Mythical Western HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Aside from building a new HS ten years from now, it's either expand Centreville HS or do a boundary adjustment to send some parts to Westfield/Robinson/Fairfax/Woodson. That whole area is a mess with convoluted boundaries. The hard part is convincing the Robinson/Woodson community to accept new apartments into their boundaries. McLaughlin would fight that in the name of community schools.

The Centreville HS expansion has begun. They are working on potential site layouts and have started meeting with community stakeholders. Someone shared notes from the design committee mtg on this thread. Why are ppl acting as if it is optional/ not happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Aside from building a new HS ten years from now, it's either expand Centreville HS or do a boundary adjustment to send some parts to Westfield/Robinson/Fairfax/Woodson. That whole area is a mess with convoluted boundaries. The hard part is convincing the Robinson/Woodson community to accept new apartments into their boundaries. McLaughlin would fight that in the name of community schools.

The Centreville HS expansion has begun. They are working on potential site layouts and have started meeting with community stakeholders. Someone shared notes from the design committee mtg on this thread. Why are ppl acting as if it is optional/ not happening?

Because plans can still be adjusted, or at least people can let the School Board know they don't favor turning Centreville into a factory with 3000 kids in part to placate rich people in Great Falls who want to kill a new western HS so they can stay at Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no rational reason why parents in McLean should have any input or say in a new Western high school and its boundaries. Nowhere near where they live.

Langley High is in McLean, but the Langley parents who don't want to see a new high school built because they think it might result in their getting moved to Herndon live in Great Falls, not McLean, and they live closer to Herndon than they do to Langley.

See https://gfca.org/Featured-News/7784012 (Great Falls Citizens Association identifying as one of four factors causing "concern" about potential future Langley boundary changes "[i]mpact of a potential new high school in Herndon").

Langley parents who live in McLean could care less, as this wouldn't affect them, and the McLean parents care more about getting an overdue addition than the boundaries of a new western HS far from their homes.

Langley parents who live in McLean cares because the original plan floated by liberals was to move Great Falls kids to Herndon AND to move high density Tysons kids to Langley to provide a relief to McLean high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no rational reason why parents in McLean should have any input or say in a new Western high school and its boundaries. Nowhere near where they live.

I have news for you: the only people obsessed with McLean and Langley are those whose kids go to other schools. No one at McLean or Langley is thinking about the Mythical Western HS in any way, shape, or form. Just those of you who keep projecting onto these communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no rational reason why parents in McLean should have any input or say in a new Western high school and its boundaries. Nowhere near where they live.

Langley High is in McLean, but the Langley parents who don't want to see a new high school built because they think it might result in their getting moved to Herndon live in Great Falls, not McLean, and they live closer to Herndon than they do to Langley.

See https://gfca.org/Featured-News/7784012 (Great Falls Citizens Association identifying as one of four factors causing "concern" about potential future Langley boundary changes "[i]mpact of a potential new high school in Herndon").

Langley parents who live in McLean could care less, as this wouldn't affect them, and the McLean parents care more about getting an overdue addition than the boundaries of a new western HS far from their homes.

DP. The bolded is correct. Again, the only people who keep bringing McLean and Langley into the discussion of this Mythical Western HS are those who would actually be affected by this hypothetical school. McLean and Langley would not be affected, even if it were to be built.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Aside from building a new HS ten years from now, it's either expand Centreville HS or do a boundary adjustment to send some parts to Westfield/Robinson/Fairfax/Woodson. That whole area is a mess with convoluted boundaries. The hard part is convincing the Robinson/Woodson community to accept new apartments into their boundaries. McLaughlin would fight that in the name of community schools.

The Centreville HS expansion has begun. They are working on potential site layouts and have started meeting with community stakeholders. Someone shared notes from the design committee mtg on this thread. Why are ppl acting as if it is optional/ not happening?

Because plans can still be adjusted, or at least people can let the School Board know they don't favor turning Centreville into a factory with 3000 kids in part to placate rich people in Great Falls who want to kill a new western HS so they can stay at Langley.

I'll just keep repeating this, even though I know it's falling on deaf ears. No one in GF wants to "kill" any new HS. It's only people like you who actually think a far western HS would somehow affect boundaries in McLean. It won't. The fact of the matter is that FCPS has no intention of actually building this HS, but you continue to blame people in McLean/GF who have nothing to do with FCPS planning. Take it up with FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Aside from building a new HS ten years from now, it's either expand Centreville HS or do a boundary adjustment to send some parts to Westfield/Robinson/Fairfax/Woodson. That whole area is a mess with convoluted boundaries. The hard part is convincing the Robinson/Woodson community to accept new apartments into their boundaries. McLaughlin would fight that in the name of community schools.

The Centreville HS expansion has begun. They are working on potential site layouts and have started meeting with community stakeholders. Someone shared notes from the design committee mtg on this thread. Why are ppl acting as if it is optional/ not happening?

Because plans can still be adjusted, or at least people can let the School Board know they don't favor turning Centreville into a factory with 3000 kids in part to placate rich people in Great Falls who want to kill a new western HS so they can stay at Langley.

I'll just keep repeating this, even though I know it's falling on deaf ears. No one in GF wants to "kill" any new HS. It's only people like you who actually think a far western HS would somehow affect boundaries in McLean. It won't. The fact of the matter is that FCPS has no intention of actually building this HS, but you continue to blame people in McLean/GF who have nothing to do with FCPS planning. Take it up with FCPS.

A far western high school could affect boundaries in McLean if (1) the new western high school created additional space in Herndon for students in Great Falls who live far closer to Herndon than to Langley to be reassigned to Herndon; (2) the School Board continues to refuse to add permanent seats to overcrowded McLean; and (3) moving students from Langley to Herndon would allow additional McLean students to move to Langley.

This is just a fact. It's what Janie Strauss told Great Falls parents back in 2018, which upset them enough that they created "One Great Falls" to oppose any future movement of kids out of Langley; it's why the Great Falls Citizens Association identified a new western high schools as one of the reasons for its "concerns" that Langley's boundaries might be changed; and it's why Elaine Tholen was dismissive of the idea of a new western HS when the School Board discussed the last CIP in early 2022. Those people would rather see other schools overcrowded, or expanded to 3000 kids, than see a new school built that might increase their risk of getting moved out of Langley to a closer school.

Whether the new high school gets built, or remains "mythical," is a different question. It's very odd that FCPS continues to identify a new western high school in every year's Capital Improvement Program, yet takes other actions that may reduce the need for a new school. At some point FCPS really needs to put up (move forward with the school) or shut up (eliminate any reference to a new high school from the CIP). It doesn't exactly build trust with the community to keep promising the new school but never doing anything concrete to make it happen.

[Anonymous]

A western HS would reasonably affect more than just the far western schools. The obvious boundaries to be affected by the western site are Chantilly, Centreville, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon, and Langley.

On top of those, Oakton, Madison, Woodson, and Fairfax would have to be in the conversation as their boundaries are generally overreaching to the west in ways that don't make sense naturally.

[Anonymous]

They aren’t going to build it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t going to build it.

Then every reference to the new HS should be removed from the 2024-28 CIP before it is finalized in early February.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t going to build it.

Then every reference to the new HS should be removed from the 2024-28 CIP before it is finalized in early February.

DP. Then contact them to make sure they do that. No one here can help you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t going to build it.

This. End of story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t going to build it.

Then every reference to the new HS should be removed from the 2024-28 CIP before it is finalized in early February.

DP. Then contact them to make sure they do that. No one here can help you.

Said like someone who already got what they want and thinks everyone else should just eat cake.

If they were responsive to questions or comments the status of the western HS wouldn’t be so unclear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t going to build it.

This. End of story.

Maybe not. There is a lot of new housing going up and contemplated in Herndon, Reston, and Tysons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t going to build it.

Then every reference to the new HS should be removed from the 2024-28 CIP before it is finalized in early February.

DP. Then contact them to make sure they do that. No one here can help you.

Said like someone who already got what they want and thinks everyone else should just eat cake.

If they were responsive to questions or comments the status of the western HS wouldn’t be so unclear.

I haven't "gotten what I wanted" (how on earth would you know what that even looks like?). I simply have common sense and have realized that after YEARS of talking about this hypothetical HS, but no action, it is not going to happen. Why do you keep tilting at windmills?