400,000 overdose deaths in U.S. attributed to Sackler family

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one forced the pills down their throats.

+ a million


Nobody made doctors over subscribe, nobody made people take them


It's like my kid squeezing the toothpaste all over the floor and me filing a lawsuit against Crest

[Anonymous]

It wasn’t all that long ago that pain management after injuries, surgery, etc. was basically “take some Advils” unless you were an end stage cancer patient on morphine. OxyContin was a huge quality of life increase for so many people. It’s a shame the company was so crooked and greedy in its sales and marketing, leading to the “pill mills” and eventually people turning to heroin.

It’s also a shame that the heroin/prescription drug abuse crisis is also starting to lead back to “here is some Tylenol” approaches to serious pain because doctors are so afraid of addiction and abuse. I don’t want to go back to those days either. Not sure what the solution is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one forced the pills down their throats.

+ a million


Nobody made doctors over subscribe, nobody made people take them


It's like my kid squeezing the toothpaste all over the floor and me filing a lawsuit against Crest

By the grace of God I have never been in a position where my only option to relieve severe pain was an opioid, but I have to say that you are one narrow-minded self-righteous asshole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one forced the pills down their throats.

+ a million


Nobody made doctors over subscribe, nobody made people take them


It's like my kid squeezing the toothpaste all over the floor and me filing a lawsuit against Crest

By the grace of God I have never been in a position where my only option to relieve severe pain was an opioid, but I have to say that you are one narrow-minded self-righteous asshole.

Well.... to be fair, you sound like one too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one forced the pills down their throats.

+ a million


Nobody made doctors over subscribe, nobody made people take them


It's like my kid squeezing the toothpaste all over the floor and me filing a lawsuit against Crest

Look, it's Don Jr!

[Anonymous]

So the manufacturers of this LEGAL product are public enemy #1, but you'll do nothing to stop the flow of ILLEGAL drugs coming into this country? Fentanyl deaths far exceed those from opioids, and when you add in cocaine and heroin, the numbers are mind-boggling.

[Anonymous]

How was it marketed? I’ve had a chronic painful condition for 20 years now, so I pay a lot attention to pharmaceutical marketing. I don’t remember seeing advertisements for opioids.

[Anonymous]

I haven't read the article (I'm currently at work) but this is fascinating to me.

I'm a nurse and trained in the late 90s. We were told constantly that "pain is the 5th vital sign" and we assessed our patient's pain every 4 hours. I worked in oncology nursing and I remember how strongly this was drilled into our heads. Not assessing a patient's pain (and addressing it by getting the doctor to write for a medication) was almost the worse sin a nurse could commit. I worked at the oncology center at Hopkins from 1992-2002 and I personally sent hundreds (if not thousands) of cancer patients home with an oxycontin prescription. We gave it out to everyone. None of us were personally profiting from any of it--the prescriptions were written by interns and residents and the meds were dosed by nurses. It was just the culture of the time. Untreated pain (especially in cancer patients) was tantamount to malpractice and no one questioned how we were treating it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the article (I'm currently at work) but this is fascinating to me.

I'm a nurse and trained in the late 90s. We were told constantly that "pain is the 5th vital sign" and we assessed our patient's pain every 4 hours. I worked in oncology nursing and I remember how strongly this was drilled into our heads. Not assessing a patient's pain (and addressing it by getting the doctor to write for a medication) was almost the worse sin a nurse could commit. I worked at the oncology center at Hopkins from 1992-2002 and I personally sent hundreds (if not thousands) of cancer patients home with an oxycontin prescription. We gave it out to everyone. None of us were personally profiting from any of it--the prescriptions were written by interns and residents and the meds were dosed by nurses. It was just the culture of the time. Untreated pain (especially in cancer patients) was tantamount to malpractice and no one questioned how we were treating it.

NP. I think that has been the case up until maybe a year ago. Or possibly two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the manufacturers of this LEGAL product are public enemy #1, but you'll do nothing to stop the flow of ILLEGAL drugs coming into this country? Fentanyl deaths far exceed those from opioids, and when you add in cocaine and heroin, the numbers are mind-boggling.

Why are people taking fentanyl and dying of it? Because of first taking legal opioids. Same for heroin, in many cases.

That's the point.

[Anonymous]

I thought many of the people dying from opiod deaths were taking it and their pain wasn't that severe. Their doctors prescribed it to them anyway and they became addicted. I just can't solely blame the Sackler family for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought many of the people dying from opiod deaths were taking it and their pain wasn't that severe. Their doctors prescribed it to them anyway and they became addicted. I just can't solely blame the Sackler family for this.

A person has pain, minor or major, and the doctor gives them an opioid prescription. The person trusts the doctor, takes the pain med, becomes addicted.

The person didn't know how addictive the opioid was. The doctor didn't know how addictive the opioid was. The Sackler family knew how addictive the opioid was. Who is to blame? The addict? The doctor?

[Anonymous]

If my name was Sackler, I’d change it. And get major facial plastic surgery to change my appearance.

I don’t know how any one of those killers shows their face in public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who suffers from a chronic pain issue OxyContin has literally been a lifesaver (pain so bad you want to die is a thing). As someone works in addition, the way they market this drug I think they should suffer criminal penalties for their negligence.

It’s tricky. I could have easily becom addicted myself with the amount and regularity I have taken the meds (max dosage over several months) but luck of genetics, I didn’t.

Pain, true agonizing pain (the kind with cancer, of life threatening injuries) can be helped by this medication. But much tighter control needs to occur.

And these two should be in jail.

Those two are the descendants of the person who created the corporation and merely benefit from the largesse it brings in - they didn't create the drug themselves.

It'd be like locking up all of the descendants of the Smith & Wesson creators.

They should give up their inherited wealth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one forced the pills down their throats.

this has to be a troll response ^^^

you better hope you never have an accident that leaves you with chronic, unbearable pain.

Big Pharma trolls are quite active on several forums, imo.