Sedan / family electric cars (Not Tesla)

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I would love to switch to all electric, but I worry about the general maintenance. Can anyone speak to that?

NP with a Tesla and it’s minimal because the cars are much simpler: no fluids, no ICE, etc. There’s just not as much to maintain.

Same. We have had an all electric Chevrolet for the past 3.5 years and we have rotated the tires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are road warriors. On family vacations, we just want to get to our destination, so a 600 mile or more day is not unusual. Trips to drop off and pickup the college kids are also same day roundtrips totaling over 500 miles. For this reason alone, I'm out. Do you EV people just not drive like we do?

We drive our EV about 3500 miles/year. It’s perfect for how we use it. Most people have a second car that can be used for road trips. For longer trips we drive our Volt and it only gets driven about 5500 miles/year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious why no Tesla? We’ve had one for 3 years & just added a second one. Literally not one single issue ever in a bit over 3 years.

OP Nothing really against Tesla's as they seem really nice. It just seems high end for me, someone who doesn't drive much (weekday about 5 miles/day, weekends may be 50 or so/day). So I was looking for something at a lower cost level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I would love to switch to all electric, but I worry about the general maintenance. Can anyone speak to that?

NP with a Tesla and it’s minimal because the cars are much simpler: no fluids, no ICE, etc. There’s just not as much to maintain.

Teslas certainly do have battery coolant, and I would guess a pump to circulate it, and seals and hoses that could leak.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would love to switch to all electric, but I worry about the general maintenance. Can anyone speak to that?

NP with a Tesla and it’s minimal because the cars are much simpler: no fluids, no ICE, etc. There’s just not as much to maintain.

Teslas certainly do have battery coolant, and I would guess a pump to circulate it, and seals and hoses that could leak.

Don't be disingenuous. It's much simpler to maintain than an ICE car. It's not that they're no maintenance, but generally, yes, they are easier to maintain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why no Tesla? We’ve had one for 3 years & just added a second one. Literally not one single issue ever in a bit over 3 years.

OP Nothing really against Tesla's as they seem really nice. It just seems high end for me, someone who doesn't drive much (weekday about 5 miles/day, weekends may be 50 or so/day). So I was looking for something at a lower cost level.

Are you willing to look at used vehicles or do you want new? How about something like the SoulEV or SparkEV?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Full EV? There is the Hyundai Ioniq Electric, Chevy Bolt, the Hyundai Kona Electric and Kia Niro (more of a crossover).

I guess the Ioniq is the sedan out of that bunch.

I want the Kona but it's $$$$ - almost the same as the Tesla. And $20k more than the ICE version which seems ludicrous.

Yeah, I looked at the Kona before buying a Tesla, and it was crazy. More expensive for far less.
Really strange pricing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why no Tesla? We’ve had one for 3 years & just added a second one. Literally not one single issue ever in a bit over 3 years.

OP Nothing really against Tesla's as they seem really nice. It just seems high end for me, someone who doesn't drive much (weekday about 5 miles/day, weekends may be 50 or so/day). So I was looking for something at a lower cost level.

Fair enough. But pretty much all EVs are beyond the "lower cost level" and you can get a nice Tesla for under $40K...closer to $35K with rebates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are road warriors. On family vacations, we just want to get to our destination, so a 600 mile or more day is not unusual. Trips to drop off and pickup the college kids are also same day roundtrips totaling over 500 miles. For this reason alone, I'm out. Do you EV people just not drive like we do?

Of course we do.
But the Tesla Supercharger network is fantastic. Still takes longer to drive an EV than an ICE for long distances, but it's not that bad.
I drove up to Maine this summer, and we had to stop two times for 15 minutes and once for 30 (lunch stop) to get there.
They're in the process of rolling out newer chargers that will change the top charging speed from around 600 mph to 1000 as well, so it's gonna get even better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why no Tesla? We’ve had one for 3 years & just added a second one. Literally not one single issue ever in a bit over 3 years.

OP Nothing really against Tesla's as they seem really nice. It just seems high end for me, someone who doesn't drive much (weekday about 5 miles/day, weekends may be 50 or so/day). So I was looking for something at a lower cost level.

Fair enough. But pretty much all EVs are beyond the "lower cost level" and you can get a nice Tesla for under $40K...closer to $35K with rebates.

I don’t think Tesla typically offers any rebates, but the buyer might be eligible for a tax credit. The credit is shrinking though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why no Tesla? We’ve had one for 3 years & just added a second one. Literally not one single issue ever in a bit over 3 years.

OP Nothing really against Tesla's as they seem really nice. It just seems high end for me, someone who doesn't drive much (weekday about 5 miles/day, weekends may be 50 or so/day). So I was looking for something at a lower cost level.

Fair enough. But pretty much all EVs are beyond the "lower cost level" and you can get a nice Tesla for under $40K...closer to $35K with rebates.

Really? All the used Tesla 3s I see online are priced in the mid to upper $40k range. Are you saying you can get a Tesla new for under $40k before tax credit? (I assume you mean tax credit, unless Tesla does offer rebates?)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Curious why no Tesla? We’ve had one for 3 years & just added a second one. Literally not one single issue ever in a bit over 3 years.

OP Nothing really against Tesla's as they seem really nice. It just seems high end for me, someone who doesn't drive much (weekday about 5 miles/day, weekends may be 50 or so/day). So I was looking for something at a lower cost level.

Fair enough. But pretty much all EVs are beyond the "lower cost level" and you can get a nice Tesla for under $40K...closer to $35K with rebates.

Really? All the used Tesla 3s I see online are priced in the mid to upper $40k range. Are you saying you can get a Tesla new for under $40k before tax credit? (I assume you mean tax credit, unless Tesla does offer rebates?)

The SR+ is $38,900.
I think tax credits will still knock 1K off, and if Maryland gets around to re-authorizing their rebate, it's another 3K.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Curious why no Tesla? We’ve had one for 3 years & just added a second one. Literally not one single issue ever in a bit over 3 years.

OP Nothing really against Tesla's as they seem really nice. It just seems high end for me, someone who doesn't drive much (weekday about 5 miles/day, weekends may be 50 or so/day). So I was looking for something at a lower cost level.

Fair enough. But pretty much all EVs are beyond the "lower cost level" and you can get a nice Tesla for under $40K...closer to $35K with rebates.

Really? All the used Tesla 3s I see online are priced in the mid to upper $40k range. Are you saying you can get a Tesla new for under $40k before tax credit? (I assume you mean tax credit, unless Tesla does offer rebates?)

The SR+ is $38,900.
I think tax credits will still knock 1K off, and if Maryland gets around to re-authorizing their rebate, it's another 3K.

Yes. Price out a new Tesla 3. The prices have dropped, and new is priced less than used. The white color standard range plus rear wheel drive is $38,990. The federal tax credit is $1,875 thru the end of the year.

We bought in VA so no additional tax breaks.

[Anonymous]

With a rear wheel drive, how does the Tesla perform in winter.. snow and ice?

[Anonymous]

If you want a plug in hybrid, look at the Kia Niro. I love love love mine. It's a great size.