Massive Jump in Ivy League ED Applications

[Anonymous]

Yes, such a scam by the colleges!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, such a scam by the colleges!

I wonder how many were accepted without the test scores. I bet the more competitive students managed to take the SATs multiple times and submitted test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, such a scam by the colleges!

I wonder how many were accepted without the test scores. I bet the more competitive students managed to take the SATs multiple times and submitted test scores.

At u penn., 24 percent of the ed admits did not provide test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The system is completely rigged in favor of the colleges. They should get rid of the early app process.

Who is “they”?

[Anonymous]

What about other Ivy Plus schools? Duke, Chicago, Stanford, Northwestern?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm concerned the test optional decree by the colleges is giving students around the country false hope. I'm not sure that admissions offices are willing to take the URM student from South Dakota vs the one from NCS. It will be interesting to see how the geographic and socioeconomic demographics compare this year vs the past.

Dream on. Highly competitive colleges have shown a clear trend away from the old days of advantaging NE/Mid-Atlantic prep school kids and have moved toward focusing on racial/economic/geographic diversity. The only down side for them was the danger of reporting lower average test scores for admitted classes (the result of not focusing on kids who have had private test tutors and taken the test three times). Going test optional removes that complication, and lets them engineer admissions to their heart’s content. A 4.0 gpa kid from South Dakota is golden, even better if first-gen college or Native American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm concerned the test optional decree by the colleges is giving students around the country false hope. I'm not sure that admissions offices are willing to take the URM student from South Dakota vs the one from NCS. It will be interesting to see how the geographic and socioeconomic demographics compare this year vs the past.

Dream on. Highly competitive colleges have shown a clear trend away from the old days of advantaging NE/Mid-Atlantic prep school kids and have moved toward focusing on racial/economic/geographic diversity. The only down side for them was the danger of reporting lower average test scores for admitted classes (the result of not focusing on kids who have had private test tutors and taken the test three times). Going test optional removes that complication, and lets them engineer admissions to their heart’s content. A 4.0 gpa kid from South Dakota is golden, even better if first-gen college or Native American.

+1. A perfect cover! Top students still send in their scores, but schools can do all the gerrymandering and rigging and class creating they want when the low score kids don’t send theirs in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, such a scam by the colleges!

What exactly should they have done here? Tell people not to apply?

[Anonymous]

I don't ever recall seeing some many acceptances from elite schools DS FCPS HS. Posting on "acceptance" Twitter account shows Harvard, CIT, Stanford, Penn, Columbia, MIT, Carnegie Mellon

[Anonymous]

Plenty of reasons, but doesn't hurt to lock in as many tuition payers (er... applicants) as possible when there are few drawbacks. That, plus more ED applicants than ever... Makes sense to me. Outcome is more or less the same as any other year, just skewed in terms of initial data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm concerned the test optional decree by the colleges is giving students around the country false hope. I'm not sure that admissions offices are willing to take the URM student from South Dakota vs the one from NCS. It will be interesting to see how the geographic and socioeconomic demographics compare this year vs the past.

Dream on. Highly competitive colleges have shown a clear trend away from the old days of advantaging NE/Mid-Atlantic prep school kids and have moved toward focusing on racial/economic/geographic diversity. The only down side for them was the danger of reporting lower average test scores for admitted classes (the result of not focusing on kids who have had private test tutors and taken the test three times). Going test optional removes that complication, and lets them engineer admissions to their heart’s content. A 4.0 gpa kid from South Dakota is golden, even better if first-gen college or Native American.

+1. A perfect cover! Top students still send in their scores, but schools can do all the gerrymandering and rigging and class creating they want when the low score kids don’t send theirs in.

This.

Obviously, they are not truly optional; they're shooting fish in a barrel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of reasons, but doesn't hurt to lock in as many tuition payers (er... applicants) as possible when there are few drawbacks. That, plus more ED applicants than ever... Makes sense to me. Outcome is more or less the same as any other year, just skewed in terms of initial data.

All Ivy League schools are need blind in domestic ED and RD admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, such a scam by the colleges!

Private colleges have no obligation to select candidates with top SAT scores. None. They can select 1/2 South Dakota if they feel like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of reasons, but doesn't hurt to lock in as many tuition payers (er... applicants) as possible when there are few drawbacks. That, plus more ED applicants than ever... Makes sense to me. Outcome is more or less the same as any other year, just skewed in terms of initial data.

All Ivy League schools are need blind in domestic ED and RD admissions.

In terms of yield rate, that's irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of reasons, but doesn't hurt to lock in as many tuition payers (er... applicants) as possible when there are few drawbacks. That, plus more ED applicants than ever... Makes sense to me. Outcome is more or less the same as any other year, just skewed in terms of initial data.

All Ivy League schools are need blind in domestic ED and RD admissions.

In terms of yield rate, that's irrelevant.

And “in terms of” that, tuition paying is irrelevant. And thus your comment about “tuition payers”.