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Anonymous wrote:DD was accepted with great merit aid. We toured - lovely part of New Orleans.

DD was totally turned off by the dorms. I know - fickle kids. And I wanted to be open minded but I couldn’t pull the trigger on sending my DD to New Orleans.

Years ago I was at an annual sales meeting for a large software company. On of my colleagues called down to the hotel lobby to complain about the noise in an adjoining room early one morning.

Turns out it was one of the subcontracted AV guys being murdered in the room in a ritualistic black magic slaying.

This is not an urban legend.

A lot to like about New Oreans and I liked Tulane.

Not happening.

Do you think Tulane students are at high risk of being exposed to black magic and being murdered ritualistically? This is a serious question.

PP here.

Never in my life did I think anyone I had any remote connection to would be at risk of such an act. And yet it happened. So with all the schools in the world why am I going to send my DD to an environment where I know it's possible. College students are young and by their very nature they lack maturity and my DD did not grow up having to be street smart. New Orleans can be a dangerous city. So short answer as much as I tried to have an open mind - I didn't.

My DD also looked at Fordham and that wasn't happening. My DD does not have the street smarts to be on Fordham Road so why am I going to put her in that environment.

Ironically, I would have been ok with DD attending Columbia or Barnard because we know the area and we would have advised her accordingly. Morningside Heights is quite nice but it's an enclave that is surrounded by some dangerous neighborhoods. And it is sad to say but folks that do not respect that do so at their own peril.

So, to answer your question yes I think Tulane students do have a higher risk than most college students of being the victim of a violent crime.

Knowing what you know,
Why did your DD apply.

Fair question.

1. We were looking for merit aid. And I do think given their level of merit aid Tulane offers an excellent education for a very good price. So, very good value.
2. We went to a local Tulane presentation and frankly, by far, it was the best presentation we attended. By far. It was a young alum who was working in admissions, and she presented very well and did an exceptional job of representing the school.
3. Given the admit stats, I thought the student body would be smart, hard working, and yet not too serious. You could see the stress on the faces of the students at Columbia so we wanted an environment where we would not be worried about the mental health of student body. The students looked completely stressed out at Columbia. At NYU they have a net in the library to prevent kids from jumping to their deaths. When we eventually visited the Tulane students looked like they were having fun.
4. My experiences in New Orleans were from around the year 2000 so I thought perhaps things had changed. We are from the NY metro area and the changes to NYC in the past 15-20 have been substantial. So again wanted to keep an open mind.

In the end we just couldn't make the leap. Life has taught me, through some very tough lessons, that you ignore your gut at your own peril.

So how much more merit aid would Tulane have had to offer for you to put your daughter at risk of being part of a black magic ritualistic slaying? If they upped it to 15k would you have taken the gamble?

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Anonymous wrote:DD was accepted with great merit aid. We toured - lovely part of New Orleans.

DD was totally turned off by the dorms. I know - fickle kids. And I wanted to be open minded but I couldn’t pull the trigger on sending my DD to New Orleans.

Years ago I was at an annual sales meeting for a large software company. On of my colleagues called down to the hotel lobby to complain about the noise in an adjoining room early one morning.

Turns out it was one of the subcontracted AV guys being murdered in the room in a ritualistic black magic slaying.

This is not an urban legend.

A lot to like about New Oreans and I liked Tulane.

Not happening.

Do you think Tulane students are at high risk of being exposed to black magic and being murdered ritualistically? This is a serious question.

PP here.

Never in my life did I think anyone I had any remote connection to would be at risk of such an act. And yet it happened. So with all the schools in the world why am I going to send my DD to an environment where I know it's possible. College students are young and by their very nature they lack maturity and my DD did not grow up having to be street smart. New Orleans can be a dangerous city. So short answer as much as I tried to have an open mind - I didn't.

My DD also looked at Fordham and that wasn't happening. My DD does not have the street smarts to be on Fordham Road so why am I going to put her in that environment.

Ironically, I would have been ok with DD attending Columbia or Barnard because we know the area and we would have advised her accordingly. Morningside Heights is quite nice but it's an enclave that is surrounded by some dangerous neighborhoods. And it is sad to say but folks that do not respect that do so at their own peril.

So, to answer your question yes I think Tulane students do have a higher risk than most college students of being the victim of a violent crime.

Knowing what you know,
Why did your DD apply.

Fair question.

1. We were looking for merit aid. And I do think given their level of merit aid Tulane offers an excellent education for a very good price. So, very good value.
2. We went to a local Tulane presentation and frankly, by far, it was the best presentation we attended. By far. It was a young alum who was working in admissions, and she presented very well and did an exceptional job of representing the school.
3. Given the admit stats, I thought the student body would be smart, hard working, and yet not too serious. You could see the stress on the faces of the students at Columbia so we wanted an environment where we would not be worried about the mental health of student body. The students looked completely stressed out at Columbia. At NYU they have a net in the library to prevent kids from jumping to their deaths. When we eventually visited the Tulane students looked like they were having fun.
4. My experiences in New Orleans were from around the year 2000 so I thought perhaps things had changed. We are from the NY metro area and the changes to NYC in the past 15-20 have been substantial. So again wanted to keep an open mind.

In the end we just couldn't make the leap. Life has taught me, through some very tough lessons, that you ignore your gut at your own peril.

So how much more merit aid would Tulane have had to offer for you to put your daughter at risk of being part of a black magic ritualistic slaying? If they upped it to 15k would you have taken the gamble?

I have attempted to offer my views and some folks have taken them to be racist. I think there is a reality that when college campuses full of the have's are surrounded by the have nots - I don't really give a sh$t what color they are - resentment sets in. You'd beyond naive to not think that's the case. So when the 19 yr old without a pot to piss in and no hope see's the young rich entitled kid walking around with 1000.00 coat, 1000.00 phone, and not a care in the world bad things happen. And I hate to say it but that's what happened at Barnard this year. And often in life there are prey and there are predators. All the way from the streets of NYC to the corner office in the corporate america. It's just a different jungle with a different set of rules and a different set of outcomes.

And for the record I have just as much apprehension for my DDs to go to a school with a bunch of frat bros - that ain't happening either. They are predators - make no mistake about it. And yes that meant that we turned down a couple of highly rated SLACs that gave the wrong vibe. And the same goes for a couple of the service academies.

So that said, had I gone to New Orleans and seen a transformed city - post Katrina (which btw the service orientation espoused by Tulane was also quite compelling) I would have considered it. Tulane were very generous - my DD received 30k in merit - that's a chunk of change - and I thought it made Tulane a compelling value. But we went and we spent the weekend. Listened to some great Jazz. But again, I have learned the hard way to listen to my gut and my gut said no.

You do what you have to do for your kids and I'll do what I have to do for mine.

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Fascinating discussion, but not really based on current realities. DD will graduate this spring (though no on campus ceremony) and not once over the past four years was she the victim of a crime and by the way she is not a big drinker either. Somehow she managed to survive, made good friends, and secured a good job that starts later in the summer (we hope!). Any school not located in a corn field is going to have inherent risk associated with it so while you didn't choose to send your child to Tulane, you don't need to bash the school or make assumptions based on old data or experiences.

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We are very much looking forward to DD attending Tulane next year. The kids seem happy. They gave merit aid even to ED applicants (which obviously they did not have to do). We have met many alumni. I don't think they generally practice voodoo on campus - crazy stuff happens everywhere, and based on statistics, getting murdered by something like the Manson family or a serial killer could happen anywhere - Chicago, LA, Minnesota, Pacific NW, Miami. I understand the bad vibe from that experience, and if I had been next door to a murder in any city, I would probably not want to return, nor have my kids return for any reason. Tulane is a great school, with happy kids, where -- like at any school -- some of whom drink and some don't. They do not have a larger problem with alcohol than any other school including UVA, Georgetown, and UMD, just to pick a few from the DMV. Better to have an interesting city with a lot of fun festivals and music than to be stuck at a boring SLAC where there is nothing to do in the winter besides drink ...

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Anonymous wrote:Fascinating discussion, but not really based on current realities. DD will graduate this spring (though no on campus ceremony) and not once over the past four years was she the victim of a crime and by the way she is not a big drinker either. Somehow she managed to survive, made good friends, and secured a good job that starts later in the summer (we hope!). Any school not located in a corn field is going to have inherent risk associated with it so while you didn't choose to send your child to Tulane, you don't need to bash the school or make assumptions based on old data or experiences.

So she somehow managed to avoid black magic ritualistic violence?

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Isn’t easy to get violent crime report in the college neighborhood from the police?

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Anonymous wrote:We are very much looking forward to DD attending Tulane next year. The kids seem happy. They gave merit aid even to ED applicants (which obviously they did not have to do). We have met many alumni. I don't think they generally practice voodoo on campus - crazy stuff happens everywhere, and based on statistics, getting murdered by something like the Manson family or a serial killer could happen anywhere - Chicago, LA, Minnesota, Pacific NW, Miami. I understand the bad vibe from that experience, and if I had been next door to a murder in any city, I would probably not want to return, nor have my kids return for any reason. Tulane is a great school, with happy kids, where -- like at any school -- some of whom drink and some don't. They do not have a larger problem with alcohol than any other school including UVA, Georgetown, and UMD, just to pick a few from the DMV. Better to have an interesting city with a lot of fun festivals and music than to be stuck at a boring SLAC where there is nothing to do in the winter besides drink ...

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Anonymous wrote:DD was accepted with great merit aid. We toured - lovely part of New Orleans.

DD was totally turned off by the dorms. I know - fickle kids. And I wanted to be open minded but I couldn’t pull the trigger on sending my DD to New Orleans.

Years ago I was at an annual sales meeting for a large software company. On of my colleagues called down to the hotel lobby to complain about the noise in an adjoining room early one morning.

Turns out it was one of the subcontracted AV guys being murdered in the room in a ritualistic black magic slaying.

This is not an urban legend.

A lot to like about New Oreans and I liked Tulane.

Not happening.

Do you think Tulane students are at high risk of being exposed to black magic and being murdered ritualistically? This is a serious question.

PP here.

Never in my life did I think anyone I had any remote connection to would be at risk of such an act. And yet it happened. So with all the schools in the world why am I going to send my DD to an environment where I know it's possible. College students are young and by their very nature they lack maturity and my DD did not grow up having to be street smart. New Orleans can be a dangerous city. So short answer as much as I tried to have an open mind - I didn't.

My DD also looked at Fordham and that wasn't happening. My DD does not have the street smarts to be on Fordham Road so why am I going to put her in that environment.

Ironically, I would have been ok with DD attending Columbia or Barnard because we know the area and we would have advised her accordingly. Morningside Heights is quite nice but it's an enclave that is surrounded by some dangerous neighborhoods. And it is sad to say but folks that do not respect that do so at their own peril.

So, to answer your question yes I think Tulane students do have a higher risk than most college students of being the victim of a violent crime.

Knowing what you know,
Why did your DD apply.

Fair question.

1. We were looking for merit aid. And I do think given their level of merit aid Tulane offers an excellent education for a very good price. So, very good value.
2. We went to a local Tulane presentation and frankly, by far, it was the best presentation we attended. By far. It was a young alum who was working in admissions, and she presented very well and did an exceptional job of representing the school.
3. Given the admit stats, I thought the student body would be smart, hard working, and yet not too serious. You could see the stress on the faces of the students at Columbia so we wanted an environment where we would not be worried about the mental health of student body. The students looked completely stressed out at Columbia. At NYU they have a net in the library to prevent kids from jumping to their deaths. When we eventually visited the Tulane students looked like they were having fun.
4. My experiences in New Orleans were from around the year 2000 so I thought perhaps things had changed. We are from the NY metro area and the changes to NYC in the past 15-20 have been substantial. So again wanted to keep an open mind.

In the end we just couldn't make the leap. Life has taught me, through some very tough lessons, that you ignore your gut at your own peril.

So how much more merit aid would Tulane have had to offer for you to put your daughter at risk of being part of a black magic ritualistic slaying? If they upped it to 15k would you have taken the gamble?

I have attempted to offer my views and some folks have taken them to be racist. I think there is a reality that when college campuses full of the have's are surrounded by the have nots - I don't really give a sh$t what color they are - resentment sets in. You'd beyond naive to not think that's the case. So when the 19 yr old without a pot to piss in and no hope see's the young rich entitled kid walking around with 1000.00 coat, 1000.00 phone, and not a care in the world bad things happen. And I hate to say it but that's what happened at Barnard this year. And often in life there are prey and there are predators. All the way from the streets of NYC to the corner office in the corporate america. It's just a different jungle with a different set of rules and a different set of outcomes.

And for the record I have just as much apprehension for my DDs to go to a school with a bunch of frat bros - that ain't happening either. They are predators - make no mistake about it. And yes that meant that we turned down a couple of highly rated SLACs that gave the wrong vibe. And the same goes for a couple of the service academies.

So that said, had I gone to New Orleans and seen a transformed city - post Katrina (which btw the service orientation espoused by Tulane was also quite compelling) I would have considered it. Tulane were very generous - my DD received 30k in merit - that's a chunk of change - and I thought it made Tulane a compelling value. But we went and we spent the weekend. Listened to some great Jazz. But again, I have learned the hard way to listen to my gut and my gut said no.

You do what you have to do for your kids and I'll do what I have to do for mine.

Jesus Christ. So schools in big cities with rough areas (which means all big cities), schools with frats, and schools with military dudes are all off your list. Where is your delicate baby allowed to go to college? Sorry to say that there aren't any higher education opportunities in your basement, at least not ones that compare with Tulane.

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Party !

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think so many STA boys end up at Tulane. It's the third highest school attended by graduates (13 in 5 years).

Visi has also "discovered" Tulane.

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What kind of stats are getting these $30K merit aid awards? My kid is interested, but I thought to rule it out based on cost. She has tons of extracurriculars, even during COVID, good leadership experience, unweighted 4.0 and 33 ACT (low by DCUM standards

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Anonymous wrote:DD was accepted with great merit aid. We toured - lovely part of New Orleans.

DD was totally turned off by the dorms. I know - fickle kids. And I wanted to be open minded but I couldn’t pull the trigger on sending my DD to New Orleans.

Years ago I was at an annual sales meeting for a large software company. On of my colleagues called down to the hotel lobby to complain about the noise in an adjoining room early one morning.

Turns out it was one of the subcontracted AV guys being murdered in the room in a ritualistic black magic slaying.

This is not an urban legend.

A lot to like about New Oreans and I liked Tulane.

Not happening.

Do you think Tulane students are at high risk of being exposed to black magic and being murdered ritualistically? This is a serious question.

PP here.

Never in my life did I think anyone I had any remote connection to would be at risk of such an act. And yet it happened. So with all the schools in the world why am I going to send my DD to an environment where I know it's possible. College students are young and by their very nature they lack maturity and my DD did not grow up having to be street smart. New Orleans can be a dangerous city. So short answer as much as I tried to have an open mind - I didn't.

My DD also looked at Fordham and that wasn't happening. My DD does not have the street smarts to be on Fordham Road so why am I going to put her in that environment.

Ironically, I would have been ok with DD attending Columbia or Barnard because we know the area and we would have advised her accordingly. Morningside Heights is quite nice but it's an enclave that is surrounded by some dangerous neighborhoods. And it is sad to say but folks that do not respect that do so at their own peril.

So, to answer your question yes I think Tulane students do have a higher risk than most college students of being the victim of a violent crime.

Knowing what you know,
Why did your DD apply.

Fair question.

1. We were looking for merit aid. And I do think given their level of merit aid Tulane offers an excellent education for a very good price. So, very good value.
2. We went to a local Tulane presentation and frankly, by far, it was the best presentation we attended. By far. It was a young alum who was working in admissions, and she presented very well and did an exceptional job of representing the school.
3. Given the admit stats, I thought the student body would be smart, hard working, and yet not too serious. You could see the stress on the faces of the students at Columbia so we wanted an environment where we would not be worried about the mental health of student body. The students looked completely stressed out at Columbia. At NYU they have a net in the library to prevent kids from jumping to their deaths. When we eventually visited the Tulane students looked like they were having fun.
4. My experiences in New Orleans were from around the year 2000 so I thought perhaps things had changed. We are from the NY metro area and the changes to NYC in the past 15-20 have been substantial. So again wanted to keep an open mind.

In the end we just couldn't make the leap. Life has taught me, through some very tough lessons, that you ignore your gut at your own peril.

So how much more merit aid would Tulane have had to offer for you to put your daughter at risk of being part of a black magic ritualistic slaying? If they upped it to 15k would you have taken the gamble?

I have attempted to offer my views and some folks have taken them to be racist. I think there is a reality that when college campuses full of the have's are surrounded by the have nots - I don't really give a sh$t what color they are - resentment sets in. You'd beyond naive to not think that's the case. So when the 19 yr old without a pot to piss in and no hope see's the young rich entitled kid walking around with 1000.00 coat, 1000.00 phone, and not a care in the world bad things happen. And I hate to say it but that's what happened at Barnard this year. And often in life there are prey and there are predators. All the way from the streets of NYC to the corner office in the corporate america. It's just a different jungle with a different set of rules and a different set of outcomes.

And for the record I have just as much apprehension for my DDs to go to a school with a bunch of frat bros - that ain't happening either. They are predators - make no mistake about it. And yes that meant that we turned down a couple of highly rated SLACs that gave the wrong vibe. And the same goes for a couple of the service academies.

So that said, had I gone to New Orleans and seen a transformed city - post Katrina (which btw the service orientation espoused by Tulane was also quite compelling) I would have considered it. Tulane were very generous - my DD received 30k in merit - that's a chunk of change - and I thought it made Tulane a compelling value. But we went and we spent the weekend. Listened to some great Jazz. But again, I have learned the hard way to listen to my gut and my gut said no.

You do what you have to do for your kids and I'll do what I have to do for mine.

Jesus Christ. So schools in big cities with rough areas (which means all big cities), schools with frats, and schools with military dudes are all off your list. Where is your delicate baby allowed to go to college? Sorry to say that there aren't any higher education opportunities in your basement, at least not ones that compare with Tulane.

Right! I'm sure there is an aversion to sports in there too, I mean why not? They could just live at mommy's house and do Southern New Hampshire University online maybe?

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I went to Tulane because they gave me a great scholarship. I'm a foreigner so had no idea about NOLA- this was pre-Katrina. Imagine my surprise landing at NOLA!

I loved every moment I spent at Tulane. I was (still am) in love with the city and how there was music everywhere. Yes, there were tons of parties, and yes, we did do things we shouldn't have done. But, 15+ years out, I wouldn't change a single thing about my experience.

Would I want my children to go to Tulane? I don't know. Hopefully, they will not be in a position to need aid like I did. But if we were deciding between someplace like Mount Holyoke or Denison or some other small town school like that, I would *hand down* choose Tulane. If my child can attend a school that's ranked 10 places higher than Tulane, I would send them to the better ranked school. If not, the cultural aspect of the school and the city (in my opinion) are a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

In terms of academics/career, I have friends who've done really well, and some that have not. I think that's true for most schools. I ended up going to a T14 law school and am a lawyer now. And I am dreaming of moving to NOLA the day I retire.

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Any school not located in a corn field is going to have inherent risk associated with it

Our family is terrified of colleges surrounded by cornfields.
Urban it is! Different strokes, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not send my child to college in New Orleans. How many grads end up alcoholics?

I went to Tulane and don't personally know of any.