Writing no phone use into a nanny contract

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We want to make it clear upfront that we will not accept any phone use when out baby is awake. We plan to put it in our ad and mention it during interviews. As suggested here, we plan to give our new nanny a new Apple Watch for emergencies. We are sure of our decision so no need to debate.

My question is how to include no phone use in a contract? Just state agreed to expectations or under cause for dismissal? Or after the ad, the interview and our reminding nanny, is it necessary to put into the contract at all?

No phone use would also mean that you cannot call her, no calling 911, if necessary, etc. This is a ridiculous and draconian, not to mention stupid rule.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No nanny in her right mind would accept that condition.

Get used to it, PP. What OP is talking about is the future. Like nanny cams, get over it or get out.

Yessss to this. My ex nanny constantly Skyped her family abroad and her friends. Told me she was giving my then 5 month old social hour. Very inappropriate

What should she have been doing with your 5 month old instead?

Def not skyping her relatives.
Plenty of ways to engage a 5 month old. I'm off 3 days a week and managed it just fine without the TV on and constantly scrolling on my phone.
Not for everyone but I pretty much filled her day with age appropriate activities. Reading, fine gross motor, cognitive. There is a lot if you bother to research.
And don't bother coming at me for wanting to engage with my child and yes I'm able to do this the whole day.

I agree to reasonable phone use. That means I can call my relatives (not Skype or FaceTime) while watching my charges at the park. I can also manage the family calendar, order supplies and look up camps while at the park.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No nanny in her right mind would accept that condition.

Get used to it, PP. What OP is talking about is the future. Like nanny cams, get over it or get out.

Yessss to this. My ex nanny constantly Skyped her family abroad and her friends. Told me she was giving my then 5 month old social hour. Very inappropriate

What should she have been doing with your 5 month old instead?

Def not skyping her relatives.
Plenty of ways to engage a 5 month old. I'm off 3 days a week and managed it just fine without the TV on and constantly scrolling on my phone.
Not for everyone but I pretty much filled her day with age appropriate activities. Reading, fine gross motor, cognitive. There is a lot if you bother to research.
And don't bother coming at me for wanting to engage with my child and yes I'm able to do this the whole day.

Would you be able to do this 7 days? Everyone needs a break and even a five month old needs quiet time to think. Would you want someone really engaged with you every waking moment? I wouldn't!

[Anonymous]

I have not read the entire thread but the non stop phone use is a problem. I'd had workers facetime/skype family members for hours. I've had them stream (loud) religious camp meetings for hours. I've had workers not put down their phone when I've tried to talk to them. They simply keep streaming their movies or their facetime/skype with family members and ignore me (the boss).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No nanny in her right mind would accept that condition.

Get used to it, PP. What OP is talking about is the future. Like nanny cams, get over it or get out.

Yessss to this. My ex nanny constantly Skyped her family abroad and her friends. Told me she was giving my then 5 month old social hour. Very inappropriate

People really don't understand how common this is. The child under care is subject to neglect due to the hours of streaming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We want to make it clear upfront that we will not accept any phone use when out baby is awake. We plan to put it in our ad and mention it during interviews. As suggested here, we plan to give our new nanny a new Apple Watch for emergencies. We are sure of our decision so no need to debate.

My question is how to include no phone use in a contract? Just state agreed to expectations or under cause for dismissal? Or after the ad, the interview and our reminding nanny, is it necessary to put into the contract at all?

Do you look at your phone or browse the internet at all during your working hours? This is a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:And what a pot was stirred! It’s scary how addicted some of you are to your phones. It’s unhealthy and this thread proved it.

+ 1. And why parents choose daycare. Daycare workers aren’t allowed on their phones and they earn minimum wage.

This and other reasons why we choose preschool as soon as possible. At least somebody was watching.

I see the conveniences of having a nanny. The kids can sleep in. The parent doesn't have to get them ready for school, or take them, or worry about a sick day. However, a high paid babysitter isn't in the best interest of the child. Many good preschools not only socialize the children, but give them a head start on academics. A lot of research proves they have a higher success rate.

[phone]. I've seen this firsthand with my two children. One that started at 4 months and one that didn't really start until 1 year because of covid and the differences. Also, i don't see many kids with a 1-1 nanny that are as social and well adjusted as others. Kids are like puppies, they learn best from their pack.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And what a pot was stirred! It’s scary how addicted some of you are to your phones. It’s unhealthy and this thread proved it.

+ 1. And why parents choose daycare. Daycare workers aren’t allowed on their phones and they earn minimum wage.

This and other reasons why we choose preschool as soon as possible. At least somebody was watching.

I see the conveniences of having a nanny. The kids can sleep in. The parent doesn't have to get them ready for school, or take them, or worry about a sick day. However, a high paid babysitter isn't in the best interest of the child. Many good preschools not only socialize the children, but give them a head start on academics. A lot of research proves they have a higher success rate.

[phone]. I've seen this firsthand with my two children. One that started at 4 months and one that didn't really start until 1 year because of covid and the differences. Also, i don't see many kids with a 1-1 nanny that are as social and well adjusted as others. Kids are like puppies, they learn best from their pack.

Then you haven’t known children with good nannies…

[Anonymous]

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Not nearly as much damage as a phone addicted nanny who should be providing the child with stimulating interactions during the earliest and most critical years of brain development.

It's always the moms who don't take care of their own children who are convinced every waking minute of a toddler should be filled with 'stimulating interactions' and love phrases like 'critical years of brain development.'.

Omg so true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And what a pot was stirred! It’s scary how addicted some of you are to your phones. It’s unhealthy and this thread proved it.

+ 1. And why parents choose daycare. Daycare workers aren’t allowed on their phones and they earn minimum wage.

This and other reasons why we choose preschool as soon as possible. At least somebody was watching.

I see the conveniences of having a nanny. The kids can sleep in. The parent doesn't have to get them ready for school, or take them, or worry about a sick day. However, a high paid babysitter isn't in the best interest of the child. Many good preschools not only socialize the children, but give them a head start on academics. A lot of research proves they have a higher success rate.

[phone]. I've seen this firsthand with my two children. One that started at 4 months and one that didn't really start until 1 year because of covid and the differences. Also, i don't see many kids with a 1-1 nanny that are as social and well adjusted as others. Kids are like puppies, they learn best from their pack.

Then you haven’t known children with good nannies…

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

The type of nanny who would agree to this is a desperate nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The type of nanny who would agree to this is a desperate nanny.

Totally disagree. She would be a professional

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The type of nanny who would agree to this is a desperate nanny.

Totally disagree. She would be a professional

A professional and experienced nanny would see this for what it is, a controlling neurotic mother who will micromanage everything. Only a desperate or inexperienced nanny would take this position. Plenty of better jobs available.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The type of nanny who would agree to this is a desperate nanny.

Totally disagree. She would be a professional

A professional and experienced nanny would see this for what it is, a controlling neurotic mother who will micromanage everything. Only a desperate or inexperienced nanny would take this position. Plenty of better jobs available.

Definitely.

I make $60k+ per year. I’m clear on my rules for kids and screentime with me: nothing under 2, minimal 3-5 (max 5 minute clip that explains some science), as needed for school later. I wear an Apple Watch so my phone can be put away as much as possible. But I’m not agreeing to no phone usage.

The kids ask me to look up and print out coloring pages. They ask what the biggest worm, bird, spider, etc is. I use my phone for waze in the car. I look up recipes and projects. I purchase gifts, clothes and groceries. I reserve books, turn on audiobooks and read ebooks aloud. We turn on Pandora and have dance parties.

I teach the kids that technology is a tool. It’s up to us to use it responsibly.

[Anonymous]

My cousin is a nanny to 3 boys and has an oral agreement no tot use her phone more than "absolutely necessary." It is no problem.

I should do the same thing if I were to hire a nanny. A phone is for emergencies. It is not a thing to obsess about.