IAAT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ me again - I don’t feel like they should be graded against kids in non pandemic times? I feel you would need that data for age norming. I feel like they should only be normed again fcps 6th graders this year. But what do I know.

The material for Honors Algebra is not going to change next year because kids were affected by the pandemic. It might be that fewer kids qualify because of how they were learning this year and that should be ok.

Kids will be fine if they take Algebra in 8th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ me again - I don’t feel like they should be graded against kids in non pandemic times? I feel you would need that data for age norming. I feel like they should only be normed again fcps 6th graders this year. But what do I know.

The material for Honors Algebra is not going to change next year because kids were affected by the pandemic. It might be that fewer kids qualify because of how they were learning this year and that should be ok.

Kids will be fine if they take Algebra in 8th grade.

Please, cut the c... with this ‘kids will be fine’ bs.

Talk about your kids. Some kids are already left behind by the pathetic math curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ me again - I don’t feel like they should be graded against kids in non pandemic times? I feel you would need that data for age norming. I feel like they should only be normed again fcps 6th graders this year. But what do I know.

The material for Honors Algebra is not going to change next year because kids were affected by the pandemic. It might be that fewer kids qualify because of how they were learning this year and that should be ok.

Kids will be fine if they take Algebra in 8th grade.

I thought it was the highest percentile scores that get recommended for Algebra (in which case, the actual scores for those that make the cut off might be lower). Or is the threshold an actual score?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ me again - I don’t feel like they should be graded against kids in non pandemic times? I feel you would need that data for age norming. I feel like they should only be normed again fcps 6th graders this year. But what do I know.

The material for Honors Algebra is not going to change next year because kids were affected by the pandemic. It might be that fewer kids qualify because of how they were learning this year and that should be ok.

Kids will be fine if they take Algebra in 8th grade.

I thought it was the highest percentile scores that get recommended for Algebra (in which case, the actual scores for those that make the cut off might be lower). Or is the threshold an actual score?

I thought there was a threshold score. For some reason 91% is standing out in my mind.

[Anonymous]

IAAT is not age adjusted. It also shouldn't be. Readiness to take Algebra doesn't depend on the kid's age. It depends on whether the kid knows the material.

Kids need a 91st percentile on a nationally normed test. They won't re-norm the test for this year, so it won't be curved for the pandemic. The last thing any schools would want to do is place a bunch of kids into Algebra who aren't ready.

I doubt there will be fewer qualifiers this year. Due to the pandemic, a lot of people supplemented with outside programs. Those kids are more likely to be ready for Algebra than kids who normally just rely on the FCPS classes to teach them what they need to know.

[Anonymous]

So theoretically our 6th graders will be the first data to see how many are 91st percentile this year vs other years & what effect the pandemic had - if any. I hope this information is made public. No reason to hide data IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ me again - I don’t feel like they should be graded against kids in non pandemic times? I feel you would need that data for age norming. I feel like they should only be normed again fcps 6th graders this year. But what do I know.

The material for Honors Algebra is not going to change next year because kids were affected by the pandemic. It might be that fewer kids qualify because of how they were learning this year and that should be ok.

Kids will be fine if they take Algebra in 8th grade.

My privileged kid probably will be fine if he takes Algebra in 8th. I wonder about other kids & how much it theoretically could have helped them to have algebra in 7th in terms of the totality of HS math they take when applying for college and how much virtual school limited them in that respect this year.

My kid has a middle school math teacher parent so probably not “harmed” as much as other kids without money for supplements and parents who can’t help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IAAT is not age adjusted. It also shouldn't be. Readiness to take Algebra doesn't depend on the kid's age. It depends on whether the kid knows the material.

Kids need a 91st percentile on a nationally normed test. They won't re-norm the test for this year, so it won't be curved for the pandemic. The last thing any schools would want to do is place a bunch of kids into Algebra who aren't ready.

I doubt there will be fewer qualifiers this year. Due to the pandemic, a lot of people supplemented with outside programs. Those kids are more likely to be ready for Algebra than kids who normally just rely on the FCPS classes to teach them what they need to know.

I agree with this, but I'm not gunning to get my kid into Algebra for 7th. They are good at math but not terribly interested in it, especially compared to some of their peers who are really into math/mathematical thinking. If my kid's IAAT and SOL scores warrant it and the teacher recommends it, we'll consider, but I'd rather they take it in 8th and be prepared versus pushing for it in 7th. I wouldn't want the IAAT graded on a curve to lower the threshold and end up with a class full of unprepared and struggling kids.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone received their scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ me again - I don’t feel like they should be graded against kids in non pandemic times? I feel you would need that data for age norming. I feel like they should only be normed again fcps 6th graders this year. But what do I know.

Completely disagree. They should absolutely use the same standard. The algebra curriculum won’t change because kids aren’t prepared for it. And if fewer kids make it in, that’s fine. I’m not even upset about it, this year has been crazy. I don’t even understand all the people who think kids should have learned the same as in past years. Unrealistic expectations. I’m usually type A, but I’m just happy to have kids who are doing ok mentally right now. I’m not putting them in a stressful math class unless they are really ready for it, not because they’re ready when graded on a curve.

[Anonymous]

Are the results mailed or emailed?

Shouldn’t we have gotten them by now?

[Anonymous]

No idea. Any teachers who could answer this?

What about parents from previous years (even though things may be different this year.)

[Anonymous]

Just be patient. They said it will be released 2 months after the exam. If they took it in Feb, results will be released in April, etc.

[Anonymous]

It’s been more than 2 months for us, but no answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone received their scores?

Not yet. They said April though but there’s still quite a bit of April left.