joke is on you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations are the critical step, and necessary precedent step, for a just, equitable and peaceful SF.

Explain to me exactly how the mechanics of reparations work. Why should an immigrant who had absolutely nothing to do with the oppressive history or policies have to pay? And who collects? What if you're black, but an African immigrant who was never enslaved by Westerners? Or what if you're West Indian, who was enslaved, but entirely under different colonialism than US history? Exactly how do you calculate an EQUITABLE solution, of who pays, how much they pay, and who receives, and how much they receive? And do you really think some kind of simple cash payout will actually solve the social issues?

When you decide to come to a country you take the baggage it has.

That’s the difference; African Americans didn’t have agency.

No peace no Justice. Equity now!

Wrong. An immigrant who arrived after slavery ended has ZERO responsibility for it. Someone born into this society didn't have agency, either. There's no equity in just randomly thrusting this upon everyone. What you are demanding is NOT equity.

In other words, you don't have an answer.

And you don’t have an answer for peace on your streets, so there’s that, too.

Actually the answer is FAFO. Take up violence, and get arrested.

Yeah, so newsflash, you don’t run america any more. So joke is on you.

Exactly. San Francisco belongs to the streets now.

RiP shining city on a hill.

[Anonymous]

California should pay anyone and everyone whatever they want. They kind of already do; but who cares? It’s a California issue. Should not impact anyone who does not live there.

Let them do what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:California should pay anyone and everyone whatever they want. They kind of already do; but who cares? It’s a California issue. Should not impact anyone who does not live there.

Let them do what they want.

We have seen far too many ridiculous issues arise in CA and make their ways across the states. This is one they can keep in their failing state.
And, then there is slimeball Newsom out on the speaking circuit pretending he is not running for president. He can keep his failing policies in CA. We don't want him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And what do you suggest they do to fix it, PP? Lock up every man, woman, and child on the streets in a for-profit prison?

That would be dreamy, but even better, put them to work to turn a profit!