list the college commits from your Club for BOYS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bethesda has had a lot of good boys’ commitments for the last few years. They have boys on almost all the Ivy teams now, so no athletic scholarships, but still impressive to me and I think most parents. Others are starters on soccer powerhouse teams including Georgetown, Maryland, Stanford, and Wake Forest.

Ok. The Ivies have to do with who your parents are. I always giggle when I hear legacies talk this way at our private HS. Most of these kids would have gone there without soccer.

Clubs like Bethesda, McLean and Arlington have an incredibly affluent and educated parent base. These kids were going to good schools without soccer.

Which makes the college commits for boys at McLean and Arlington even more underwhelming because it isn't anywhere close to Bethesda, not be a long shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.loudounsoccer.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2666305

http://www.arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/college-placement/college-commitments/

https://alexandria-soccer.org/programs/academy/college-placement/

https://www.soccerwire.com/club/virginia-development-academy/?filter=eyJzb3J0X2J5IjoibWV0YS5pc19mZWF0dXJlZC5yYXciLCJzb3J0X2RpcmVjdGlvbiI6ImRlc2MiLCJxdWVyeSI6IiIsInNlbGVjdGVkRmlsdGVycyI6eyJtZXRhLmdlbmRlci5yYXciOiJtYWxlIn0sInNlbGVjdGVkUmFuZ2VGaWx0ZXJzIjp7fSwiY3VycmVudFBhZ2UiOjF9

https://www.soccerwire.com/recruiting/boys-2021-college-commitments/?filter=eyJzb3J0X2J5IjoibWV0YS5pc19mZWF0dXJlZC5yYXciLCJzb3J0X2RpcmVjdGlvbiI6ImRlc2MiLCJxdWVyeSI6IiIsInNlbGVjdGVkRmlsdGVycyI6eyJtZXRhLmdlbmRlci5yYXciOiJtYWxlIiwibWV0YS5pc19jb21taXR0ZWQucmF3IjoiMSIsIm1ldGEuZ3JhZHVhdGlvbl95ZWFyLnJhdyI6IjIwMjEiLCJtZXRhLnN0YXRlX3Byb3ZpbmNlLnJhdyI6IlZBIn0sInNlbGVjdGVkUmFuZ2VGaWx0ZXJzIjp7fSwiY3VycmVudFBhZ2UiOjF9

OOF....given the sheer number of boys playing soccer in the DMV those lists are incredibly underwhelming.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a very good thread because people new to the sport for boys (and especially with their firstborn) don't know the obstacles for this.

If more parents did, perhaps the landscape would look different and there would be more heart from coaches on how to develop a kid for life---mirror being a good role model instead of a jerk and example of how NOT to behave or treat people.

It's very different on the girls' side because they are available. I wish boy parents would CTFO and not listen to the lies from Clubs. I wish their 'college' information/recruitment nights were presented in a REALISTIC light. Give them the facts and odds so they can make sound choices for their high school years and get priorities in order.

Agree. It's the wrong sport for your son to go into if he has dreams of college scholarships or big professional contracts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a very good thread because people new to the sport for boys (and especially with their firstborn) don't know the obstacles for this.

If more parents did, perhaps the landscape would look different and there would be more heart from coaches on how to develop a kid for life---mirror being a good role model instead of a jerk and example of how NOT to behave or treat people.

It's very different on the girls' side because they are available. I wish boy parents would CTFO and not listen to the lies from Clubs. I wish their 'college' information/recruitment nights were presented in a REALISTIC light. Give them the facts and odds so they can make sound choices for their high school years and get priorities in order.

Agree. It's the wrong sport for your son to go into if he has dreams of college scholarships or big professional contracts.

That’s true with respect to almost any sport. I would not limit that to soccer. Academic excellence is the best focus for almost any parents and kids on these boards. If you can do both, even better, but academics are a very high level and sports at a very high level become mutually exclusive pursuits, at least at levels beyond passable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a very good thread because people new to the sport for boys (and especially with their firstborn) don't know the obstacles for this.

If more parents did, perhaps the landscape would look different and there would be more heart from coaches on how to develop a kid for life---mirror being a good role model instead of a jerk and example of how NOT to behave or treat people.

It's very different on the girls' side because they are available. I wish boy parents would CTFO and not listen to the lies from Clubs. I wish their 'college' information/recruitment nights were presented in a REALISTIC light. Give them the facts and odds so they can make sound choices for their high school years and get priorities in order.

Agree. It's the wrong sport for your son to go into if he has dreams of college scholarships or big professional contracts.

That’s true with respect to almost any sport. I would not limit that to soccer. Academic excellence is the best focus for almost any parents and kids on these boards. If you can do both, even better, but academics are a very high level and sports at a very high level become mutually exclusive pursuits, at least at levels beyond passable.

+100

The 'very high level' is key. My kid could most likely still get a good GPA at his private HS while balancing the HS team, travel team and Honors/AP academcis---but to what price.

He finished Freshmen year with a 4.3gpa and the realization is there that this path is gong to be more beneficial to his future than the soccer path. He also really wants to play for his HS team again. We had the discussion with him that those 3 things: Club team; perfect gpa in Honors/AP w/ even more demanding courses next year AND Club team, much less a few of the academic/service Clubs are a recipe for a nervous breakdown.

Are you willing to lighten the school load, lower gpa expectations to keep the other balls in the air? Or are you willing to drop the Hs team or the travel team?

Decisions they need to make for their future with the reality of what future there really is in the sport for them. And if the love is still there--possibility of playing it in college club and not the team, etc.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:I'm kind of curious to know how people "know" so much about who's on scholarship and who isn't. Can you tell us how much their scholarships are? Full rides, 50%, 25%, etc.?

I'm also curious, of course, to know how someone thought "DA" meant "USMNT."

But in my experience, a lot of parents have more reasonable expectations. In some cases, it's getting *into* a college -- hence the "Varsity Blues" scandal in which parents were worried about getting their kids admitted, not paying for it.

Only the family and the school knows the scholarship amount.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.loudounsoccer.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2666305

http://www.arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/college-placement/college-commitments/

https://alexandria-soccer.org/programs/academy/college-placement/

https://www.soccerwire.com/club/virginia-development-academy/?filter=eyJzb3J0X2J5IjoibWV0YS5pc19mZWF0dXJlZC5yYXciLCJzb3J0X2RpcmVjdGlvbiI6ImRlc2MiLCJxdWVyeSI6IiIsInNlbGVjdGVkRmlsdGVycyI6eyJtZXRhLmdlbmRlci5yYXciOiJtYWxlIn0sInNlbGVjdGVkUmFuZ2VGaWx0ZXJzIjp7fSwiY3VycmVudFBhZ2UiOjF9

https://www.soccerwire.com/recruiting/boys-2021-college-commitments/?filter=eyJzb3J0X2J5IjoibWV0YS5pc19mZWF0dXJlZC5yYXciLCJzb3J0X2RpcmVjdGlvbiI6ImRlc2MiLCJxdWVyeSI6IiIsInNlbGVjdGVkRmlsdGVycyI6eyJtZXRhLmdlbmRlci5yYXciOiJtYWxlIiwibWV0YS5pc19jb21taXR0ZWQucmF3IjoiMSIsIm1ldGEuZ3JhZHVhdGlvbl95ZWFyLnJhdyI6IjIwMjEiLCJtZXRhLnN0YXRlX3Byb3ZpbmNlLnJhdyI6IlZBIn0sInNlbGVjdGVkUmFuZ2VGaWx0ZXJzIjp7fSwiY3VycmVudFBhZ2UiOjF9

For Loudoun is that list for kids who are playing in soccer in college or just going to college? Surprised by the number of boys at Virginia Tech if it is playing college in soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a very good thread because people new to the sport for boys (and especially with their firstborn) don't know the obstacles for this.

If more parents did, perhaps the landscape would look different and there would be more heart from coaches on how to develop a kid for life---mirror being a good role model instead of a jerk and example of how NOT to behave or treat people.

It's very different on the girls' side because they are available. I wish boy parents would CTFO and not listen to the lies from Clubs. I wish their 'college' information/recruitment nights were presented in a REALISTIC light. Give them the facts and odds so they can make sound choices for their high school years and get priorities in order.

Agree. It's the wrong sport for your son to go into if he has dreams of college scholarships or big professional contracts.

That’s true with respect to almost any sport. I would not limit that to soccer. Academic excellence is the best focus for almost any parents and kids on these boards. If you can do both, even better, but academics are a very high level and sports at a very high level become mutually exclusive pursuits, at least at levels beyond passable.

+100

The 'very high level' is key. My kid could most likely still get a good GPA at his private HS while balancing the HS team, travel team and Honors/AP academcis---but to what price.

He finished Freshmen year with a 4.3gpa and the realization is there that this path is gong to be more beneficial to his future than the soccer path. He also really wants to play for his HS team again. We had the discussion with him that those 3 things: Club team; perfect gpa in Honors/AP w/ even more demanding courses next year AND Club team, much less a few of the academic/service Clubs are a recipe for a nervous breakdown.

Are you willing to lighten the school load, lower gpa expectations to keep the other balls in the air? Or are you willing to drop the Hs team or the travel team?

Decisions they need to make for their future with the reality of what future there really is in the sport for them. And if the love is still there--possibility of playing it in college club and not the team, etc.

For boys that are not students, it may be the way to get into one of the those low tier academic schools and a good thing to get them to actually get a degree.

For the stellar students, I would never sacrifice or take a hit in academic trajectory/potential for soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a very good thread because people new to the sport for boys (and especially with their firstborn) don't know the obstacles for this.

If more parents did, perhaps the landscape would look different and there would be more heart from coaches on how to develop a kid for life---mirror being a good role model instead of a jerk and example of how NOT to behave or treat people.

It's very different on the girls' side because they are available. I wish boy parents would CTFO and not listen to the lies from Clubs. I wish their 'college' information/recruitment nights were presented in a REALISTIC light. Give them the facts and odds so they can make sound choices for their high school years and get priorities in order.

Agree. It's the wrong sport for your son to go into if he has dreams of college scholarships or big professional contracts.

That’s true with respect to almost any sport. I would not limit that to soccer. Academic excellence is the best focus for almost any parents and kids on these boards. If you can do both, even better, but academics are a very high level and sports at a very high level become mutually exclusive pursuits, at least at levels beyond passable.

+100

The 'very high level' is key. My kid could most likely still get a good GPA at his private HS while balancing the HS team, travel team and Honors/AP academcis---but to what price.

He finished Freshmen year with a 4.3gpa and the realization is there that this path is gong to be more beneficial to his future than the soccer path. He also really wants to play for his HS team again. We had the discussion with him that those 3 things: Club team; perfect gpa in Honors/AP w/ even more demanding courses next year AND Club team, much less a few of the academic/service Clubs are a recipe for a nervous breakdown.

Are you willing to lighten the school load, lower gpa expectations to keep the other balls in the air? Or are you willing to drop the Hs team or the travel team?

Decisions they need to make for their future with the reality of what future there really is in the sport for them. And if the love is still there--possibility of playing it in college club and not the team, etc.

For boys that are not students, it may be the way to get into one of the those low tier academic schools and a good thing to get them to actually get a degree.

For the stellar students, I would never sacrifice or take a hit in academic trajectory/potential for soccer.

+1

the equation will be different for everyone. But, for the high SES kids, the soccer route makes less and less sense.

[Anonymous]

For boys that are not students, it may be the way to get into one of the those low tier academic schools and a good thing to get them to actually get a degree.

For the stellar students, I would never sacrifice or take a hit in academic trajectory/potential for soccer.

True Story:

Colleague #1 played for Radford University and obtained degree
Colleague #1 could have played at RU, but decided to pursue academics at UVA. Graduated.

10 years later;

Both work at the same job, same pay grade, same professional path. Is not always about the best school is what I learned from this situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For boys that are not students, it may be the way to get into one of the those low tier academic schools and a good thing to get them to actually get a degree.

For the stellar students, I would never sacrifice or take a hit in academic trajectory/potential for soccer.

True Story:

Colleague #1 played for Radford University and obtained degree
Colleague #2 could have played at RU, but decided to pursue academics at UVA. Graduated.

10 years later;

Both work at the same job, same pay grade, same professional path. Is not always about the best school is what I learned from this situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For boys that are not students, it may be the way to get into one of the those low tier academic schools and a good thing to get them to actually get a degree.

For the stellar students, I would never sacrifice or take a hit in academic trajectory/potential for soccer.

True Story:

Colleague #1 played for Radford University and obtained degree
Colleague #2 could have played at RU, but decided to pursue academics at UVA. Graduated.

10 years later;

Both work at the same job, same pay grade, same professional path. Is not always about the best school is what I learned from this situation.

Obvioulsy, Colleague #2, partied too hard at UVA . I am a GS-15 Fed in STEM and we have no Radford degrees at my agency, but plenty of Ivies and Tech, UVA grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bethesda has had a lot of good boys’ commitments for the last few years. They have boys on almost all the Ivy teams now, so no athletic scholarships, but still impressive to me and I think most parents. Others are starters on soccer powerhouse teams including Georgetown, Maryland, Stanford, and Wake Forest.

https://www.bethesdasoccer.org/commitments/

Some solid Boys commitments. Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Princeton and Rider on their Blue team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bethesda has had a lot of good boys’ commitments for the last few years. They have boys on almost all the Ivy teams now, so no athletic scholarships, but still impressive to me and I think most parents. Others are starters on soccer powerhouse teams including Georgetown, Maryland, Stanford, and Wake Forest.

https://www.bethesdasoccer.org/commitments/

Some solid Boys commitments. Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Princeton and Rider on their Blue team.

Bethesda is the only Club I've seen with that many solid commits. Some of the other Clubs are really, really bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bethesda has had a lot of good boys’ commitments for the last few years. They have boys on almost all the Ivy teams now, so no athletic scholarships, but still impressive to me and I think most parents. Others are starters on soccer powerhouse teams including Georgetown, Maryland, Stanford, and Wake Forest.

https://www.bethesdasoccer.org/commitments/

Some solid Boys commitments. Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Princeton and Rider on their Blue team.

Bethesda is the only Club I've seen with that many solid commits. Some of the other Clubs are really, really bad.

You want kids to come to your Club. How about you lead with the college commits each year ?

The Club my kid just left was laughable with their male college commits for all of the arrogance that is had by the TD/coaching staff. I won't even go to their USMNT or pro alumni...NOT