Local clubs agreeing to a mutual non-compete

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"We will support one another as we navigate organizational challenges and will not leverage hardships incurred by clubs during the COVID-19 crisis" DMV United Principle #5

One league (DA) folded because of COVID-19 and other leagues formed or stepped up to offer new options. Affected DA clubs scrambled to take care of their players and families when faced with this doubly unexpected hardship (pandemic and loss of league).

McLean, Loudoun, and VDA are all members of DMV United. From the week leading up to the DA announcement amid closure rumors through today, a lot of ECNL people (clearly from these 3 clubs) have been activists on DCUM trying to take advantage of this hardship to attract players away from former DA clubs at a time when these clubs were most vulnerable. Is that leveraging the hardship of former DA clubs? Seems fairly obvious that it was and continues today.

These 3 clubs should have communicated to their parents and coaches that their club would not try to leverage the DA league closure hardship during the COVID-19 crisis and discourage their parents and coaches from also doing so

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We will support one another as we navigate organizational challenges and will not leverage hardships incurred by clubs during the COVID-19 crisis" DMV United Principle #5

One league (DA) folded because of COVID-19 and other leagues formed or stepped up to offer new options. Affected DA clubs scrambled to take care of their players and families when faced with this doubly unexpected hardship (pandemic and loss of league).

McLean, Loudoun, and VDA are all members of DMV United. From the week leading up to the DA announcement amid closure rumors through today, a lot of ECNL people (clearly from these 3 clubs) have been activists on DCUM trying to take advantage of this hardship to attract players away from former DA clubs at a time when these clubs were most vulnerable. Is that leveraging the hardship of former DA clubs? Seems fairly obvious that it was and continues today.

These 3 clubs should have communicated to their parents and coaches that their club would not try to leverage the DA league closure hardship during the COVID-19 crisis and discourage their parents and coaches from also doing so

Shut up

[Anonymous]

you must not like what you see in the mirror

[Anonymous]

Profiting off the misery of others during a pandemic. Very sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Profiting off the misery of others during a pandemic. Very sad.

Honestly. People say things like this and have no idea what they are talking about. Profiting how? Whose misery? What misery? Are you employed? Making money? Donating everything in need of sustenance to others? If not, stop the scapegoating and appreciate your life and what others do for you instead of carping and sniping about things of which you have no clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Profiting off the misery of others during a pandemic. Very sad.

Honestly. People say things like this and have no idea what they are talking about. Profiting how? Whose misery? What misery? Are you employed? Making money? Donating everything in need of sustenance to others? If not, stop the scapegoating and appreciate your life and what others do for you instead of carping and sniping about things of which you have no clue.

Is "benefiting" a better word than "profiting" for you? Okay. These ECNL clubs are likely to benefit when their club parents/coaches come on DCUM and try to lure away the best players from folded DA clubs, in order to make their clubs stronger and the target DA clubs weaker. This is a potential club benefit occurring during a pandemic when these clubs have publicly claimed they would not leverage the situation to do. If you are one of the proxies who likes to engage in doing this then I can see why you are upset to have this pointed out.

We can cover the short-term and longer-term financial profit issue separately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Profiting off the misery of others during a pandemic. Very sad.

Honestly. People say things like this and have no idea what they are talking about. Profiting how? Whose misery? What misery? Are you employed? Making money? Donating everything in need of sustenance to others? If not, stop the scapegoating and appreciate your life and what others do for you instead of carping and sniping about things of which you have no clue.

Is "benefiting" a better word than "profiting" for you? Okay. These ECNL clubs are likely to benefit when their club parents/coaches come on DCUM and try to lure away the best players from folded DA clubs, in order to make their clubs stronger and the target DA clubs weaker. This is a potential club benefit occurring during a pandemic when these clubs have publicly claimed they would not leverage the situation to do. If you are one of the proxies who likes to engage in doing this then I can see why you are upset to have this pointed out.

We can cover the short-term and longer-term financial profit issue separately.

This is crazy talk. It’s nice for the clubs and coaches but if your kid wants to move clubs it sucks. You want your kid sitting out a year or more (with this pandemic who knows how long) because the clubs say you can not move clubs? That has to be against the law.

It’s great that the clubs are doing everything for their benefit but it is very unfair to the players. What if you are a good player but not a starter at your club because the coach favors another player, your club is load at your position or your kid see better exposure for college at another club. If your kid is u14 he or she may not be able to move clubs till u16? U15 and u16 you are totally screwed.

How about asking what is best for the player...you know the paying customers who now have no choice but to buy your product (and at whatever price because you can not go anywhere else). DCUM is not luring any players aways. Player do what is best for themselves and their family situation. At the da/ecnl level there are only a few clubs to go to and most players are staying put because of the pandemic. No one thinks about making this club stronger or weaker when you are leaving a team. They just want their kid playing and happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Profiting off the misery of others during a pandemic. Very sad.

Honestly. People say things like this and have no idea what they are talking about. Profiting how? Whose misery? What misery? Are you employed? Making money? Donating everything in need of sustenance to others? If not, stop the scapegoating and appreciate your life and what others do for you instead of carping and sniping about things of which you have no clue.

Is "benefiting" a better word than "profiting" for you? Okay. These ECNL clubs are likely to benefit when their club parents/coaches come on DCUM and try to lure away the best players from folded DA clubs, in order to make their clubs stronger and the target DA clubs weaker. This is a potential club benefit occurring during a pandemic when these clubs have publicly claimed they would not leverage the situation to do. If you are one of the proxies who likes to engage in doing this then I can see why you are upset to have this pointed out.

We can cover the short-term and longer-term financial profit issue separately.

What DA clubs folded?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Profiting off the misery of others during a pandemic. Very sad.

Honestly. People say things like this and have no idea what they are talking about. Profiting how? Whose misery? What misery? Are you employed? Making money? Donating everything in need of sustenance to others? If not, stop the scapegoating and appreciate your life and what others do for you instead of carping and sniping about things of which you have no clue.

Is "benefiting" a better word than "profiting" for you? Okay. These ECNL clubs are likely to benefit when their club parents/coaches come on DCUM and try to lure away the best players from folded DA clubs, in order to make their clubs stronger and the target DA clubs weaker. This is a potential club benefit occurring during a pandemic when these clubs have publicly claimed they would not leverage the situation to do. If you are one of the proxies who likes to engage in doing this then I can see why you are upset to have this pointed out.

We can cover the short-term and longer-term financial profit issue separately.

This is crazy talk. It’s nice for the clubs and coaches but if your kid wants to move clubs it sucks. You want your kid sitting out a year or more (with this pandemic who knows how long) because the clubs say you can not move clubs? That has to be against the law.

It’s great that the clubs are doing everything for their benefit but it is very unfair to the players. What if you are a good player but not a starter at your club because the coach favors another player, your club is load at your position or your kid see better exposure for college at another club. If your kid is u14 he or she may not be able to move clubs till u16? U15 and u16 you are totally screwed.

How about asking what is best for the player...you know the paying customers who now have no choice but to buy your product (and at whatever price because you can not go anywhere else). DCUM is not luring any players aways. Player do what is best for themselves and their family situation. At the da/ecnl level there are only a few clubs to go to and most players are staying put because of the pandemic. No one thinks about making this club stronger or weaker when you are leaving a team. They just want their kid playing and happy.

Relax, it’s just a gentlemen’s agreement and has nothing to do with the parents decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Profiting off the misery of others during a pandemic. Very sad.

Honestly. People say things like this and have no idea what they are talking about. Profiting how? Whose misery? What misery? Are you employed? Making money? Donating everything in need of sustenance to others? If not, stop the scapegoating and appreciate your life and what others do for you instead of carping and sniping about things of which you have no clue.

Is "benefiting" a better word than "profiting" for you? Okay. These ECNL clubs are likely to benefit when their club parents/coaches come on DCUM and try to lure away the best players from folded DA clubs, in order to make their clubs stronger and the target DA clubs weaker. This is a potential club benefit occurring during a pandemic when these clubs have publicly claimed they would not leverage the situation to do. If you are one of the proxies who likes to engage in doing this then I can see why you are upset to have this pointed out.

We can cover the short-term and longer-term financial profit issue separately.

What DA clubs folded?

Correction...best players from the clubs of a folded DA league...

[Anonymous]

Perhaps the clubs want to give their current families first rights before they bring in outside players? And perhaps current families are reluctant to commit a few grand due to the uncertainty of a global pandemic?

And perhaps that slows down clubs from responding to outside players?

No. That doesn’t make any sense.

[Anonymous]

Why would 09’s and 08’s “stay for the exposure” with Clyde. These girls are in elementary and middle school? If Clyde is so good with college recruiting McLean should have him coaching high school age kids. I bet he’s on his way to retirement and doesn’t want to deal with all the crazy Mclean parents who think their kid should be playing at UNC when they really belong D2/3. Also I have not heard he is a good developer. You need to get him already developed. This is a mistake for McLean IMO.

This is way off base. Clyde used to coach hs girls and moved down specifically because he is great at developing technical and tactical skills that need to be the foundation at younger ages. He is still able to pick up the phone and call college coaches when those girls are older. The director of coaching at another local ECNL club told a parent of a player who was considering a tryout at McLean and at that other club, that he would love to see that player at tryouts but that if his daughter had a chance to play for Clyde he would take it.

[Anonymous]

From what I am hearing from coaches they are sticking to the agreement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I am hearing from coaches they are sticking to the agreement.

Such a generic statement it has no meaning

[Anonymous]

What does it mean to stick to the agreement? When can people seeking other clubs do so openly? Usually May 1 was the time!!