Errands after dark - am I the only one reconsidering

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I totally won’t do errands after dark. Not because of crime, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder, most people on this board voted for this state of affairs and will do everything in their power to prevent anyone else from fixing the situation.

I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of DC residents. They almost universally vote for progressive candidates, but are shocked at the lawlessness.

Because we know voting for republicans doesn’t help. There was this thing called “trying to overthrow the government” on a January 6 that a very famous Republican man tried to make happen. A Democratic lady saved our a$$es.

I will laugh at you every time you say Republicans are the one who can solve crime. No, they make it worse.

DP, but you are comparing apples to oranges with random armed carjackings and January 6th. Both crimes, but not in any other way comparable to each other.

Do you really not realize how easy it is to simply google crime stats from republican controlled cities to show similar or worse crime rates? How craven of you to distort the facts just to promote partisan hate.

Absolute gaslighting. Crime is far, far worse in Democrat cities.

The murder rate in 2022 was noticeably higher in states that voted for Trump in 2020 than in states that voted for Biden in 2020, though: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states

It's almost as if crime increasing is a national trend, and it's not specifically because of any one policy choice made in D.C. that crime is going up here, too.

The murder rate in red states is because of the high crime rates in Democrat controlled cities within those states.
Nice try.

The murder rate in Trump-voting states was 40 percent higher than in Biden-voting states in 2020, and over the course of the last 21 years, the murder rate in 2020-Trump-voting states was 23 percent higher than it was in Biden-voting-2020 states: https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem

That can't be entirely due to cities. Why would "Democrat controlled cities" in Trump states be so much more violent than they are in Biden states?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are morals and values crumbling in our society?

Where is the respect for other people?

Before most Americans were church going where you were taught these morals and scared into following them by being afraid of the consequences in the afterlife. Also, all laws were enforced (including misdemeanors) and they were toughter.

Both of these things are gone now for the most part and here is the end result.

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Anonymous wrote:We thought about DTSS because it was so much cheaper but due to the longer commute to downtown Washington on the red line, we bit the bullet and paid 20 percent more to live somewhere else. I’m so glad we did. Our neighborhood has not been free of crime — nowhere is — but it hasn’t suffered from nearly as much violent crime as DTSS. Even if we switched jobs and DTSS was closer to our new jobs I don’t think I’d want to move there now. I know a lot of people like DTSS and aren’t bothered by the crime, and I’m glad they found a place they like. For me it’s just too much.

The people that are not bothered by the crime also seem to be the same people who support the enclavement of DTSS which results in making the neighborhood less convenient, as you deduced, and serves to increase crime. It’s unfortunate. While on an objective data basis it may not prove that your current neighborhood or DTSS are safer, the fact that you feel safer is very important and as you have also deduced, living under the constant uncertainty of how bad crime can get in that neighborhood has significant effects on your quality of life.

What is the "enclavement of DTSS"?

Leading urbanist Ed Glasser says that the “15 minute city” concept is equal to enclavement and ghettoization that reduces opportunity. This concept is being actively promoted by many in Silver Spring as the organizing principle for planning and development of Silver Spring. These same individuals have publicly balked at efforts to reduce sources of crime in the community.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/covid19/2021/05/28/the-15-minute-city-is-a-dead-end-cities-must-be-places-of-opportunity-for-everyone/

"Leading urbanist" Ed Glaeser? Ha. Not to mention that he should be embarrassed about that blog post, which consists of arguments against things nobody is arguing for.

Is your contention, anon DCUM rando, that Harvard professor Glaeser is not one of the foremost urban economist in the U.S. and lacks expertise in this area? That’s pretty bold.

Did you read the blog post? Who is saying that people should be forced to stay within their 15-minute areas, whether or not it has what they need, and that there should be no connections between 15-minute areas? That's what he's arguing against.

That is not what is said, so you are misconstruing the point. If DTSS is determined to follow this path, there is evidence that it can lead to more crime.

15-minute city: it should be possible for people to get their daily necessities within a 15-minute walk or bike ride of their homes.
you: this will lead to more crime!

You have not addressed the specific critique of this concept by the leading urban economist in the country that directly leads to such a conclusion. Everyone is free to their own opinions, however I prefer to listen to experts.

Hopefully not the ones who are proven wrong in 3-24 months by conspiracy theorists and a science deniers.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder, most people on this board voted for this state of affairs and will do everything in their power to prevent anyone else from fixing the situation.

I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of DC residents. They almost universally vote for progressive candidates, but are shocked at the lawlessness.

Because we know voting for republicans doesn’t help. There was this thing called “trying to overthrow the government” on a January 6 that a very famous Republican man tried to make happen. A Democratic lady saved our a$$es.

I will laugh at you every time you say Republicans are the one who can solve crime. No, they make it worse.

DP, but you are comparing apples to oranges with random armed carjackings and January 6th. Both crimes, but not in any other way comparable to each other.

Do you really not realize how easy it is to simply google crime stats from republican controlled cities to show similar or worse crime rates? How craven of you to distort the facts just to promote partisan hate.

Absolute gaslighting. Crime is far, far worse in Democrat cities.

The murder rate in 2022 was noticeably higher in states that voted for Trump in 2020 than in states that voted for Biden in 2020, though: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states

It's almost as if crime increasing is a national trend, and it's not specifically because of any one policy choice made in D.C. that crime is going up here, too.

The murder rate in red states is because of the high crime rates in Democrat controlled cities within those states.
Nice try.

In Louisiana, the rural murder rate is almost the same as the urban murder rate, and significantly higher than the nationwide metro murder rate:

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/after-rise-in-killings-louisianas-rural-parishes-twice-as-deadly-as-u-s-metros-data/article_7568a454-11a6-11ed-86db-b7b123e7d8c0.html

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/d7/dd79a1a0-1fcb-11ed-9f78-536c6abac899/62ffa78d7488d.image.jpg?resize=1010%2C985

The Governor of Louisiana is a Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder, most people on this board voted for this state of affairs and will do everything in their power to prevent anyone else from fixing the situation.

I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of DC residents. They almost universally vote for progressive candidates, but are shocked at the lawlessness.

Because we know voting for republicans doesn’t help. There was this thing called “trying to overthrow the government” on a January 6 that a very famous Republican man tried to make happen. A Democratic lady saved our a$$es.

I will laugh at you every time you say Republicans are the one who can solve crime. No, they make it worse.

DP, but you are comparing apples to oranges with random armed carjackings and January 6th. Both crimes, but not in any other way comparable to each other.

Do you really not realize how easy it is to simply google crime stats from republican controlled cities to show similar or worse crime rates? How craven of you to distort the facts just to promote partisan hate.

Absolute gaslighting. Crime is far, far worse in Democrat cities.

The murder rate in 2022 was noticeably higher in states that voted for Trump in 2020 than in states that voted for Biden in 2020, though: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states

It's almost as if crime increasing is a national trend, and it's not specifically because of any one policy choice made in D.C. that crime is going up here, too.

The murder rate in red states is because of the high crime rates in Democrat controlled cities within those states.
Nice try.

In Louisiana, the rural murder rate is almost the same as the urban murder rate, and significantly higher than the nationwide metro murder rate:

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/after-rise-in-killings-louisianas-rural-parishes-twice-as-deadly-as-u-s-metros-data/article_7568a454-11a6-11ed-86db-b7b123e7d8c0.html

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/d7/dd79a1a0-1fcb-11ed-9f78-536c6abac899/62ffa78d7488d.image.jpg?resize=1010%2C985

Exactly. On a per capita basis, rural red counties have every bit as much violent crime as "Dem cities" do. If you multiplied a rural county of 10,000 to make it the size of a major city you'd have as many homicides and other violent crimes as the "Dem city" does.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder, most people on this board voted for this state of affairs and will do everything in their power to prevent anyone else from fixing the situation.

I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of DC residents. They almost universally vote for progressive candidates, but are shocked at the lawlessness.

Because we know voting for republicans doesn’t help. There was this thing called “trying to overthrow the government” on a January 6 that a very famous Republican man tried to make happen. A Democratic lady saved our a$$es.

I will laugh at you every time you say Republicans are the one who can solve crime. No, they make it worse.

DP, but you are comparing apples to oranges with random armed carjackings and January 6th. Both crimes, but not in any other way comparable to each other.

Do you really not realize how easy it is to simply google crime stats from republican controlled cities to show similar or worse crime rates? How craven of you to distort the facts just to promote partisan hate.

Absolute gaslighting. Crime is far, far worse in Democrat cities.

The murder rate in 2022 was noticeably higher in states that voted for Trump in 2020 than in states that voted for Biden in 2020, though: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states

It's almost as if crime increasing is a national trend, and it's not specifically because of any one policy choice made in D.C. that crime is going up here, too.

The murder rate in red states is because of the high crime rates in Democrat controlled cities within those states.
Nice try.

In Louisiana, the rural murder rate is almost the same as the urban murder rate, and significantly higher than the nationwide metro murder rate:

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/after-rise-in-killings-louisianas-rural-parishes-twice-as-deadly-as-u-s-metros-data/article_7568a454-11a6-11ed-86db-b7b123e7d8c0.html

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/d7/dd79a1a0-1fcb-11ed-9f78-536c6abac899/62ffa78d7488d.image.jpg?resize=1010%2C985

Exactly. On a per capita basis, rural red counties have every bit as much violent crime as "Dem cities" do. If you multiplied a rural county of 10,000 to make it the size of a major city you'd have as many homicides and other violent crimes as the "Dem city" does.

The statistics on Demand run cities fully supports that they overwhelmingly have the highest crime rates regardless of how you want to spin it.
Report after report after report verifies this.
Google Dem run cities crime.
Several sources to choose from. Also see FBI crime statistics.
Just please, I can explain it to you, but I cannot comprehend it for you.
This thread alone is representative of the concern about not venturing out in a Democrat run city.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder, most people on this board voted for this state of affairs and will do everything in their power to prevent anyone else from fixing the situation.

I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of DC residents. They almost universally vote for progressive candidates, but are shocked at the lawlessness.

Because we know voting for republicans doesn’t help. There was this thing called “trying to overthrow the government” on a January 6 that a very famous Republican man tried to make happen. A Democratic lady saved our a$$es.

I will laugh at you every time you say Republicans are the one who can solve crime. No, they make it worse.

DP, but you are comparing apples to oranges with random armed carjackings and January 6th. Both crimes, but not in any other way comparable to each other.

Do you really not realize how easy it is to simply google crime stats from republican controlled cities to show similar or worse crime rates? How craven of you to distort the facts just to promote partisan hate.

Absolute gaslighting. Crime is far, far worse in Democrat cities.

The murder rate in 2022 was noticeably higher in states that voted for Trump in 2020 than in states that voted for Biden in 2020, though: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states

It's almost as if crime increasing is a national trend, and it's not specifically because of any one policy choice made in D.C. that crime is going up here, too.

The murder rate in red states is because of the high crime rates in Democrat controlled cities within those states.
Nice try.

In Louisiana, the rural murder rate is almost the same as the urban murder rate, and significantly higher than the nationwide metro murder rate:

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/after-rise-in-killings-louisianas-rural-parishes-twice-as-deadly-as-u-s-metros-data/article_7568a454-11a6-11ed-86db-b7b123e7d8c0.html

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/d7/dd79a1a0-1fcb-11ed-9f78-536c6abac899/62ffa78d7488d.image.jpg?resize=1010%2C985

The Governor of Louisiana is a Democrat.

And the Governor of Maryland (Baltimore) was a Republican. Stooopid partisans. Partisan politics do not accurately correlate with violence. Poverty and barriers to healthy lifestyles do.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder, most people on this board voted for this state of affairs and will do everything in their power to prevent anyone else from fixing the situation.

I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of DC residents. They almost universally vote for progressive candidates, but are shocked at the lawlessness.

Because we know voting for republicans doesn’t help. There was this thing called “trying to overthrow the government” on a January 6 that a very famous Republican man tried to make happen. A Democratic lady saved our a$$es.

I will laugh at you every time you say Republicans are the one who can solve crime. No, they make it worse.

DP, but you are comparing apples to oranges with random armed carjackings and January 6th. Both crimes, but not in any other way comparable to each other.

Do you really not realize how easy it is to simply google crime stats from republican controlled cities to show similar or worse crime rates? How craven of you to distort the facts just to promote partisan hate.

Absolute gaslighting. Crime is far, far worse in Democrat cities.

The murder rate in 2022 was noticeably higher in states that voted for Trump in 2020 than in states that voted for Biden in 2020, though: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states

It's almost as if crime increasing is a national trend, and it's not specifically because of any one policy choice made in D.C. that crime is going up here, too.

The murder rate in red states is because of the high crime rates in Democrat controlled cities within those states.
Nice try.

In Louisiana, the rural murder rate is almost the same as the urban murder rate, and significantly higher than the nationwide metro murder rate:

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/after-rise-in-killings-louisianas-rural-parishes-twice-as-deadly-as-u-s-metros-data/article_7568a454-11a6-11ed-86db-b7b123e7d8c0.html

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/d7/dd79a1a0-1fcb-11ed-9f78-536c6abac899/62ffa78d7488d.image.jpg?resize=1010%2C985

The Governor of Louisiana is a Democrat.

Which is it? We blame the cities, the governor or the rural counties? Oh I see we blame whichever is a democrat!

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The crime rate is tied to demographics. That's the only stat to look at and it is consistent throughout the country.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder, most people on this board voted for this state of affairs and will do everything in their power to prevent anyone else from fixing the situation.

I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of DC residents. They almost universally vote for progressive candidates, but are shocked at the lawlessness.

Because we know voting for republicans doesn’t help. There was this thing called “trying to overthrow the government” on a January 6 that a very famous Republican man tried to make happen. A Democratic lady saved our a$$es.

I will laugh at you every time you say Republicans are the one who can solve crime. No, they make it worse.

DP, but you are comparing apples to oranges with random armed carjackings and January 6th. Both crimes, but not in any other way comparable to each other.

Do you really not realize how easy it is to simply google crime stats from republican controlled cities to show similar or worse crime rates? How craven of you to distort the facts just to promote partisan hate.

Absolute gaslighting. Crime is far, far worse in Democrat cities.

The murder rate in 2022 was noticeably higher in states that voted for Trump in 2020 than in states that voted for Biden in 2020, though: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states

It's almost as if crime increasing is a national trend, and it's not specifically because of any one policy choice made in D.C. that crime is going up here, too.

The murder rate in red states is because of the high crime rates in Democrat controlled cities within those states.
Nice try.

In Louisiana, the rural murder rate is almost the same as the urban murder rate, and significantly higher than the nationwide metro murder rate:

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/after-rise-in-killings-louisianas-rural-parishes-twice-as-deadly-as-u-s-metros-data/article_7568a454-11a6-11ed-86db-b7b123e7d8c0.html

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/d7/dd79a1a0-1fcb-11ed-9f78-536c6abac899/62ffa78d7488d.image.jpg?resize=1010%2C985

Exactly. On a per capita basis, rural red counties have every bit as much violent crime as "Dem cities" do. If you multiplied a rural county of 10,000 to make it the size of a major city you'd have as many homicides and other violent crimes as the "Dem city" does.

The statistics on Demand run cities fully supports that they overwhelmingly have the highest crime rates regardless of how you want to spin it.
Report after report after report verifies this.
Google Dem run cities crime.
Several sources to choose from. Also see FBI crime statistics.
Just please, I can explain it to you, but I cannot comprehend it for you.
This thread alone is representative of the concern about not venturing out in a Democrat run city.

Only if you ignore facts lol.

Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco.

How can that possibly be? Have you not read about how San Fran allows illegal immigrants to roam free and homeless people living everywhere? But then how can Jax not be safer without such challenges? Without a Democratic governor to blame? How can the home of NANCY PELOSI be safer than Republican led Jacksonville?

Maybe this whole game about partisan blame isn’t the true insight into what drives crime?? Maybe, just maybe? Can’t you even bear to consider that for a single millisecond?

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We found that murder rates are, on average, 40% higher in the 25 states Donald Trump won in the last presidential election compared to those that voted for Joe Biden. In addition, murder rates in many of these red states dwarf those in blue states like New York, California, and Massachusetts. And finally, many of the states with the worst murder rates—like Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas—are ones that few would describe as urban. Only 2 of America’s top 100 cities in population are located in these high murder rate states. And not a single one of the top 10 murder states registers in the top 15 for population density.

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I don’t do errands. period.

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Anonymous wrote:We found that murder rates are, on average, 40% higher in the 25 states Donald Trump won in the last presidential election compared to those that voted for Joe Biden. In addition, murder rates in many of these red states dwarf those in blue states like New York, California, and Massachusetts. And finally, many of the states with the worst murder rates—like Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas—are ones that few would describe as urban. Only 2 of America’s top 100 cities in population are located in these high murder rate states. And not a single one of the top 10 murder states registers in the top 15 for population density.

That’s because red states are still prosecuting, blue states aren’t

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder, most people on this board voted for this state of affairs and will do everything in their power to prevent anyone else from fixing the situation.

I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of DC residents. They almost universally vote for progressive candidates, but are shocked at the lawlessness.

Because we know voting for republicans doesn’t help. There was this thing called “trying to overthrow the government” on a January 6 that a very famous Republican man tried to make happen. A Democratic lady saved our a$$es.

I will laugh at you every time you say Republicans are the one who can solve crime. No, they make it worse.

DP, but you are comparing apples to oranges with random armed carjackings and January 6th. Both crimes, but not in any other way comparable to each other.

Do you really not realize how easy it is to simply google crime stats from republican controlled cities to show similar or worse crime rates? How craven of you to distort the facts just to promote partisan hate.

Absolute gaslighting. Crime is far, far worse in Democrat cities.

The murder rate in 2022 was noticeably higher in states that voted for Trump in 2020 than in states that voted for Biden in 2020, though: https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states

It's almost as if crime increasing is a national trend, and it's not specifically because of any one policy choice made in D.C. that crime is going up here, too.

The murder rate in red states is because of the high crime rates in Democrat controlled cities within those states.
Nice try.

In Louisiana, the rural murder rate is almost the same as the urban murder rate, and significantly higher than the nationwide metro murder rate:

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/after-rise-in-killings-louisianas-rural-parishes-twice-as-deadly-as-u-s-metros-data/article_7568a454-11a6-11ed-86db-b7b123e7d8c0.html

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/d7/dd79a1a0-1fcb-11ed-9f78-536c6abac899/62ffa78d7488d.image.jpg?resize=1010%2C985

Exactly. On a per capita basis, rural red counties have every bit as much violent crime as "Dem cities" do. If you multiplied a rural county of 10,000 to make it the size of a major city you'd have as many homicides and other violent crimes as the "Dem city" does.

The statistics on Demand run cities fully supports that they overwhelmingly have the highest crime rates regardless of how you want to spin it.
Report after report after report verifies this.
Google Dem run cities crime.
Several sources to choose from. Also see FBI crime statistics.
Just please, I can explain it to you, but I cannot comprehend it for you.
This thread alone is representative of the concern about not venturing out in a Democrat run city.

Only if you ignore facts lol.

Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco.

How can that possibly be? Have you not read about how San Fran allows illegal immigrants to roam free and homeless people living everywhere? But then how can Jax not be safer without such challenges? Without a Democratic governor to blame? How can the home of NANCY PELOSI be safer than Republican led Jacksonville?

Maybe this whole game about partisan blame isn’t the true insight into what drives crime?? Maybe, just maybe? Can’t you even bear to consider that for a single millisecond?

Jacksonville is the only exception and that means you have read the other statistics that documents Dem run cities have by far the highest crime rates.
Laughable cherry picking.