I lost 10 lbs in August, but

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Because even if she writes it down today you could gain it all back and then some before your next in person appointment (I assume the surgery won’t be scheduled via phone/video). Focus on losing the next 5 pounds and at least maintaining that loss for a while.

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Anonymous wrote:Like me, it sounds like you make weight loss very emotionally complicated. That's great that you want to change.

I was really helped by Dr. Judith Beck's weight loss books. Helps you get into the mindset of keeping it off forever.

Good luck.

Not even sure how to respond. This has nothing to do with emotions. I need to be a certain weight to have surgery.

the journey between here (obesity) and there (low enough weight for surgery) is about emotions in large part because it is often emotions that are driving us to eat.

I think your doctor is pretty emotionally insensitive for refusing to record your self-reported weight loss, but, truth be told, your doctor doesn’t really care that you lost 5 pounds. The doctor only cares when you show up to be weighed in the office at a weight at or below the target for surgery.

I don’t care about her or my emotions about 5 lbs. I care about the surgery.
But my doctor is not doing office visits at this time. So I can’t just show up to be weighed. And they won’t schedule my surgery until I show that I lost 20 lbs total. Before than pandemic, there was this huge pressure to get me scheduled. Now, the attitude seems to be that I’m SOL because I won’t be able to self-confirm my weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because even if she writes it down today you could gain it all back and then some before your next in person appointment (I assume the surgery won’t be scheduled via phone/video). Focus on losing the next 5 pounds and at least maintaining that loss for a while.

??? The scheduling is by phone. The surgery itself will be in person, but the procedures are scheduled via a phone call.

I can’t be scheduled until I qualify by weight. I won’t be allowed to self-confirm that I qualify by weight or send a photo of me on the scale. But I also can’t come in for a weight check.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like me, it sounds like you make weight loss very emotionally complicated. That's great that you want to change.

I was really helped by Dr. Judith Beck's weight loss books. Helps you get into the mindset of keeping it off forever.

Good luck.

Not even sure how to respond. This has nothing to do with emotions. I need to be a certain weight to have surgery.

the journey between here (obesity) and there (low enough weight for surgery) is about emotions in large part because it is often emotions that are driving us to eat.

I think your doctor is pretty emotionally insensitive for refusing to record your self-reported weight loss, but, truth be told, your doctor doesn’t really care that you lost 5 pounds. The doctor only cares when you show up to be weighed in the office at a weight at or below the target for surgery.

I don’t care about her or my emotions about 5 lbs. I care about the surgery.
But my doctor is not doing office visits at this time. So I can’t just show up to be weighed. And they won’t schedule my surgery until I show that I lost 20 lbs total. Before than pandemic, there was this huge pressure to get me scheduled. Now, the attitude seems to be that I’m SOL because I won’t be able to self-confirm my weight.

Call back and ask to come up with a plan. Explain that you are worried about being able to schedule the surgery and ask how she wants you to track your weight loss so you can be focused on the upcoming surgery.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like me, it sounds like you make weight loss very emotionally complicated. That's great that you want to change.

I was really helped by Dr. Judith Beck's weight loss books. Helps you get into the mindset of keeping it off forever.

Good luck.

Not even sure how to respond. This has nothing to do with emotions. I need to be a certain weight to have surgery.

the journey between here (obesity) and there (low enough weight for surgery) is about emotions in large part because it is often emotions that are driving us to eat.

I think your doctor is pretty emotionally insensitive for refusing to record your self-reported weight loss, but, truth be told, your doctor doesn’t really care that you lost 5 pounds. The doctor only cares when you show up to be weighed in the office at a weight at or below the target for surgery.

I don’t care about her or my emotions about 5 lbs. I care about the surgery.
But my doctor is not doing office visits at this time. So I can’t just show up to be weighed. And they won’t schedule my surgery until I show that I lost 20 lbs total. Before than pandemic, there was this huge pressure to get me scheduled. Now, the attitude seems to be that I’m SOL because I won’t be able to self-confirm my weight.

Then I think you need to call your doctor and ask how you show that you’ve lost 20 pounds when you lose it. Right now it doesn’t matter because you haven’t lost the required amount of weight. So why does it matter if your medical records show that you are 5 pounds heavier?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like me, it sounds like you make weight loss very emotionally complicated. That's great that you want to change.

I was really helped by Dr. Judith Beck's weight loss books. Helps you get into the mindset of keeping it off forever.

Good luck.

Not even sure how to respond. This has nothing to do with emotions. I need to be a certain weight to have surgery.

the journey between here (obesity) and there (low enough weight for surgery) is about emotions in large part because it is often emotions that are driving us to eat.

I think your doctor is pretty emotionally insensitive for refusing to record your self-reported weight loss, but, truth be told, your doctor doesn’t really care that you lost 5 pounds. The doctor only cares when you show up to be weighed in the office at a weight at or below the target for surgery.

I don’t care about her or my emotions about 5 lbs. I care about the surgery.
But my doctor is not doing office visits at this time. So I can’t just show up to be weighed. And they won’t schedule my surgery until I show that I lost 20 lbs total. Before than pandemic, there was this huge pressure to get me scheduled. Now, the attitude seems to be that I’m SOL because I won’t be able to self-confirm my weight.

OP, you have not lost the required amount, nor anywhere near it. You’re not SOL - you have had since the beginning of the pandemic to lose the weight, have gained weight, and have just now lost 25% of the required amount. Self confirming a minimal partial loss has nothing to do with it, and like PPs have noted, this sounds emotional in nature. Your physical is not there to be your weight loss cheering squad, or to hold your hand through the process unless you are looking for medical advice on how to lose weight. She will confirm your weight loss when you have slot 20lbs from the starting weight that she advised you to lose from, period.

If you feel you need validation as part of your weight loss journey, look into something like WW where weigh-ins are part of the process, or an online group where you post your progress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like me, it sounds like you make weight loss very emotionally complicated. That's great that you want to change.

I was really helped by Dr. Judith Beck's weight loss books. Helps you get into the mindset of keeping it off forever.

Good luck.

Not even sure how to respond. This has nothing to do with emotions. I need to be a certain weight to have surgery.

the journey between here (obesity) and there (low enough weight for surgery) is about emotions in large part because it is often emotions that are driving us to eat.

I think your doctor is pretty emotionally insensitive for refusing to record your self-reported weight loss, but, truth be told, your doctor doesn’t really care that you lost 5 pounds. The doctor only cares when you show up to be weighed in the office at a weight at or below the target for surgery.

I don’t care about her or my emotions about 5 lbs. I care about the surgery.
But my doctor is not doing office visits at this time. So I can’t just show up to be weighed. And they won’t schedule my surgery until I show that I lost 20 lbs total. Before than pandemic, there was this huge pressure to get me scheduled. Now, the attitude seems to be that I’m SOL because I won’t be able to self-confirm my weight.

OP, you have not lost the required amount, nor anywhere near it. You’re not SOL - you have had since the beginning of the pandemic to lose the weight, have gained weight, and have just now lost 25% of the required amount. Self confirming a minimal partial loss has nothing to do with it, and like PPs have noted, this sounds emotional in nature. Your physical is not there to be your weight loss cheering squad, or to hold your hand through the process unless you are looking for medical advice on how to lose weight. She will confirm your weight loss when you have slot 20lbs from the starting weight that she advised you to lose from, period.

If you feel you need validation as part of your weight loss journey, look into something like WW where weigh-ins are part of the process, or an online group where you post your progress.

I didn’t seek validation. We had a telehealth appointment for her to renew my medication and she reiterated that I needed surgery and asked how the weight loss was going. I told the truth, I lost 10 lbs this month. She said it could not be recorded because it was self-report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like me, it sounds like you make weight loss very emotionally complicated. That's great that you want to change.

I was really helped by Dr. Judith Beck's weight loss books. Helps you get into the mindset of keeping it off forever.

Good luck.

Not even sure how to respond. This has nothing to do with emotions. I need to be a certain weight to have surgery.

the journey between here (obesity) and there (low enough weight for surgery) is about emotions in large part because it is often emotions that are driving us to eat.

I think your doctor is pretty emotionally insensitive for refusing to record your self-reported weight loss, but, truth be told, your doctor doesn’t really care that you lost 5 pounds. The doctor only cares when you show up to be weighed in the office at a weight at or below the target for surgery.

I don’t care about her or my emotions about 5 lbs. I care about the surgery.
But my doctor is not doing office visits at this time. So I can’t just show up to be weighed. And they won’t schedule my surgery until I show that I lost 20 lbs total. Before than pandemic, there was this huge pressure to get me scheduled. Now, the attitude seems to be that I’m SOL because I won’t be able to self-confirm my weight.

OP, you have not lost the required amount, nor anywhere near it. You’re not SOL - you have had since the beginning of the pandemic to lose the weight, have gained weight, and have just now lost 25% of the required amount. Self confirming a minimal partial loss has nothing to do with it, and like PPs have noted, this sounds emotional in nature. Your physical is not there to be your weight loss cheering squad, or to hold your hand through the process unless you are looking for medical advice on how to lose weight. She will confirm your weight loss when you have slot 20lbs from the starting weight that she advised you to lose from, period.

If you feel you need validation as part of your weight loss journey, look into something like WW where weigh-ins are part of the process, or an online group where you post your progress.

I didn’t seek validation. We had a telehealth appointment for her to renew my medication and she reiterated that I needed surgery and asked how the weight loss was going. I told the truth, I lost 10 lbs this month. She said it could not be recorded because it was self-report.

Okay... but does it change anything?

You also seem fixated on the “this month” amount instead of the 5 from the original weight.

From your defensive answers, I feel like there is more going on that you’re not likely to share, like having a history of non compliance or treatment seeking.

If you feel you are not getting the medical care you deserve, then search for a new surgeon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because even if she writes it down today you could gain it all back and then some before your next in person appointment (I assume the surgery won’t be scheduled via phone/video). Focus on losing the next 5 pounds and at least maintaining that loss for a while.

??? The scheduling is by phone. The surgery itself will be in person, but the procedures are scheduled via a phone call.

I can’t be scheduled until I qualify by weight. I won’t be allowed to self-confirm that I qualify by weight or send a photo of me on the scale. But I also can’t come in for a weight check.

Your doctor will allow you to come in for a weight check when you have lost the 20 pounds and if, at the time you have lost 20 pounds, hospitals are open for elective surgery.

I don’t understand what impact you think it will have to record the partial weight loss in your official medical history? Do you think they will schedule you when you are “close” to the target weight? Does the fact that they won’t accept your self-reported weight loss now make you afraid that when you do get down to the target weight, they won’t believe you or offer a way forward? What is driving your focus on the failure to record partial weight loss?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like me, it sounds like you make weight loss very emotionally complicated. That's great that you want to change.

I was really helped by Dr. Judith Beck's weight loss books. Helps you get into the mindset of keeping it off forever.

Good luck.

Not even sure how to respond. This has nothing to do with emotions. I need to be a certain weight to have surgery.

the journey between here (obesity) and there (low enough weight for surgery) is about emotions in large part because it is often emotions that are driving us to eat.

I think your doctor is pretty emotionally insensitive for refusing to record your self-reported weight loss, but, truth be told, your doctor doesn’t really care that you lost 5 pounds. The doctor only cares when you show up to be weighed in the office at a weight at or below the target for surgery.

I don’t care about her or my emotions about 5 lbs. I care about the surgery.
But my doctor is not doing office visits at this time. So I can’t just show up to be weighed. And they won’t schedule my surgery until I show that I lost 20 lbs total. Before than pandemic, there was this huge pressure to get me scheduled. Now, the attitude seems to be that I’m SOL because I won’t be able to self-confirm my weight.

OP, you have not lost the required amount, nor anywhere near it. You’re not SOL - you have had since the beginning of the pandemic to lose the weight, have gained weight, and have just now lost 25% of the required amount. Self confirming a minimal partial loss has nothing to do with it, and like PPs have noted, this sounds emotional in nature. Your physical is not there to be your weight loss cheering squad, or to hold your hand through the process unless you are looking for medical advice on how to lose weight. She will confirm your weight loss when you have slot 20lbs from the starting weight that she advised you to lose from, period.

If you feel you need validation as part of your weight loss journey, look into something like WW where weigh-ins are part of the process, or an online group where you post your progress.

I didn’t seek validation. We had a telehealth appointment for her to renew my medication and she reiterated that I needed surgery and asked how the weight loss was going. I told the truth, I lost 10 lbs this month. She said it could not be recorded because it was self-report.

Okay... but does it change anything?

You also seem fixated on the “this month” amount instead of the 5 from the original weight.

From your defensive answers, I feel like there is more going on that you’re not likely to share, like having a history of non compliance or treatment seeking.

If you feel you are not getting the medical care you deserve, then search for a new surgeon.

You are really projecting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because even if she writes it down today you could gain it all back and then some before your next in person appointment (I assume the surgery won’t be scheduled via phone/video). Focus on losing the next 5 pounds and at least maintaining that loss for a while.

??? The scheduling is by phone. The surgery itself will be in person, but the procedures are scheduled via a phone call.

I can’t be scheduled until I qualify by weight. I won’t be allowed to self-confirm that I qualify by weight or send a photo of me on the scale. But I also can’t come in for a weight check.

Your doctor will allow you to come in for a weight check when you have lost the 20 pounds and if, at the time you have lost 20 pounds, hospitals are open for elective surgery.

I don’t understand what impact you think it will have to record the partial weight loss in your official medical history? Do you think they will schedule you when you are “close” to the target weight? Does the fact that they won’t accept your self-reported weight loss now make you afraid that when you do get down to the target weight, they won’t believe you or offer a way forward? What is driving your focus on the failure to record partial weight loss?

Before the pandemic, they recorded my weight every month, documenting the weight I lost before the shutdown. Even if the difference was just 2-3 lbs lost, it’s on my digital chart. If it was important then, why isn’t it important now?

It’s not that I don’t think they will believe me, it’s that the proof I know I can provide won’t tick the box and they have not offered an alternative method. Before, it was always such a clear path —weight check at the start of the office visit will trigger a call from the scheduler once you hit weight X. There’s not a in person visit between the scheduler and the procedure. I would love to hear the work around since I think I will hit weight X in the next 6-8 weeks, but the office probably won’t do in person visits yet.

Maybe I should have posted this in health and medicine?

[Anonymous]

OP, you are focusing on the wrong thing. The doctor telling you that she can't record your current weight on your chart from a self-report does not mean that she doesn't acknowledge your progress and it doesn't mean the weight loss didn't happen. It just means she can't record it on the chart because that's their policy.

You need to keep your eyes on the prize - which is additional weight loss to qualify for surgery and generally be a healthier person. It does not matter AT ALL whether you chart is showing some interim weight reading.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because even if she writes it down today you could gain it all back and then some before your next in person appointment (I assume the surgery won’t be scheduled via phone/video). Focus on losing the next 5 pounds and at least maintaining that loss for a while.

??? The scheduling is by phone. The surgery itself will be in person, but the procedures are scheduled via a phone call.

I can’t be scheduled until I qualify by weight. I won’t be allowed to self-confirm that I qualify by weight or send a photo of me on the scale. But I also can’t come in for a weight check.

Your doctor will allow you to come in for a weight check when you have lost the 20 pounds and if, at the time you have lost 20 pounds, hospitals are open for elective surgery.

I don’t understand what impact you think it will have to record the partial weight loss in your official medical history? Do you think they will schedule you when you are “close” to the target weight? Does the fact that they won’t accept your self-reported weight loss now make you afraid that when you do get down to the target weight, they won’t believe you or offer a way forward? What is driving your focus on the failure to record partial weight loss?

Before the pandemic, they recorded my weight every month, documenting the weight I lost before the shutdown. Even if the difference was just 2-3 lbs lost, it’s on my digital chart. If it was important then, why isn’t it important now?

It’s not that I don’t think they will believe me, it’s that the proof I know I can provide won’t tick the box and they have not offered an alternative method. Before, it was always such a clear path —weight check at the start of the office visit will trigger a call from the scheduler once you hit weight X. There’s not a in person visit between the scheduler and the procedure. I would love to hear the work around since I think I will hit weight X in the next 6-8 weeks, but the office probably won’t do in person visits yet.

Maybe I should have posted this in health and medicine?

Ask your doctor this question. That is the only way you will have it answered accurately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My doctor will not record it on my chart although I sent a photo of me standing on the scale.

Some background. I am obese. I needed to lose weight to have surgery (not weight loss). I started out well, but gained it all back plus 5 lbs in the lockdown. I got serious in August and lost 10 lbs. My doctor does telehealth visits only currently so I can’t weigh in at her office.

I get that really I only weigh 5 lbs less than I did when she told me to lose weight initially. I’m really at a loss for why she wouldn’t want to put that loss in my chart, even as a self-report. Any ideas?

Isn't your current weight (or weight right before they approve surgery) what matters most? Or is it the total cumlative weight loss that matters or the absolute number?
Good luck!

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So weird. I had a telehealth appointment with my primary and I was not asked my weight. At all. Clearly, during my appoitnments in person they usually weigh me.
I was asked, not weight, when I went to a specialist 3 weeks ago, and assistant just wrote down my new weight. I weigh 8 lbs less than my appotinment 3 years ago. It was a male assistant, if that makes any difference. Were you asked for your weight? How odd if you were asked and then they refused to write it down. What was the point of asking then?