2020 AP results are out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids don't have to take the AP exams. That's optional. And the point of taking AP classes themselves is not simply to obtain college credit but to have a more challenging and rigorous curriculum, especially in public high schools.

At my kid's well-regarded public high school, the "honors" English 11 curriculum requires reading four books a year. That's one book a quarter. And as I recall one of those books was Jon Krakauer's Into the Wild (not exactly War and Peace). Even if my kid had gotten a 1 or a 2 on the AP Lit or AP Lang test itself, it still would have been better to have taken the AP English over the honors English.

Sadly, I don't think my DD's AP Lit class read even 4 novels. They mostly read short stories. Oh well, I'll invite her to Book Club when she's a young adult.

My dd didn’t take the AP lit exam because they literally wrote 4 essays the whole year, none of which took place in class. Each were 3-5 pages. That was the only writing they did at all. No revising, editing, etc. And they were some format the teacher seemingly made up, not the ones the CB names. They did read a bunch of novels but it was all 10 question multiple choice quizzes (which the kids had to grade themselves) and discussion.

[Anonymous]

My kid got the same scores he got in previous years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was the bell curve for APUSH

5: 11.8%
4: 19.2%
3: 26.6%
2: 20.4%
1: 21%

This looks similar to 2019 which was:
5: 11.8%
4: 18.4%
3: 23.4%
2: 22.0 %
1: 24.3%

Fewer 1s and 2s may be from students who didn’t think they’d do well and didn’t take the test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was the bell curve for APUSH

5: 11.8%
4: 19.2%
3: 26.6%
2: 20.4%
1: 21%

This looks similar to 2019 which was:
5: 11.8%
4: 18.4%
3: 23.4%
2: 22.0 %
1: 24.3%

Fewer 1s and 2s may be from students who didn’t think they’d do well and didn’t take the test.

It's a relief to see the curve being similar to "regular" years. Of course, College Board would have been highly motivated to make the curve similar to other years...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was the bell curve for APUSH

5: 11.8%
4: 19.2%
3: 26.6%
2: 20.4%
1: 21%

So 2/3 of the test takers will likely never receive credit for their tests (my kid’s “mediocre” college only gives credit for 4s and 5s). Thanks college board and the public school system!

Exact the way it should be.

Reality bites. Students have inflates egos these days because of rampant grade inflation, then when they have to take a real exam, they find out they're just medicore, which comes as a rude awakening. The distribution of scores looks pretty reasonable. The test was designed pretty well. Too many kids get As and Bs for poor quality and mediocre work. We need to back to the days where a C+/- is average work, and As are for outstanding work well above the mean that only about 10% or less of students get. An A by definition means you're doing much better than the median. If everyone in a class gets As, then As no longer really mean As.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was the bell curve for APUSH

5: 11.8%
4: 19.2%
3: 26.6%
2: 20.4%
1: 21%

So 2/3 of the test takers will likely never receive credit for their tests (my kid’s “mediocre” college only gives credit for 4s and 5s). Thanks college board and the public school system!

Exact the way it should be.

Reality bites. Students have inflates egos these days because of rampant grade inflation, then when they have to take a real exam, they find out they're just medicore, which comes as a rude awakening. The distribution of scores looks pretty reasonable. The test was designed pretty well. Too many kids get As and Bs for poor quality and mediocre work. We need to back to the days where a C+/- is average work, and As are for outstanding work well above the mean that only about 10% or less of students get. An A by definition means you're doing much better than the median. If everyone in a class gets As, then As no longer really mean As.

It should be mandatory for schools to severely limit the amount of kids who can take Ap classes then (I know there’s self studying, but the bad students don’t really do that). The high schools should be the bottleneck, not a $100, hours long test.

[Anonymous]

PP here. College Board should not encourage hs kids to take Ap classes who have no chance of getting credit. The fact that they take money from 20%+ of test takers, who they know will fail by definition, is icky to me.

[Anonymous]

Are the distribution scores out for the other tests?

[Anonymous]

This page has been collating them from CollegeBoard tweets:

https://www.totalregistration.net/AP-Exam-Registration-Service/AP-Exam-Score-Distributions.php

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids don't have to take the AP exams. That's optional. And the point of taking AP classes themselves is not simply to obtain college credit but to have a more challenging and rigorous curriculum, especially in public high schools.

At my kid's well-regarded public high school, the "honors" English 11 curriculum requires reading four books a year. That's one book a quarter. And as I recall one of those books was Jon Krakauer's Into the Wild (not exactly War and Peace). Even if my kid had gotten a 1 or a 2 on the AP Lit or AP Lang test itself, it still would have been better to have taken the AP English over the honors English.

It isn’t optional in many private schools. If you take the class, you are required to take the test.

[Anonymous]

My kid’s private HS only allows AP courses in students have a sold A in a previous honors course. My son has only gotten one A in an honors course (they are tons of work) so he is allowed to take one AP course. Previous high performance is a good indicator of future success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid’s private HS only allows AP courses in students have a sold A in a previous honors course. My son has only gotten one A in an honors course (they are tons of work) so he is allowed to take one AP course. Previous high performance is a good indicator of future success.

Thats how it is in my kid's ''average'' public high school. Unfortunately the school's average ap scores aren't good, but my kid did well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid’s private HS only allows AP courses in students have a sold A in a previous honors course. My son has only gotten one A in an honors course (they are tons of work) so he is allowed to take one AP course. Previous high performance is a good indicator of future success.

Thats how it is in my kid's ''average'' public high school. Unfortunately the school's average ap scores aren't good, but my kid did well.

Not in our district. I think it’s only math AP courses that are restricted to certain students. They allow anyone to take any AP class. They also don’t report scores by school. We know why.

[Anonymous]

LCPS?

[Anonymous]

Have all students received their scores? My child hasn’t mentioned getting his.