Church keeping vaccination "registry"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Private religious group: they can do what they want to do.

Religious organizations don't have to admit gay people or anyone else they don't want to admit, they don't have to pay for reproductive health care, etc... They can do what they want OP.

Yeah, this. If you'd like to change the law, I think that would be great. Religious groups can't discriminate against the unvaccinated, but that also can't discriminate against gay people, pay for birth control and abortions, etc.

What do you say?

[Anonymous]

The average congregant age at my church is over 65. I’m glad they’re taking high levels of precautions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our synagogue has stated that members need to show proof of vaccine and that will be keeping a "vaccine registry" of the members. Only members on the registry will be able to attend events from now on.

This is in California. The first event is tonight.

I am vaccinated and I have the QR code from California but the synagogue says that it is not enough. I need to show the original record with the doses, dates, type, and location received to prove that two weeks have passed since my last dose (QR code doesn't show anything except that you were vaccinated). I don't feel comfortable with handing over my medical record.

I feel like privacy has gone out the window and feel violated. Are other churches doing this registry, too?

Do they just need to see to verify or will they keep a record of the info? (Side question because I don't know- do Synagogues call themselves churches too?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird post. Jewish people don’t use church and synagogue interchangeably

+1. I've only ever heard non-Jewish people do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our synagogue has stated that members need to show proof of vaccine and that will be keeping a "vaccine registry" of the members. Only members on the registry will be able to attend events from now on.

This is in California. The first event is tonight.

I am vaccinated and I have the QR code from California but the synagogue says that it is not enough. I need to show the original record with the doses, dates, type, and location received to prove that two weeks have passed since my last dose (QR code doesn't show anything except that you were vaccinated). I don't feel comfortable with handing over my medical record.

I feel like privacy has gone out the window and feel violated. Are other churches doing this registry, too?

Money talks, OP. Try to offer a reasonable compromise (maybe show them your code and then they agree to let you start attending 2 weeks from now?). If they don't go for it, tell them you will not be renewing your membership and paying dues. Let others know that this is what you are doing. If enough people say this, it will get their attention. If not, maybe it wasn't a good fit anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am vaccinated and I have the QR code from California but the synagogue says that it is not enough. I need to show the original record with the doses, dates, type, and location received to prove that two weeks have passed since my last dose (QR code doesn't show anything except that you were vaccinated). I don't feel comfortable with handing over my medical record.

Why? Is there any information other than the information about the Covid vaccine? I would personally black out any personal information other than my name. On mine, the only extra information is my birthdate, which I would black out. Otherwise, it is my name, the vaccine, the lot number, the location and date where I got both shots.

Since the point of the registry is to ensure that those in attendance are fully vaccinated, have had both doses of the vaccines that require two doses and that you are 2+ weeks past the final dose, I'm not sure why you aren't willing to provide that information. I agree with the synagogue that the QR code is not sufficient. It doesn't specify whether you got a one-dose vaccination or a two-dose vaccination, whether you got two doses (for the ones that require two doses) and what date, so that they know you are 2+ weeks past the final dose.

I happen to know enough people, especially those attending religious functions that are mask rejecters, and anti-vaccination and frankly, I don't trust that those people won't just lie to do whatever they want. So I believe that your synagogue's caution is warranted.

Our church says only vaccinated people can attend in-person services, but does not require proof. We continue to attend on-line services as our children are not vaccinated and we cannot bring them to church right now.

[Anonymous]

Hey OP, I'm a big privacy advocate in most areas of my life and very guarded about personal information, but I'm not sure why this concerns you so much. Are they keeping a copy of the record, or (as I assume is more likely) just looking at it to write you down on a spreadsheet of the vaccinated? If the latter, what's the intrusion? We give up medical information all the time -- to schools, employers, to foreign countries that have vaccination requirements for visas, etc.

If they want to keep a copy, I would ask questions about their record-keeping security, but I still understand their desire to verify.

And shame on the PP who suggests this is some kind of church-state entanglement. So patently false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should track unvaccinated people and set aside a closed off area for services to protect the congregation. No mixing.

Maybe I didn't explain it right. Only members on the registry (vaccinated only) can attend services.

Is there a commandment to attend services? Would it be a sin to not attend? Will services no longer be online?

I’m thinking it might have a different impact based on the teachings of a particular religion. Currently, my religion is waiving the requirement still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our synagogue has stated that members need to show proof of vaccine and that will be keeping a "vaccine registry" of the members. Only members on the registry will be able to attend events from now on.

This is in California. The first event is tonight.

I am vaccinated and I have the QR code from California but the synagogue says that it is not enough. I need to show the original record with the doses, dates, type, and location received to prove that two weeks have passed since my last dose (QR code doesn't show anything except that you were vaccinated). I don't feel comfortable with handing over my medical record.

I feel like privacy has gone out the window and feel violated. Are other churches doing this registry, too?

Privacy you are kidding, right?

Grow up! And honestly shut up.

Pick another place to worship and move on. You like choices and "freedoms" right? Well now is your chance idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our synagogue has stated that members need to show proof of vaccine and that will be keeping a "vaccine registry" of the members. Only members on the registry will be able to attend events from now on.

This is in California. The first event is tonight.

I am vaccinated and I have the QR code from California but the synagogue says that it is not enough. I need to show the original record with the doses, dates, type, and location received to prove that two weeks have passed since my last dose (QR code doesn't show anything except that you were vaccinated). I don't feel comfortable with handing over my medical record.

I feel like privacy has gone out the window and feel violated. Are other churches doing this registry, too?

YOU are not Jewish. No jew uses the word Church in exchange for Synagogue.

Troll.

[Anonymous]

It’s a waste of time and effort to do so. How can they verify people were actually vaccinated? They cannot. They should just take people at their word. Having a vaccine record “on file” is they same as taking people at their word but with added steps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our synagogue has stated that members need to show proof of vaccine and that will be keeping a "vaccine registry" of the members. Only members on the registry will be able to attend events from now on.

This is in California. The first event is tonight.

I am vaccinated and I have the QR code from California but the synagogue says that it is not enough. I need to show the original record with the doses, dates, type, and location received to prove that two weeks have passed since my last dose (QR code doesn't show anything except that you were vaccinated). I don't feel comfortable with handing over my medical record.

I feel like privacy has gone out the window and feel violated. Are other churches doing this registry, too?

YOU are not Jewish. No jew uses the word Church in exchange for Synagogue.

Troll.

B.S.

I'm a Jew, too.

I always say Church to non-Jews.

What word do you use to describe all religious buildings? Church IS the right word.

As a Jew, it's a LOT more offensive to call them all temples!

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/temple.html

And temple is what I generally hear from non-Jews but temple has actual meaning.

To fellow Jews, I generally say shul but there's no way that non-Jews know what that means.

Church is a lot more universal word if you are asking about Jews and non-Jews together.

What church do you attend?

Do you attend church?

Does your church ask your vaccine status?

It only makes sense to use synagogue if you are only talking about Jewish churches

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our synagogue has stated that members need to show proof of vaccine and that will be keeping a "vaccine registry" of the members. Only members on the registry will be able to attend events from now on.

This is in California. The first event is tonight.

I am vaccinated and I have the QR code from California but the synagogue says that it is not enough. I need to show the original record with the doses, dates, type, and location received to prove that two weeks have passed since my last dose (QR code doesn't show anything except that you were vaccinated). I don't feel comfortable with handing over my medical record.

I feel like privacy has gone out the window and feel violated. Are other churches doing this registry, too?

YOU are not Jewish. No jew uses the word Church in exchange for Synagogue.

Troll.

B.S.

I'm a Jew, too.

I always say Church to non-Jews.

What word do you use to describe all religious buildings? Church IS the right word.

As a Jew, it's a LOT more offensive to call them all temples!

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/temple.html

And temple is what I generally hear from non-Jews but temple has actual meaning.

To fellow Jews, I generally say shul but there's no way that non-Jews know what that means.

Church is a lot more universal word if you are asking about Jews and non-Jews together.

What church do you attend?

Do you attend church?

Does your church ask your vaccine status?

It only makes sense to use synagogue if you are only talking about Jewish churches

Assimilation at its weirdest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird post. Jewish people don’t use church and synagogue interchangeably

+1. I've only ever heard non-Jewish people do this.

+1

Sus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird post. Jewish people don’t use church and synagogue interchangeably

+1. I've only ever heard non-Jewish people do this.

+1

Sus

+2 People know the word synagogue.
- non-Jew