What is the future of heterosexual dating when the number of men attending college continues to drop

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Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

I predict less marriage in general. I think Gen Z is not so interested.

[Anonymous]

I am a middle aged man, not a woman, but I hear women talk about this a lot. Some of the women (typically the ones who are very nice looking and good at talking to men) are finding men for long term relationships. But many of the women are going through long dry spells. Then they usually interrupt the dry spells in one of two ways. They have long relationships with men who are less educated or suceesful than they are. Or they have short term (sometimes very short term) relationships with men who are pretty much as educated and successful as they imagined, but aren't available for more than a few days or weeks or maybe a month or two.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the data that shows that blue collar professions on average make more than white collar ones after paying back college loans?

You are missing the point. People without college aren’t the financial Berden that people think because they are making as much or more than their counterparts so stop using college as be all to end all, was the point.

So where's the data on this? Particularly for the millennials who should have enough data on this by now.

I can only go on my own data. I make about 220 k with no college whatsoever, but have done great without it.

Good example of why, in general, college is correlated more with success PP. You appear to have never been taught how to extrapolate beyond your own experiences. Of course, some people who don't go to college do great. And some people who go to college end up as failures. But statistically, the group who goes to college is much more likely to be successful. And your solo experience does not disprove that point.

DP you sound very arrogant. Why don’t you post your resume and w2 for comparison?

Again, PP, you are missing the point. FWIW, I make more than $220k, but neither your single case nor mine proves the point that statistically, college graduates are much more likely to have financial and career success than non-graduates. It's not an attack on you or anybody else - it's simply a statistical fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]I am a middle aged man, not a woman, but I hear women talk about this a lot[/b]. Some of the women (typically the ones who are very nice looking and good at talking to men) are finding men for long term relationships. But many of the women are going through long dry spells. Then they usually interrupt the dry spells in one of two ways. They have long relationships with men who are less educated or suceesful than they are. Or they have short term (sometimes very short term) relationships with men who are pretty much as educated and successful as they imagined, but aren't available for more than a few days or weeks or maybe a month or two.

LOL, sounds like you have some good insight on the state of women PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

I predict less marriage in general. I think Gen Z is not so interested.

What exactly are they into? Not working, not marriage, not the military. Being taken over by another country? Seems a bit inevitable if they are just anti everything existing.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not really sure what the issue is.
A man could be college educated and still be an amoral scuzzball just as easily as he could be a successful blue collar worker. Having sat through a course on Elizabethan poetry doesn't make one any more or less suitable to raise a child or act as a loving partner.
My lack of formal education is something that Im a little insecure about however I make an excellent honest living and can hold a conversation with pretty much anyone, looking at our current friend roster pretty much every one of them has a degree, there’s a few doctors in there too but they don’t seem any more or less happy then my wife and I; as I think about it the more high powered the job either of them has the more miserable they seem.

I can’t find the exact quote but it was something along the lines of, “if your job is one they had 300 years ago chances are it’s a pretty good job”; builders of all sorts, people who make things and those that care for others seem to me to have a more satisfactory life then my friends who work in insurance, finance or those lost in the middle of a large organization praying not to get fired when their job function is replaced by software.

So basically you hang around people that have degrees and not other blue collar workers. Gotcha.

Lol, yeah I guess I do but the most fun ones don’t have degrees.

Then hang out with them if they are so much better. Stop using people. You don't sound like a good friend.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

I predict less marriage in general. I think Gen Z is not so interested.

What exactly are they into? Not working, not marriage, not the military. Being taken over by another country? Seems a bit inevitable if they are just anti everything existing.

When they are working in the salt mines of Jhelum they sure are going to miss their avocado toast!

[Anonymous]

Man, that concept really makes going to college sound fun!

[Anonymous]

One of the other trends aside from men not attending and not graduating is that the men that are attending and graduating are heavily made up of people from Asian and Middle-Eastern descent. The problem is worse than it looks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

I predict less marriage in general. I think Gen Z is not so interested.

What exactly are they into? Not working, not marriage, not the military. Being taken over by another country? Seems a bit inevitable if they are just anti everything existing.

Gen Z work just not in the way you want (which in hindsight was asinine)

They are into working reasonable hours doing jobs they enjoy, they are into health and community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the other trends aside from men not attending and not graduating is that the men that are attending and graduating are heavily made up of people from Asian and Middle-Eastern descent. The problem is worse than it looks.

Hey, what's wrong with middle eastern men? My DD can scoop them up. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the other trends aside from men not attending and not graduating is that the men that are attending and graduating are heavily made up of people from Asian and Middle-Eastern descent. The problem is worse than it looks.

How is that a problem?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

I predict less marriage in general. I think Gen Z is not so interested.

What exactly are they into? Not working, not marriage, not the military. Being taken over by another country? Seems a bit inevitable if they are just anti everything existing.

Gen Z work just not in the way you want (which in hindsight was asinine)

They are into working reasonable hours doing jobs they enjoy, they are into health and community.

Well health and community are good. Hopefully that at least will help them in the long run.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I say this as a woman who knows that most women would like to marry a college-educated man. But as women dominate the educational landscape, how will dating be affected? Since there will be fewer male college graduates.

Go with the trad school man who works hard, likes kids, coaches sports, runs a business.
Plumbers, GCs, electricians, etc all run apprenticeship models and make a lot of money and can craft their hours on or off. And have great tax advisors writing off the $500k pick ups, home office, etc.

Open your eyes Op.

You say this but this is a minority of men. Just as many tradespeople live from paycheck to paycheck, don't have insurance and are financially insecure. Let's not pretend like every handyman is a hidden titan of commerce.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One of the other trends aside from men not attending and not graduating is that the men that are attending and graduating are heavily made up of people from Asian and Middle-Eastern descent. The problem is worse than it looks.

Hey, what's wrong with middle eastern men? My DD can scoop them up. Thanks!

Does your daughter own a burka by chance?