Asian kindergarten students more likely to display advanced math, science skills, new study finds

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Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand the shock of this study. I am Indian (born here, though.) Asians generally hold education in highest importance. Since I was a kid, I HAD to get the best grades. My brother was told he HAD to be a doctor since he was like 6 (became a PhD, not a medical doc to my dad’s dismay lol…) I am most impressed when my Vietnamese nail ladies raising kids as single moms (with a family support system maybe) have their kids in Georgetown, Mason, etc studying engineering, law etc. despite their own hardships. So it’s not even about income. It’s about it being a very high priority from the get go.

This is also why it’s much harder to get into AAP at elementary schools that are heavily Asian dominated. We DO encourage our kids more on math, science, and school overall than other ethnic groups. We DO have higher test scores and grades, because we do teach our kids a lot from early on. White people and several other groups hold sports in a much highest regard than Asians do.

There is nothing offensive or shocking here. The stereotypes are kind of true. I live it. But on the other hand, because I was born here, I like my child to be well rounded and not ONLY education focused. He doesn’t need to do 9th grade math in 5th grade but Advanced math or AAP is great…

There are people who want to ignore the impact of culture on achievement and attribute it all to SES. SES is an important factor, yes, but so is culture.

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Looks like they will have to conduct studies on 1year olds to see if there are such differences.

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

It's probably not a problem for people hanging out in an AAP forum.

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Anonymous wrote:What to do? What to do???

It's easy enroll them at Cuire at age 7. Spend $20k over the next eight years and then claim they're super gifted.

You need to be a functional family (2 parents, college educated, good jobs, priortizing education, frugal, good marriage, know how to cook veggies, know how to teach Math, fluent in English, no additction/abuse/adultry) to be able to spend 20K. What to do? What to do??

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

It's probably not a problem for people hanging out in an AAP forum.

Then they should not be saying dumb things like ' I thought all public schools taught everything students needed so I don't have to pay any attention.'

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

It's probably not a problem for people hanging out in an AAP forum.

Then they should not be saying dumb things like ' I thought all public schools taught everything students needed so I don't have to pay any attention.'

NP. When DH and I went to grade school (different states, both public school districts), school did teach us everything we needed to learn.

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

It's probably not a problem for people hanging out in an AAP forum.

Then they should not be saying dumb things like ' I thought all public schools taught everything students needed so I don't have to pay any attention.'

NP. When DH and I went to grade school (different states, both public school districts), school did teach us everything we needed to learn.

Not for most distracts especially in the last 10-15 years. This is why the competition to get into magnet schools are intense.

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Anonymous wrote:

PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

It's probably not a problem for people hanging out in an AAP forum.

Then they should not be saying dumb things like ' I thought all public schools taught everything students needed so I don't have to pay any attention.'

NP. When DH and I went to grade school (different states, both public school districts), school did teach us everything we needed to learn.

Not for most distracts especially in the last 10-15 years. This is why the competition to get into magnet schools are intense.

+1. My husband doesn't understand this- I want to put our kids in private but he thinks I'm crazy, that the public schools are just fine... but it's clear to me times have changed.

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

It's probably not a problem for people hanging out in an AAP forum.

Then they should not be saying dumb things like ' I thought all public schools taught everything students needed so I don't have to pay any attention.'

NP. When DH and I went to grade school (different states, both public school districts), school did teach us everything we needed to learn.

I went to ES in the 70's and 80's, school did not teach us everything, my brother and I had tutors and did work outside of school. We were in an UMC community, so yeah, enrichment and the like is nothing new. It has been happening for a long, long time.

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Anonymous wrote:What to do? What to do???

It's easy enroll them at Cuire at age 7. Spend $20k over the next eight years and then claim they're super gifted.

You need to be a functional family (2 parents, college educated, good jobs, priortizing education, frugal, good marriage, know how to cook veggies, know how to teach Math, fluent in English, no additction/abuse/adultry) to be able to spend 20K. What to do? What to do??

The $20k is the key part the rest, not so much, but if it makes you feel better then sure.

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

It's probably not a problem for people hanging out in an AAP forum.

Then they should not be saying dumb things like ' I thought all public schools taught everything students needed so I don't have to pay any attention.'

NP. When DH and I went to grade school (different states, both public school districts), school did teach us everything we needed to learn.

I went to ES in the 70's and 80's, school did not teach us everything, my brother and I had tutors and did work outside of school. We were in an UMC community, so yeah, enrichment and the like is nothing new. It has been happening for a long, long time.

I never had enrichment as a kid, but when I started taking college classes at 15 my parents were supportive.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What to do? What to do???

It's easy enroll them at Cuire at age 7. Spend $20k over the next eight years and then claim they're super gifted.

You need to be a functional family (2 parents, college educated, good jobs, priortizing education, frugal, good marriage, know how to cook veggies, know how to teach Math, fluent in English, no additction/abuse/adultry) to be able to spend 20K. What to do? What to do??

The $20k is the key part the rest, not so much, but if it makes you feel better then sure.

Some school systems offer it for free. Ours does and we use it.

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PP here. I stated this poorly. The immigrant was a Hispanic immigrant, but I've seen this attitude with both AA and Hispanics. They believe that school should teach them everything they need to know. My point was that Asians don't believe this and actively teach and read to their kids outside of school.

Perhaps you are stating it poorly again. Was the person aghast at the idea of teaching extra because it's too much, or because they felt the school WOULD teach everything they needed to know?

Yes! WOULD teach not SHOULD teach. That’s the “attitude.” I wish more understood it’s not about us being lazy or neglectful parents.

Pay more attention to educating your children like other parents.

It's probably not a problem for people hanging out in an AAP forum.

Then they should not be saying dumb things like ' I thought all public schools taught everything students needed so I don't have to pay any attention.'

NP. When DH and I went to grade school (different states, both public school districts), school did teach us everything we needed to learn.

Good jobs back then didn’t require as much education and employers were more willing to train on the job.