Pandemic Babies and Speech

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg stop the craziness. Parents have a right to send their kids to a place that encourages development. We know for a fact based on data that masks can inhibit speech development, and have for thousands of toddlers. If some parents are more concerned about COVID, then sure you have a right to send your kids to a place that masks. But there is zero - ZERO - evidence that cloth masks prevent COVID. You don’t get to mandate away other parents’ rights without citing concrete scientific data and studies. You mandate folks are losing on this issue and your unscientific grasp on society is loosening, causing you to have a freaking panic attack, I guess. Get help.

You're a moron and I hope you do not have children under your custody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg stop the craziness. Parents have a right to send their kids to a place that encourages development. We know for a fact based on data that masks can inhibit speech development, and have for thousands of toddlers. If some parents are more concerned about COVID, then sure you have a right to send your kids to a place that masks. But there is zero - ZERO - evidence that cloth masks prevent COVID. You don’t get to mandate away other parents’ rights without citing concrete scientific data and studies. You mandate folks are losing on this issue and your unscientific grasp on society is loosening, causing you to have a freaking panic attack, I guess. Get help.

You're a moron and I hope you do not have children under your custody.

Perhaps provide PP with your best evidence of how masks prevent viral spread. - DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It absolutely has to do with masking in infant rooms in daycare! How could it not? Our babies spent 8 hours a day not seeing mouths form words or expressions.

Yes, my toddler is being evaluated for speech delays. I was told he’d be delayed and he is.

+1. Babies/toddlers imitate the people around them. How can they imitate speech if they can't see someone's lips moving?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg stop the craziness. Parents have a right to send their kids to a place that encourages development. We know for a fact based on data that masks can inhibit speech development, and have for thousands of toddlers. If some parents are more concerned about COVID, then sure you have a right to send your kids to a place that masks. But there is zero - ZERO - evidence that cloth masks prevent COVID. You don’t get to mandate away other parents’ rights without citing concrete scientific data and studies. You mandate folks are losing on this issue and your unscientific grasp on society is loosening, causing you to have a freaking panic attack, I guess. Get help.

You're a moron and I hope you do not have children under your custody.

Perhaps provide PP with your best evidence of how masks prevent viral spread. - DP

See that’s not how this works. YOU make the claim. YOU provide the evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg stop the craziness. Parents have a right to send their kids to a place that encourages development. We know for a fact based on data that masks can inhibit speech development, and have for thousands of toddlers. If some parents are more concerned about COVID, then sure you have a right to send your kids to a place that masks. But there is zero - ZERO - evidence that cloth masks prevent COVID. You don’t get to mandate away other parents’ rights without citing concrete scientific data and studies. You mandate folks are losing on this issue and your unscientific grasp on society is loosening, causing you to have a freaking panic attack, I guess. Get help.

You're a moron and I hope you do not have children under your custody.

Perhaps provide PP with your best evidence of how masks prevent viral spread. - DP

Sneeze with a mask on and then without. Which way spreads more virus? Does this really need to be explained?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg stop the craziness. Parents have a right to send their kids to a place that encourages development. We know for a fact based on data that masks can inhibit speech development, and have for thousands of toddlers. If some parents are more concerned about COVID, then sure you have a right to send your kids to a place that masks. But there is zero - ZERO - evidence that cloth masks prevent COVID. You don’t get to mandate away other parents’ rights without citing concrete scientific data and studies. You mandate folks are losing on this issue and your unscientific grasp on society is loosening, causing you to have a freaking panic attack, I guess. Get help.

You're a moron and I hope you do not have children under your custody.

Perhaps provide PP with your best evidence of how masks prevent viral spread. - DP

See that’s not how this works. YOU make the claim. YOU provide the evidence.

Lol you’re proving PP’s point. No, people don’t have to “prove” something that doesn’t exist. If you want to mandate something, the burden of proof is on you.

And it’s clear you don’t have it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg stop the craziness. Parents have a right to send their kids to a place that encourages development. We know for a fact based on data that masks can inhibit speech development, and have for thousands of toddlers. If some parents are more concerned about COVID, then sure you have a right to send your kids to a place that masks. But there is zero - ZERO - evidence that cloth masks prevent COVID. You don’t get to mandate away other parents’ rights without citing concrete scientific data and studies. You mandate folks are losing on this issue and your unscientific grasp on society is loosening, causing you to have a freaking panic attack, I guess. Get help.

You're a moron and I hope you do not have children under your custody.

Perhaps provide PP with your best evidence of how masks prevent viral spread. - DP

See that’s not how this works. YOU make the claim. YOU provide the evidence.

Lol you’re proving PP’s point. No, people don’t have to “prove” something that doesn’t exist. If you want to mandate something, the burden of proof is on you.

And it’s clear you don’t have it.

I wish this forum had usernames so I could block you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg stop the craziness. Parents have a right to send their kids to a place that encourages development. We know for a fact based on data that masks can inhibit speech development, and have for thousands of toddlers. If some parents are more concerned about COVID, then sure you have a right to send your kids to a place that masks. But there is zero - ZERO - evidence that cloth masks prevent COVID. You don’t get to mandate away other parents’ rights without citing concrete scientific data and studies. You mandate folks are losing on this issue and your unscientific grasp on society is loosening, causing you to have a freaking panic attack, I guess. Get help.

What you're saying is not accurate. Yes, n95 is better but we do know even cloth masks have helped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It absolutely has to do with masking in infant rooms in daycare! How could it not? Our babies spent 8 hours a day not seeing mouths form words or expressions.

Yes, my toddler is being evaluated for speech delays. I was told he’d be delayed and he is.

+1. Babies/toddlers imitate the people around them. How can they imitate speech if they can't see someone's lips moving?

Then stay home and talk to your baby. It really is that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It absolutely has to do with masking in infant rooms in daycare! How could it not? Our babies spent 8 hours a day not seeing mouths form words or expressions.

Yes, my toddler is being evaluated for speech delays. I was told he’d be delayed and he is.

+1. Babies/toddlers imitate the people around them. How can they imitate speech if they can't see someone's lips moving?

Why isn’t every single baby currently in daycare delayed for speech then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It absolutely has to do with masking in infant rooms in daycare! How could it not? Our babies spent 8 hours a day not seeing mouths form words or expressions.

Yes, my toddler is being evaluated for speech delays. I was told he’d be delayed and he is.

+1. Babies/toddlers imitate the people around them. How can they imitate speech if they can't see someone's lips moving?

Why isn’t every single baby currently in daycare delayed for speech then?

This thread is literally going in circles. If the threshold for negative effects is that it has to negatively affect 100% of people, then by that logic we should never have cared about covid at all because the vast majority of people survive it. Right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It absolutely has to do with masking in infant rooms in daycare! How could it not? Our babies spent 8 hours a day not seeing mouths form words or expressions.

Yes, my toddler is being evaluated for speech delays. I was told he’d be delayed and he is.

+1. Babies/toddlers imitate the people around them. How can they imitate speech if they can't see someone's lips moving?

Why isn’t every single baby currently in daycare delayed for speech then?

This thread is literally going in circles. If the threshold for negative effects is that it has to negatively affect 100% of people, then by that logic we should never have cared about covid at all because the vast majority of people survive it. Right?

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

I don’t really think it’s fair to declare that this has nothing to do with covid. We just don’t know. Kids are isolated and constantly around masked people. Of course this could result in speech delay. To suggest otherwise is just ignoring one possible cause.

+1 why do people make these proclamations about topics they know nothing about? Plenty of anecdotal evidence of an uptick in speech delays. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg.

There is a huge body of research that kids born during times of social disruption often experience delays; why a global pandemic should be different is beyond me. The mask thing makes no sense as an explanation, because children born during the pandemic are all babies or young toddlers, and aren't in school (so no masked teachers) and presumably spend most, or at least plenty, of their time at home with their families, who are not masked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

I don’t really think it’s fair to declare that this has nothing to do with covid. We just don’t know. Kids are isolated and constantly around masked people. Of course this could result in speech delay. To suggest otherwise is just ignoring one possible cause.

+1 why do people make these proclamations about topics they know nothing about? Plenty of anecdotal evidence of an uptick in speech delays. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg.

There is a huge body of research that kids born during times of social disruption often experience delays; why a global pandemic should be different is beyond me. The mask thing makes no sense as an explanation, because children born during the pandemic are all babies or young toddlers, and aren't in school (so no masked teachers) and presumably spend most, or at least plenty, of their time at home with their families, who are not masked.

Right. Melanie is just a right-wing anti-masker. Kids are just the excuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

I don’t really think it’s fair to declare that this has nothing to do with covid. We just don’t know. Kids are isolated and constantly around masked people. Of course this could result in speech delay. To suggest otherwise is just ignoring one possible cause.

+1 why do people make these proclamations about topics they know nothing about? Plenty of anecdotal evidence of an uptick in speech delays. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg.

There is a huge body of research that kids born during times of social disruption often experience delays; why a global pandemic should be different is beyond me. The mask thing makes no sense as an explanation, because children born during the pandemic are all babies or young toddlers, and aren't in school (so no masked teachers) and presumably spend most, or at least plenty, of their time at home with their families, who are not masked.

NP — do you have any good articles/books summarizing or discussing that research? I did not actually know that and would be very interested to learn more.