Outdoor lunches - what's your student having?

[Anonymous]

Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

What is Smart Restart?

[Anonymous]

OP,

Are you sure your DD will be eating outside?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

I can’t access the article, but it looks like the UK had other measures in place, like regular testing. Does your school conduct regular testing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

I can’t access the article, but it looks like the UK had other measures in place, like regular testing. Does your school conduct regular testing?

Regular testing, universal healthcare, paid time off when adults get sick, and multiple other differences that impact why we mask in US schools and not in other countries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

I can’t access the article, but it looks like the UK had other measures in place, like regular testing. Does your school conduct regular testing?

Regular testing, universal healthcare, paid time off when adults get sick, and multiple other differences that impact why we mask in US schools and not in other countries.

The only testing mentioned in the article to prevent transmission at school were at home tests, which they say compliance for which was very spotty. LOL - "Universal health care" and "paid time off when adults get sick" -> that is a completely new reason anyone has ever mentioned for why kids have to mask (and would be politically toxic). And "multiple other differences"?!?

The CDC's own study showed there was no statistical difference in kids masking. And there are also the Scandinavian countries that don't mask kids in school.

COVID doesn't transform itself in Europe. Same virus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

The CDC article you link still found a 21% lower incidence of COVID in schools where kids wore masks. I’d take that! Plus, the study predates the Delta variant. Kids are now being infected and getting hospitalized at increased rates. They should all wear masks in school as masking is proven to reduce spread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

The CDC article you link still found a 21% lower incidence of COVID in schools where kids wore masks. I’d take that! Plus, the study predates the Delta variant. Kids are now being infected and getting hospitalized at increased rates. They should all wear masks in school as masking is proven to reduce spread.

That was a statistically insignificant rate, meaning it could have been explained by chance alone. It's the same as if everyone wore purple shirts too. Even the leading COVID-cautious scientists (Michael Osterholm for one) are saying cloth masks are not effective, especially against delta.

Speaking of which, delta is not more virulent, just more contagious. And we already know healthy kids have less risk with COVID than they do the flu. Do we require such things for the flu? No, we don't.

18 months in, there's tons of developmental and emotional costs of little kids wearing masks. I'd recommend the New York Magazine article by David Zweig last week (which I'm sure is what prompted the NYTimes to do an article on the UK). We don't require harmful treatments, especially on little children, that have never been done in history unless they are proven. The UK and Scandinavia prove every day that masks in school are not required.

Parents should be able to choose what they want their kids to do. If you're more comfortable with your kids masking, then by all means mask them (and do it with a higher quality mask).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

The CDC article you link still found a 21% lower incidence of COVID in schools where kids wore masks. I’d take that! Plus, the study predates the Delta variant. Kids are now being infected and getting hospitalized at increased rates. They should all wear masks in school as masking is proven to reduce spread.

That was a statistically insignificant rate, meaning it could have been explained by chance alone. It's the same as if everyone wore purple shirts too. Even the leading COVID-cautious scientists (Michael Osterholm for one) are saying cloth masks are not effective, especially against delta.

Speaking of which, delta is not more virulent, just more contagious. And we already know healthy kids have less risk with COVID than they do the flu. Do we require such things for the flu? No, we don't.

18 months in, there's tons of developmental and emotional costs of little kids wearing masks. I'd recommend the New York Magazine article by David Zweig last week (which I'm sure is what prompted the NYTimes to do an article on the UK). We don't require harmful treatments, especially on little children, that have never been done in history unless they are proven. The UK and Scandinavia prove every day that masks in school are not required.

Parents should be able to choose what they want their kids to do. If you're more comfortable with your kids masking, then by all means mask them (and do it with a higher quality mask).

I’ll show you my data if you show me yours.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/28/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR0HWfqIL8P3kU8YzhDLMYWYqUvSZcuzPQJa5GsiYbc6-_Cirw_bVsb9OMg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

The CDC article you link still found a 21% lower incidence of COVID in schools where kids wore masks. I’d take that! Plus, the study predates the Delta variant. Kids are now being infected and getting hospitalized at increased rates. They should all wear masks in school as masking is proven to reduce spread.

That was a statistically insignificant rate, meaning it could have been explained by chance alone. It's the same as if everyone wore purple shirts too. Even the leading COVID-cautious scientists (Michael Osterholm for one) are saying cloth masks are not effective, especially against delta.

Speaking of which, delta is not more virulent, just more contagious. And we already know healthy kids have less risk with COVID than they do the flu. Do we require such things for the flu? No, we don't.

18 months in, there's tons of developmental and emotional costs of little kids wearing masks. I'd recommend the New York Magazine article by David Zweig last week (which I'm sure is what prompted the NYTimes to do an article on the UK). We don't require harmful treatments, especially on little children, that have never been done in history unless they are proven. The UK and Scandinavia prove every day that masks in school are not required.

Parents should be able to choose what they want their kids to do. If you're more comfortable with your kids masking, then by all means mask them (and do it with a higher quality mask).

“Vaccination is number one, but masking is number two and is therefore the most effective way to reduce spread of COVID in settings where people [including children less than 12] cannot be vaccinated,” said Dr. Mike Smith, a professor of pediatrics at Duke University School of Medicine.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/face-masks-and-kids-separating-fact-from-fiction/2021/08

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

The CDC article you link still found a 21% lower incidence of COVID in schools where kids wore masks. I’d take that! Plus, the study predates the Delta variant. Kids are now being infected and getting hospitalized at increased rates. They should all wear masks in school as masking is proven to reduce spread.

That was a statistically insignificant rate, meaning it could have been explained by chance alone. It's the same as if everyone wore purple shirts too. Even the leading COVID-cautious scientists (Michael Osterholm for one) are saying cloth masks are not effective, especially against delta.

Speaking of which, delta is not more virulent, just more contagious. And we already know healthy kids have less risk with COVID than they do the flu. Do we require such things for the flu? No, we don't.

18 months in, there's tons of developmental and emotional costs of little kids wearing masks. I'd recommend the New York Magazine article by David Zweig last week (which I'm sure is what prompted the NYTimes to do an article on the UK). We don't require harmful treatments, especially on little children, that have never been done in history unless they are proven. The UK and Scandinavia prove every day that masks in school are not required.

Parents should be able to choose what they want their kids to do. If you're more comfortable with your kids masking, then by all means mask them (and do it with a higher quality mask).

“Vaccination is number one, but masking is number two and is therefore the most effective way to reduce spread of COVID in settings where people [including children less than 12] cannot be vaccinated,” said Dr. Mike Smith, a professor of pediatrics at Duke University School of Medicine.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/face-masks-and-kids-separating-fact-from-fiction/2021/08

This study had no RCT, claiming it was unethical while raising no similar ethical objections with vaccine trials! Meanwhile, schools in the UK and Scandinavia have been unmasked the entire time.

David Zweig actually tried to interview them for his article in New York Magazine, and got nowhere as soon as he asked a few questions:
https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1425131055183446018

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

The CDC article you link still found a 21% lower incidence of COVID in schools where kids wore masks. I’d take that! Plus, the study predates the Delta variant. Kids are now being infected and getting hospitalized at increased rates. They should all wear masks in school as masking is proven to reduce spread.

That was a statistically insignificant rate, meaning it could have been explained by chance alone. It's the same as if everyone wore purple shirts too. Even the leading COVID-cautious scientists (Michael Osterholm for one) are saying cloth masks are not effective, especially against delta.

Speaking of which, delta is not more virulent, just more contagious. And we already know healthy kids have less risk with COVID than they do the flu. Do we require such things for the flu? No, we don't.

18 months in, there's tons of developmental and emotional costs of little kids wearing masks. I'd recommend the New York Magazine article by David Zweig last week (which I'm sure is what prompted the NYTimes to do an article on the UK). We don't require harmful treatments, especially on little children, that have never been done in history unless they are proven. The UK and Scandinavia prove every day that masks in school are not required.

Parents should be able to choose what they want their kids to do. If you're more comfortable with your kids masking, then by all means mask them (and do it with a higher quality mask).

I’ll show you my data if you show me yours.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/28/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR0HWfqIL8P3kU8YzhDLMYWYqUvSZcuzPQJa5GsiYbc6-_Cirw_bVsb9OMg

Delta has been in the UK for months now, and the UK government has been keeping data on it:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1423701658740006917.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rain is forecast for Monday through Thursday of next week. Let's watch Smart Restart heads explode.

If only we knew what would happen if kids were unmasked at school, like in an entire densely populated 1st world country?!? Oh yeah, we have one that doesn't mask kids at school at all, the UK:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/us/students-masks-classrooms-britain.html

Or like in South Carolina where an entire county just went virtual because they don’t mask and too many cases of Covid in elementary school.

An entire country's kids don't mask at school, but solely because 1 elementary school in SC didn't mask, COVID spread. LOL Great logic there.

Even the CDC's own study of school COVID mitigation methods found no statistical difference between kids masking and not masking. That probably explains why an entire country's kids (plus many kids throughout the US and the world) don't mask at school and are fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm

The CDC article you link still found a 21% lower incidence of COVID in schools where kids wore masks. I’d take that! Plus, the study predates the Delta variant. Kids are now being infected and getting hospitalized at increased rates. They should all wear masks in school as masking is proven to reduce spread.

That was a statistically insignificant rate, meaning it could have been explained by chance alone. It's the same as if everyone wore purple shirts too. Even the leading COVID-cautious scientists (Michael Osterholm for one) are saying cloth masks are not effective, especially against delta.

Speaking of which, delta is not more virulent, just more contagious. And we already know healthy kids have less risk with COVID than they do the flu. Do we require such things for the flu? No, we don't.

18 months in, there's tons of developmental and emotional costs of little kids wearing masks. I'd recommend the New York Magazine article by David Zweig last week (which I'm sure is what prompted the NYTimes to do an article on the UK). We don't require harmful treatments, especially on little children, that have never been done in history unless they are proven. The UK and Scandinavia prove every day that masks in school are not required.

Parents should be able to choose what they want their kids to do. If you're more comfortable with your kids masking, then by all means mask them (and do it with a higher quality mask).

I’ll show you my data if you show me yours.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/28/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR0HWfqIL8P3kU8YzhDLMYWYqUvSZcuzPQJa5GsiYbc6-_Cirw_bVsb9OMg

Delta has been in the UK for months now, and the UK government has been keeping data on it:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1423701658740006917.html

Did you actually open the report Dan Wolt (whoever the hell that is) references, or are you just trusting his interpretation? I opened it, and couldn’t find anything to suggest that the UK concluded that Delta is less virulent. Point out where it says that please.