School Board Meeting 9/23

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible that school librarians are now going to be targets of this insane witch hunt. It is all for politics and all for show and yet it is going to create enormous stress, interfere with the important work that they do, and cause real harm to people.

It is so clear that these people don’t actually believe anything that they say and they don’t care what harm they cause. They know children are in the audience and yet read passages that they know are intended for a young adult audience. Elementary schoolers are not highschoolers. Those passages are not in any books in an elementary school library. But they don’t care, because it’s all just a big stunt. Conflating high school readers with kindergarten readers is precisely what they do. And they don’t care that I kindergarten or is actually listening, because actually caring about children is not the point. Ginning up political outrage is the point. They disgust me.

DP. Start by assuming that parents do care about their children. That their actions are not purely political or performative.

It'll help you to understand them and will lower your blood pressure.

Parents care for their children. But this woman was not a parent of an FCPS child. These were political agitators who heard about a controversial book in another district and decided to make a hubbub about it to gin up outrage.

These was no “protecting” children involved. She harmed children by reading out loud passages that were age inappropriate. She didn’t care…she kept plowing on despite the children in the room because she got off on the shock and outrage and attention she was getting.

If someone seriously has an objection to a book, there is a formal process for challenging the book. It involves actually reading the entire work, which I can almost guarantee this person did not do. Because that wasn’t the point. The point was getting attention.

She suggested she was a parent at Fairfax HS. Was that misleading?

There were apparently no children present at the Board meeting when she read the passages (and if any YAs were present they were the same age as those FCPS would allow to check out the books).

The formal process for challenging the books has now been initiated by FCPS. The odds that it would have done so without this parent speaking up and the outcry over the next 18 hours are slim to none.

Anyone who has tried to be a polite, behind-the-scenes advocate in FCPS knows you usually get completely ignored. FCPS just renamed a school after a man who urged others to "make good trouble," which is exactly what appears to have happened here.

The book challenge process is not initiated by the school system. It is initiated by community members, a teacher, a parent, anyone who has read the work in its entirety. There is a whole regulation about it. It happens all the time without this kind of ridiculous circus.

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And now we have regular wannabe right wing media viral star, Asra Nomani. Again.

Is she gunning for a job on Newsmax or something?

Maybe she just sees egregious actions on the part of our School Board. After all, she is a journalist. You have a problem with that?

Pfft. She’s not a journalist. She’s an activist with an agenda.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Here’s what you do in a HS library if you don’t want to read a book: you don’t read it. You choose a different one. I hate science fiction. So I don’t read it. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have merit and it’s not my business to say it shouldn’t be in the library. It’s just not the book for me. Easy!

This is a school library for children. Do you let your kids decide what to have for dinner every night? Do you let your four year old decide what to purchase at the grocery store? Does you let your six year old go to school in freezing weather without a coat? Wearing sandals?

Kids make lots of choices. I let my kids make choices on many things--but I made sure their choices are safe.

Four year olds are not reading this book.

Do you let your high schoolers choose their own movies on Netflix? That’s what we are talking about here.

[Anonymous]

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

Exactly. It’s all the GOP knows how to do. Try to whip up some good old-fashioned fearmongering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible that school librarians are now going to be targets of this insane witch hunt. It is all for politics and all for show and yet it is going to create enormous stress, interfere with the important work that they do, and cause real harm to people.

It is so clear that these people don’t actually believe anything that they say and they don’t care what harm they cause. They know children are in the audience and yet read passages that they know are intended for a young adult audience. Elementary schoolers are not highschoolers. Those passages are not in any books in an elementary school library. But they don’t care, because it’s all just a big stunt. Conflating high school readers with kindergarten readers is precisely what they do. And they don’t care that I kindergarten or is actually listening, because actually caring about children is not the point. Ginning up political outrage is the point. They disgust me.

DP. Start by assuming that parents do care about their children. That their actions are not purely political or performative.

It'll help you to understand them and will lower your blood pressure.

Parents care for their children. But this woman was not a parent of an FCPS child. These were political agitators who heard about a controversial book in another district and decided to make a hubbub about it to gin up outrage.

These was no “protecting” children involved. She harmed children by reading out loud passages that were age inappropriate. She didn’t care…she kept plowing on despite the children in the room because she got off on the shock and outrage and attention she was getting.

If someone seriously has an objection to a book, there is a formal process for challenging the book. It involves actually reading the entire work, which I can almost guarantee this person did not do. Because that wasn’t the point. The point was getting attention.

She suggested she was a parent at Fairfax HS. Was that misleading?

There were apparently no children present at the Board meeting when she read the passages (and if any YAs were present they were the same age as those FCPS would allow to check out the books).

The formal process for challenging the books has now been initiated by FCPS. The odds that it would have done so without this parent speaking up and the outcry over the next 18 hours are slim to none.

Anyone who has tried to be a polite, behind-the-scenes advocate in FCPS knows you usually get completely ignored. FCPS just renamed a school after a man who urged others to "make good trouble," which is exactly what appears to have happened here.

The book challenge process is not initiated by the school system. It is initiated by community members, a teacher, a parent, anyone who has read the work in its entirety. There is a whole regulation about it. It happens all the time without this kind of ridiculous circus.

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

The point was absolutely the contents of the books. Maybe they appeal to you; many others whose opinions matter just as much as yours don't think they are appropriate material for K-12 libraries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

Exactly. It’s all the GOP knows how to do. Try to whip up some good old-fashioned fearmongering.

If we're talking about FCPS, all the Democrats know how to do is pontificate about equity and hire assorted miscreants who think it's fine to purchase books for school libraries that normalize gay sex involving children still in elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

Exactly. It’s all the GOP knows how to do. Try to whip up some good old-fashioned fearmongering.

Exactly. If she was actually concerned, she would have initiated the u process. But she wanted to shock and earn viral fame. Which she did.

[Anonymous]

What a bunch of immature parents fighting about what she should have done, etc... We have two threads running on this forum, because she got the attention to this, if not, no body would have bothered.

Coming to the books, I don' think they belong in school, period. Schools instead are becoming trash day by day.

Whoever approved them are sick idiots, playing with children's minds. They can watch whatever on the internet, tv, movies at their own time.. But, encouraging these kind of useless trash in school makes them think this is normal at tender age..

What kind of sick people are you. Think about the lines from the book for a second and you will know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

Exactly. It’s all the GOP knows how to do. Try to whip up some good old-fashioned fearmongering.

If we're talking about FCPS, all the Democrats know how to do is pontificate about equity and hire assorted miscreants who think it's fine to purchase books for school libraries that normalize gay sex involving children still in elementary school.

It is NORMAL and OK for children to experiment with sex. Even gay sex. It is OK for adults in a story to remember those experiences.

Also, gay sex is NORMAL and OK.

Go away, Republican trash.

Not in 4th grade, it isn't.

PS - calling posters "trash" gets your post deleted, you Democrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of immature parents fighting about what she should have done, etc... We have two threads running on this forum, because she got the attention to this, if not, no body would have bothered.

Coming to the books, I don' think they belong in school, period. Schools instead are becoming trash day by day.

Whoever approved them are sick idiots, playing with children's minds. They can watch whatever on the internet, tv, movies at their own time.. But, encouraging these kind of useless trash in school makes them think this is normal at tender age..

What kind of sick people are you. Think about the lines from the book for a second and you will know.

Oh no, the special snowflakes can't handle gay sex. SHOCKER.

High schoolers are a "tender age"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

Exactly. It’s all the GOP knows how to do. Try to whip up some good old-fashioned fearmongering.

If we're talking about FCPS, all the Democrats know how to do is pontificate about equity and hire assorted miscreants who think it's fine to purchase books for school libraries that normalize gay sex involving children still in elementary school.

It is NORMAL and OK for children to experiment with sex. Even gay sex. It is OK for adults in a story to remember those experiences.

Also, gay sex is NORMAL and OK.

Go away, Republican trash.

Not in 4th grade, it isn't.

PS - calling posters "trash" gets your post deleted, you Democrat.

Tons of kids "play doctor" at that age. No big deal.

[Anonymous]

OK prudes...let's hear:

What is an acceptable age for kids to start masturbating?

What is an acceptable age for kids to start experimenting with sex with peers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

Exactly. It’s all the GOP knows how to do. Try to whip up some good old-fashioned fearmongering.

If we're talking about FCPS, all the Democrats know how to do is pontificate about equity and hire assorted miscreants who think it's fine to purchase books for school libraries that normalize gay sex involving children still in elementary school.

It is NORMAL and OK for children to experiment with sex. Even gay sex. It is OK for adults in a story to remember those experiences.

Also, gay sex is NORMAL and OK.

Go away, Republican trash.

Not in 4th grade, it isn't.

PS - calling posters "trash" gets your post deleted, you Democrat.

Tons of kids "play doctor" at that age. No big deal.

No honey. They don't. Not at age 9-10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point of this circus was not the book. It was the attention.

Exactly. It’s all the GOP knows how to do. Try to whip up some good old-fashioned fearmongering.

If we're talking about FCPS, all the Democrats know how to do is pontificate about equity and hire assorted miscreants who think it's fine to purchase books for school libraries that normalize gay sex involving children still in elementary school.

It is NORMAL and OK for children to experiment with sex. Even gay sex. It is OK for adults in a story to remember those experiences.

Also, gay sex is NORMAL and OK.

Go away, Republican trash.

Not in 4th grade, it isn't.

PS - calling posters "trash" gets your post deleted, you Democrat.

Tons of kids "play doctor" at that age. No big deal.

No honey. They don't. Not at age 9-10.

How old were you when you "played doctor"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK prudes...let's hear:

What is an acceptable age for kids to start masturbating?

What is an acceptable age for kids to start experimenting with sex with peers?

That is not the issue. The issue is the graphic nature of those words and that book. You do know there is a graphic novel she was addressing, as well?