Pandemic Babies and Speech

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Does anyone here believe that mask wearing by a significant caregiver does not delay the speech development of babies and toddlers?

Me.

And how would you say, do babies and toddlers learn to speak?

From people around them. Do you have your children in daycare 24/7?

If mom works 8 hours, has an hour lunch and an hour commute, her kid is in childcare the bulk of their waking hours. Do the math.

Can we at least replace "mom" with "parent" in this sentence? Thanks for keeping casual sexism out of this.

FWIW, many dual parent households split time a bit to reduce time in childcare. Others minimize lunch break if their job allows.

Generally the kids with the least resources, those most likely to be in care for 10 hours a day and those who are most likely to fall behind and never catch up, are in single mom households.

So I will see your casual sexism and raise you a class guilt trip.

[Anonymous]

Yeah if the neuroticism and anxiety levels don’t subside by the time my kid is ready for preschool I’m moving. Not going to subject an innocent soul to the anxiety and neurotic disorders of virtue signalers and type a rule followers

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Anonymous wrote:Oh that’s right DC is the only state in the country that offers free universal Pre-K and paid leave to all residents.

You like the benefits of a progressive liberal leadership but not when they use that leadership to protect community health.

Except community health is NOT protected.
Nice try, PP.

Masking stops transmission. Should we all be wandering around with no masks everywhere? Doctors and nurses included?

Sweden doesn't mask kids and has seen 0 pediatric deaths from school acquired covid infections

Asking babies to mask for 85 year old grandpa is highly dubious, at best.

+1. Unproven. Grandpa has access to 3 doses of vaccine. He also has a date with Omicron and he’s not getting any younger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah if the neuroticism and anxiety levels don’t subside by the time my kid is ready for preschool I’m moving. Not going to subject an innocent soul to the anxiety and neurotic disorders of virtue signalers and type a rule followers

To be fair, following the rules has led to degrees from Ivy League institutions, cushy salaries and now the opportunity to work remotely. They eventually have to learn that following the rules just delays the inevitable infection until they are older and farther out from their vaccine doses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Oh that’s right DC is the only state in the country that offers free universal Pre-K and paid leave to all residents.

You like the benefits of a progressive liberal leadership but not when they use that leadership to protect community health.

Except community health is NOT protected.
Nice try, PP.

To be fair, we did have focused protection for the wealthy until Omicron.

+1. Being “covid cautious” is and always has been a luxury not enjoyed by the vast majority of the country. Probably why the normal people are ready for things like masks in daycare to end. It’s not really doing anything anymore except possibly harm to some kids. Now the wealthy are freaking out because omicron is coming for them.

It is entertaining. I say this as a currently infected privileged person who could stay home any time cases were high and transfer my risk onto others. To hear complaints from those who “did everything right” and avoided a scary infection pre-vaccine complain about a cold after being vaxxed and boosted is so out of touch. All of it will cost elections.

I agree with this. I come from a heavy Democrat blue collar middle class family - none of whom got to “work from home” - and Nov 2022 is going to be a big wake-up call for these COVID crazed politicians. If things haven’t turned around by then, they will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah if the neuroticism and anxiety levels don’t subside by the time my kid is ready for preschool I’m moving. Not going to subject an innocent soul to the anxiety and neurotic disorders of virtue signalers and type a rule followers

oh, Jesus, leave now. Please, drama queen, leave now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Does anyone here believe that mask wearing by a significant caregiver does not delay the speech development of babies and toddlers?

Me.

And how would you say, do babies and toddlers learn to speak?

From people around them. Do you have your children in daycare 24/7?

If mom works 8 hours, has an hour lunch and an hour commute, her kid is in childcare the bulk of their waking hours. Do the math.

Can we at least replace "mom" with "parent" in this sentence? Thanks for keeping casual sexism out of this.

FWIW, many dual parent households split time a bit to reduce time in childcare. Others minimize lunch break if their job allows.

Generally the kids with the least resources, those most likely to be in care for 10 hours a day and those who are most likely to fall behind and never catch up, are in single mom households.

So I will see your casual sexism and raise you a class guilt trip.

Stop victimizing single mothers for your talking points. You are exhausting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah if the neuroticism and anxiety levels don’t subside by the time my kid is ready for preschool I’m moving. Not going to subject an innocent soul to the anxiety and neurotic disorders of virtue signalers and type a rule followers

oh, Jesus, leave now. Please, drama queen, leave now.

You leave. Or start to follow the science. - NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Does anyone here believe that mask wearing by a significant caregiver does not delay the speech development of babies and toddlers?

Me.

And how would you say, do babies and toddlers learn to speak?

From people around them. Do you have your children in daycare 24/7?

If mom works 8 hours, has an hour lunch and an hour commute, her kid is in childcare the bulk of their waking hours. Do the math.

Can we at least replace "mom" with "parent" in this sentence? Thanks for keeping casual sexism out of this.

FWIW, many dual parent households split time a bit to reduce time in childcare. Others minimize lunch break if their job allows.

Generally the kids with the least resources, those most likely to be in care for 10 hours a day and those who are most likely to fall behind and never catch up, are in single mom households.

So I will see your casual sexism and raise you a class guilt trip.

Stop victimizing single mothers for your talking points. You are exhausting.

You are embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah if the neuroticism and anxiety levels don’t subside by the time my kid is ready for preschool I’m moving. Not going to subject an innocent soul to the anxiety and neurotic disorders of virtue signalers and type a rule followers

oh, Jesus, leave now. Please, drama queen, leave now.

You leave. Or start to follow the science. - NP

This is where I’m at. There is absolutely no scientific data to back up these irrational beyond-neurotic moms’ fears and I’m not sacrificing my child - or moving - to qualm your middle-aged mental illness. Therapy exists for a reason, people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah if the neuroticism and anxiety levels don’t subside by the time my kid is ready for preschool I’m moving. Not going to subject an innocent soul to the anxiety and neurotic disorders of virtue signalers and type a rule followers

oh, Jesus, leave now. Please, drama queen, leave now.

Seriously who wants your stank attitude?

[Anonymous]

My 19 month old is speech delayed even though he doesn't go to daycare or have caregivers wearing a mask. So it's not so simple

[Anonymous]

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The COVID hysteria should give you pause if you have young kids. My husband and I are starting to have real conversations about whether we want our children raised in this kind of environment.


+1. Waiting to see if the masks disappear by the Spring. If the masks come back in Fall 2023, we are moving. Don’t want to move, so hoping the hysteria dies after Omicron sweeps through.


Same. I will cut bait before my oldest starts kindergarten. I can’t live with the hysteria and overprecautions

Same here. Enough is enough already.


Fall 2023 is two years away. Why not just leave now?
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Sorry it wad a typo. Meant to say Fall of 2022. I do think the tide is turning. We used to hear “My mask protects you, your mask protects me” which was training wheels for “My vax protects you, your vax protects me.” Now the experts are starting to pivot, admitting there was never any evidence for cloth masks and that an N95 would provide one way protection. The vax passports are failing miserably to reduce transmission -NYC had 40k cases in a day. More experts admitting that severe disease was the endpoint for the vax all along.

Omicron is the perfect off ramp for the hysteria. Deaths and hospitalizations are low - they are even acknowledging the from/with Covid debacle. The vaccine is preventing severe disease. Boosters available in the elderly and immunocompromised. Lots of hybrid immunity in the population. Next step is to make therapeutics more accessible and get vaccines out to the world. Goodbye to masks and lockdowns.

Hospitalizations are not low, they are at highest rate in the pandemic. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/01/10/world/omicron-covid-testing-vaccines
Just saying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 19 month old is speech delayed even though he doesn't go to daycare or have caregivers wearing a mask. So it's not so simple

According to the posters here the only reason for speech delays in small kids is masks.

[Anonymous]

My May 2020 baby was home with me until age 15 months, at which point he started daycare. He puts several words together--like 4 or 5 at a time--pretty often. He also has good expressive language--knows lots of vocab words, says the names of items in books, etc. His language has actually improved since starting daycare. His pronunciation of certain consonants is pretty bad/nonexistent, but I have no idea if this is because of being around masked caregivers. I think the caregivers in masks and toddlers in masks is cruel and stupid at this point, but I have been pleasantly relieved that my child's speech seems to be developing well.