Can you discriminate on religion when hiring a caregiver

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is not "discrimination," OP, at least in legal terms.

I can state that I want a nanny who is 5'5" tall, has red hair and likes to sing. Is it "discrimination" if you want the job and don't fit the criteria.

Sorry this "rubs you the wrong way." You really need to get out more.


Religion is a protected class. You cannot advertise that want a nanny who is white, correct?


Exactly who is going to stop me, OP? I can advertise for anything I want.


If you are acting as a household employer in DC, you can't advertise for whatever you want.

"In addition to federal and state laws, household employers must also comply with local laws, which often supersede federal and state laws. For example, in Washington, D.C., the DC Human Rights Act applies to all employers, even those with just one employee. It prohibits discrimination based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibilities, genetic information, disability, matriculation, or political affiliation."

https://gtm.com/household/prevent-discrimination/


Ha! Good luck enforcing that one. I assure you that as a parent hiring a nanny, I would be the most discriminatory employer you have ever seen. I absolutely can and will turn away any candidate who does not meet my preferences in the areas listed above, and others.


It's not "enforcement" idiot. It's a justiciable issue. Someone could sue you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Title VII (employment discrimination law) only applies to employers with 15 or more employees. While some state or local laws may apply to employers of fewer employees, I doubt any would apply to an individual hiring a caregiver in their home. It's definitely off-putting, but when it comes to a nanny, is this any different than sending a child to a Christian or other religious school? I mean, they may actually be looking for some early religious education from the nanny. I'm an atheist, so it isn't something in which I would be interested, but I can see legitimate reasons for someone else to have this preference/requirement.


My bad. The DC Human Rights Act applies to employers of one employee.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not "discrimination," OP, at least in legal terms.

I can state that I want a nanny who is 5'5" tall, has red hair and likes to sing. Is it "discrimination" if you want the job and don't fit the criteria.

Sorry this "rubs you the wrong way." You really need to get out more.


Religion is a protected class. You cannot advertise that want a nanny who is white, correct?


Exactly who is going to stop me, OP? I can advertise for anything I want.


If you are acting as a household employer in DC, you can't advertise for whatever you want.

"In addition to federal and state laws, household employers must also comply with local laws, which often supersede federal and state laws. For example, in Washington, D.C., the DC Human Rights Act applies to all employers, even those with just one employee. It prohibits discrimination based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibilities, genetic information, disability, matriculation, or political affiliation."

https://gtm.com/household/prevent-discrimination/


Ha! Good luck enforcing that one. I assure you that as a parent hiring a nanny, I would be the most discriminatory employer you have ever seen. I absolutely can and will turn away any candidate who does not meet my preferences in the areas listed above, and others.


It's not "enforcement" idiot. It's a justiciable issue. Someone could sue you.


Honey, anyone can sue anyone for anything they want to. Good luck trying to prove anything.

OP, you really need to get a life if this is the kind of thing that has you so worked up. i, personally, commend the advertiser for stating preferences so clearly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not "discrimination," OP, at least in legal terms.

I can state that I want a nanny who is 5'5" tall, has red hair and likes to sing. Is it "discrimination" if you want the job and don't fit the criteria.

Sorry this "rubs you the wrong way." You really need to get out more.


Religion is a protected class. You cannot advertise that want a nanny who is white, correct?


Exactly who is going to stop me, OP? I can advertise for anything I want.


No, you cannot.

https://gtm.com/household/prevent-discrimination/
Local Laws
In addition to federal and state laws, household employers must also comply with local laws, which often supersede federal and state laws. For example, in Washington, D.C., the DC Human Rights Act applies to all employers, even those with just one employee. It prohibits discrimination based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibilities, genetic information, disability, matriculation, or political affiliation.


And any platform you use that has broad reach will not accept your add. Craigslist will take it down, as will any newspaper advertisement sections (where these still exist).
Anonymous
I have no idea but I can certainly see you wanting somebody who values and morals are the same as yours for raising your children. Whether it’s Christian, LGBT, kosher, Muslim, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not "discrimination," OP, at least in legal terms.

I can state that I want a nanny who is 5'5" tall, has red hair and likes to sing. Is it "discrimination" if you want the job and don't fit the criteria.

Sorry this "rubs you the wrong way." You really need to get out more.


Religion is a protected class. You cannot advertise that want a nanny who is white, correct?


Exactly who is going to stop me, OP? I can advertise for anything I want.


No, you cannot.

https://gtm.com/household/prevent-discrimination/
Local Laws
In addition to federal and state laws, household employers must also comply with local laws, which often supersede federal and state laws. For example, in Washington, D.C., the DC Human Rights Act applies to all employers, even those with just one employee. It prohibits discrimination based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibilities, genetic information, disability, matriculation, or political affiliation.


And any platform you use that has broad reach will not accept your add. Craigslist will take it down, as will any newspaper advertisement sections (where these still exist).


Great;that's their perogative. Just like it's my perogative to actively seek a person who fits my criteria in the person that I hire.
Anonymous
Same as someone might only want a female nanny.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not "discrimination," OP, at least in legal terms.

I can state that I want a nanny who is 5'5" tall, has red hair and likes to sing. Is it "discrimination" if you want the job and don't fit the criteria.

Sorry this "rubs you the wrong way." You really need to get out more.


Religion is a protected class. You cannot advertise that want a nanny who is white, correct?


Exactly who is going to stop me, OP? I can advertise for anything I want.


If you are acting as a household employer in DC, you can't advertise for whatever you want.

"In addition to federal and state laws, household employers must also comply with local laws, which often supersede federal and state laws. For example, in Washington, D.C., the DC Human Rights Act applies to all employers, even those with just one employee. It prohibits discrimination based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibilities, genetic information, disability, matriculation, or political affiliation."

https://gtm.com/household/prevent-discrimination/


Ha! Good luck enforcing that one. I assure you that as a parent hiring a nanny, I would be the most discriminatory employer you have ever seen. I absolutely can and will turn away any candidate who does not meet my preferences in the areas listed above, and others.



It's not "enforcement" idiot. It's a justiciable issue. Someone could sue you.


Honey, anyone can sue anyone for anything they want to. Good luck trying to prove anything.

OP, you really need to get a life if this is the kind of thing that has you so worked up. i, personally, commend the advertiser for stating preferences so clearly.


No you cannot, "honey".
Anonymous
Most employers are smart enough to state what they want done, and the people who naturally are most enthusiastic about it are the ones who have the same values.

Ex: We want a nanny who will say grace before meals, read specific religious books to our children, agree not to read books about xyz topic that violates our religion and take our children to Sunday school, confirmation class and/or other religious classes or services. Naturally, the nanny most enthusiastic about doing these is one who likely identifies as Christian, and most likely shares their denomination.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Same as someone might only want a female nanny.


Yeah, it's similarly illegal in DC.

I love the arrogance among these posters who actually have no idea what they're talking about. Local laws in some places--including DC--absolutely bar household employers from discriminating on the basis of protected classes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most employers are smart enough to state what they want done, and the people who naturally are most enthusiastic about it are the ones who have the same values.

Ex: We want a nanny who will say grace before meals, read specific religious books to our children, agree not to read books about xyz topic that violates our religion and take our children to Sunday school, confirmation class and/or other religious classes or services. Naturally, the nanny most enthusiastic about doing these is one who likely identifies as Christian, and most likely shares their denomination.


And you know what? That's illegal in DC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not "discrimination," OP, at least in legal terms.

I can state that I want a nanny who is 5'5" tall, has red hair and likes to sing. Is it "discrimination" if you want the job and don't fit the criteria.

Sorry this "rubs you the wrong way." You really need to get out more.


Religion is a protected class. You cannot advertise that want a nanny who is white, correct?


Exactly who is going to stop me, OP? I can advertise for anything I want.


No, you cannot.

https://gtm.com/household/prevent-discrimination/
Local Laws
In addition to federal and state laws, household employers must also comply with local laws, which often supersede federal and state laws. For example, in Washington, D.C., the DC Human Rights Act applies to all employers, even those with just one employee. It prohibits discrimination based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibilities, genetic information, disability, matriculation, or political affiliation.


And any platform you use that has broad reach will not accept your add. Craigslist will take it down, as will any newspaper advertisement sections (where these still exist).


Great;that's their perogative. Just like it's my perogative to actively seek a person who fits my criteria in the person that I hire.


it's actually not if you live in DC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Same as someone might only want a female nanny.


Actually, that’s much harder to work around without discriminating. It’s much easier to state that they want a male role model for young children, as men in childcare are the minority. If you only want a female nanny, but don’t want to break laws, your best bet is to simply advertise for a nanny, and pick your best candidate, who is likely to be female.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most employers are smart enough to state what they want done, and the people who naturally are most enthusiastic about it are the ones who have the same values.

Ex: We want a nanny who will say grace before meals, read specific religious books to our children, agree not to read books about xyz topic that violates our religion and take our children to Sunday school, confirmation class and/or other religious classes or services. Naturally, the nanny most enthusiastic about doing these is one who likely identifies as Christian, and most likely shares their denomination.


And you know what? That's illegal in DC.


Are you sure? I think the example in the OP is definitely against DC law, but the example PP gives? Trying to whittle down the applicant pool by describing the tasks?

Is that different than if I advertised "Two mom family seeking local nanny" in the hopes that it would discourage homophobes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not "discrimination," OP, at least in legal terms.

I can state that I want a nanny who is 5'5" tall, has red hair and likes to sing. Is it "discrimination" if you want the job and don't fit the criteria.

Sorry this "rubs you the wrong way." You really need to get out more.


Religion is a protected class. You cannot advertise that want a nanny who is white, correct?


I have seen a million posts on dcum of people asking for a doctor or nurse or whatever who is black.
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