Camp keeping non-refundable deposit but cancelling camp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are suggesting defaming the camp on the Internet because you paid a nonrefundable deposit and are surprised that it is not being refunded. Go figure, I would have thought people in this area were smarter than that.

Because what they've done may not be legal, because it's abusive. There are already lawsuits filed for preschools who refused to return money despite providing no service.

Just because it's "non-refundable" doesn't mean that in extraordinary circumstances they should keep that money no matter what. Legally, it's a grey zone here.

I would out them on social media, and get other parents to push for a refund as well, and threaten them with a lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are suggesting defaming the camp on the Internet because you paid a nonrefundable deposit and are surprised that it is not being refunded. Go figure, I would have thought people in this area were smarter than that.

Because what they've done may not be legal, because it's abusive. There are already lawsuits filed for preschools who refused to return money despite providing no service.

Just because it's "non-refundable" doesn't mean that in extraordinary circumstances they should keep that money no matter what. Legally, it's a grey zone here.

I would out them on social media, and get other parents to push for a refund as well, and threaten them with a lawsuit.

Nobody will take your case.

[Anonymous]

Oh please, you sound like a spoiled child. You signed up in good faith, they prepared to open sinking the costs, the government forced a closure. The deposit policy was clear. But,sure shell out for legal fees. Litatgation is not a middle class sport. You will ultimately loose. However, I suspect that you are really just bored, hurt that the rules apply to you, and irrationally obsessing.

[Anonymous]

You probably don't want a credit at most places because next year they may all be gone.

I'm sorry, it sucks. But businesses are dying. I can see why they are trying to keep all the cash they have. Even if it sucks. I'm sorry.

[Anonymous]

Agreed.

It’s a lockdown
It’s NOT their choice
I’m not getting my kid’s private school tuition back because they were closed and service was not rendered
You need to get it.
We are ALL loosing $$ to covid 19

[Anonymous]

Are you willing to lose your preschool over this? Your deposit may allow them to pay rent this summer and keep teachers lined up for next fall.

Choose your poison wisely, op.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are suggesting defaming the camp on the Internet because you paid a nonrefundable deposit and are surprised that it is not being refunded. Go figure, I would have thought people in this area were smarter than that.

Because what they've done may not be legal, because it's abusive. There are already lawsuits filed for preschools who refused to return money despite providing no service.

Just because it's "non-refundable" doesn't mean that in extraordinary circumstances they should keep that money no matter what. Legally, it's a grey zone here.

I would out them on social media, and get other parents to push for a refund as well, and threaten them with a lawsuit.

The extraordinary circumstances would actually help their legal case, not hurt it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh please, you sound like a spoiled child. You signed up in good faith, they prepared to open sinking the costs, the government forced a closure. The deposit policy was clear. But,sure shell out for legal fees. Litatgation is not a middle class sport. You will ultimately loose. However, I suspect that you are really just bored, hurt that the rules apply to you, and irrationally obsessing.

What sunk costs? This pandemic has been going on for months. The camp has likely done very little.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are suggesting defaming the camp on the Internet because you paid a nonrefundable deposit and are surprised that it is not being refunded. Go figure, I would have thought people in this area were smarter than that.

Because what they've done may not be legal, because it's abusive. There are already lawsuits filed for preschools who refused to return money despite providing no service.

Just because it's "non-refundable" doesn't mean that in extraordinary circumstances they should keep that money no matter what. Legally, it's a grey zone here.

I would out them on social media, and get other parents to push for a refund as well, and threaten them with a lawsuit.

The extraordinary circumstances would actually help their legal case, not hurt it.

Do you really think that the camp doesn't have a law firm advising them on everything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are suggesting defaming the camp on the Internet because you paid a nonrefundable deposit and are surprised that it is not being refunded. Go figure, I would have thought people in this area were smarter than that.

Because what they've done may not be legal, because it's abusive. There are already lawsuits filed for preschools who refused to return money despite providing no service.

Just because it's "non-refundable" doesn't mean that in extraordinary circumstances they should keep that money no matter what. Legally, it's a grey zone here.

I would out them on social media, and get other parents to push for a refund as well, and threaten them with a lawsuit.

The extraordinary circumstances would actually help their legal case, not hurt it.

Do you really think that the camp doesn't have a law firm advising them on everything?

I was saying that the extraordinary circumstances help the camp’s legal argument - in response to someone who seemed to be taking the opposite position.

But the fact that the company has lawyers advising it is fairly irrelevant. I’ve advised people about their litigation risks on countless issues. Plenty of times clients take a position with significant litigation risk despite being so advised, and their doing so may make complete sense under the circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a non refundable deposit. They don’t have to.

But they should.

No they shouldn't. That's ridiculous. It is nonrefundable for a reason.

+1

Non. Refundable.

[Anonymous]

Full disclosure I am a Clara Barton parent too. In the scheme of things - even having paid throughout the year when we didn’t have school, another $250 is not going to break the bank. Would I prefer not pay? Sure. But I would also not prefer a lot of things these days. This school is an institution and like it or not there are countless administrative costs associated with cancelling. Having been at other preschools I know what a privilege it is to be part of this community - other than that I have no role (ie I am not on the board). But I did feel compelled to weigh in and say keep this in perspective, OP. My guess is that this is about principle and not the $250.

[Anonymous]

If you had put down a non-refundable deposit for someone to renovate your kitchen before the shut down, and now they are unable to do it, would you be quick to say, “oh well, tough luck.” What if they went out of business? Would you not expect to be part of the bankruptcy proceedings as someone owed money for service not provided?

[Anonymous]

No, not really.

[Anonymous]

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