Parents of Churchill HS Student with Autism Sue After Child is Restrained, Put in Handcuffs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are there monsters on this thread?

You have nothing better to do than slander a mentally disordered teen who was illegally restrained?

Have you been on a regular school bus where 20+ students make a huge volume of noise daily? Yet this one teen starts yelling, and he's put in handcuffs?

Shame on you. I hope no one you care about ever has an episode like this.

+1 Seriously. Between this thread and the one about the special needs African American elementary school kid whose school called the cops on him because he had play money, it has not been a good day for MCPS.

When will Dr. smith resign from His position?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are there monsters on this thread?

You have nothing better to do than slander a mentally disordered teen who was illegally restrained?

Have you been on a regular school bus where 20+ students make a huge volume of noise daily? Yet this one teen starts yelling, and he's put in handcuffs?

Shame on you. I hope no one you care about ever has an episode like this.

+1 Seriously. Between this thread and the one about the special needs African American elementary school kid whose school called the cops on him because he had play money, it has not been a good day for MCPS.

When will Dr. smith resign from His position?

Well, presumably Dr. Smith didn't mistreat either of these kids. But if all of the above is true, he needs to put actions into place to improve MCPS so that these types of incidents don't keep happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK now we have heard one side...

NP: Bus drivers and their aides don’t get to restrain kids. Period.

So if someone gets up and tries to grab the steering wheel while the bus is going 40 mph, no restraining? If the kid tries to crawl out a window when the bus is moving, no restraining? If a student is on top of another student beating him up or kicking or biting another student who is in a wheelchair, no restraining? If a student is trying to throw something heavy out the window into another car while the vehicles are on a freeway, no restraining.?
What crazy world do you live in?

Yeah. That didn’t happen here. But enjoy making up excuses to rationalize traumatizing a disabled teen in this way.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mother-says-autistic-son-was-restrained-put-in-handcuffs-after-episode-on-school-bus/

Well they claim he was yelling, then stood up and continued to yell when they told him to stop while the bus was in motion. They then say he tried to bite them.

This is a special needs child. Staff should be trained to deal with incidents like this, and the training doesn't involve putting a minor in handcuffs for having a developmental disability that they can't control.

The police put him in handcuffs.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like the whole incident was recorded so the burden of determining whether MCPS/police over reacted or the parents are downplaying dangerous behavior does not fall on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK now we have heard one side...

NP: Bus drivers and their aides don’t get to restrain kids. Period.

So if someone gets up and tries to grab the steering wheel while the bus is going 40 mph, no restraining? If the kid tries to crawl out a window when the bus is moving, no restraining? If a student is on top of another student beating him up or kicking or biting another student who is in a wheelchair, no restraining? If a student is trying to throw something heavy out the window into another car while the vehicles are on a freeway, no restraining.?
What crazy world do you live in?

Yeah. That didn’t happen here. But enjoy making up excuses to rationalize traumatizing a disabled teen in this way.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mother-says-autistic-son-was-restrained-put-in-handcuffs-after-episode-on-school-bus/

Well they claim he was yelling, then stood up and continued to yell when they told him to stop while the bus was in motion. They then say he tried to bite them.

This is a special needs child. Staff should be trained to deal with incidents like this, and the training doesn't involve putting a minor in handcuffs for having a developmental disability that they can't control.

+1

The Churchill cluster is the worst for students with disabilities. The cluster coordinator who knew about serious problems was transferred to an elementary school when Central Office reorganized last summer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK now we have heard one side...

NP: Bus drivers and their aides don’t get to restrain kids. Period.

So if someone gets up and tries to grab the steering wheel while the bus is going 40 mph, no restraining? If the kid tries to crawl out a window when the bus is moving, no restraining? If a student is on top of another student beating him up or kicking or biting another student who is in a wheelchair, no restraining? If a student is trying to throw something heavy out the window into another car while the vehicles are on a freeway, no restraining.?
What crazy world do you live in?

Yeah. That didn’t happen here. But enjoy making up excuses to rationalize traumatizing a disabled teen in this way.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mother-says-autistic-son-was-restrained-put-in-handcuffs-after-episode-on-school-bus/

Well they claim he was yelling, then stood up and continued to yell when they told him to stop while the bus was in motion. They then say he tried to bite them.

This is a special needs child. Staff should be trained to deal with incidents like this, and the training doesn't involve putting a minor in handcuffs for having a developmental disability that they can't control.

+1

The Churchill cluster is the worst for students with disabilities. The cluster coordinator who knew about serious problems was transferred to an elementary school when Central Office reorganized last summer

The event happened on the bus, not in Chirchill. I dont think anyone in Churchill would feel sad if the county move the program to other school. Students are bused from as far as silver spring. A few year ago, a student in the same program raped a woman on the street in Rockville!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good for them.

It’s so bad some of us don’t even send similar kids to public schools because we don’t want them abused.

It should not be this way. Our kids deserve an appropriate, free education just like everyone else. They shouldn’t be experiencing abuse at school, but it happens a lot and there’s no excuse for that.

really?

Let's say this autistic kid is 6 feet tall and 200 lbs. He tries to bite other kids, or he is so unruly that he causes an uproar. This kid's rights trump the safety of others?

I'd sue the system if this kid caused the bus to crash, thus harming my child and other innocent kids on that bus.

The entitlement is off the charts.

Safety first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree there is far more to this story. The handcuffs are inappropriate but we don't know how out of control the situation was. Some of her comments were very dismissive of her child's behavior which makes me wonder.

I agree there is probably a lot more to this story. We are hearing the allegations of a very angry person spun by an attorney whose job it is to inflame people. Also handcuffs may have been appropriate if the situation was really out of control. But regardless, the school had nothing to do with the handcuffs. That was a police decision. I am reasonable sure that part of protocol is to call the police when things get beyond the control of the bus driver and aide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK now we have heard one side...

NP: Bus drivers and their aides don’t get to restrain kids. Period.

So if someone gets up and tries to grab the steering wheel while the bus is going 40 mph, no restraining? If the kid tries to crawl out a window when the bus is moving, no restraining? If a student is on top of another student beating him up or kicking or biting another student who is in a wheelchair, no restraining? If a student is trying to throw something heavy out the window into another car while the vehicles are on a freeway, no restraining.?
What crazy world do you live in?

Yeah. That didn’t happen here. But enjoy making up excuses to rationalize traumatizing a disabled teen in this way.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mother-says-autistic-son-was-restrained-put-in-handcuffs-after-episode-on-school-bus/

Well they claim he was yelling, then stood up and continued to yell when they told him to stop while the bus was in motion. They then say he tried to bite them.

This is a special needs child. Staff should be trained to deal with incidents like this, and the training doesn't involve putting a minor in handcuffs for having a developmental disability that they can't control.

+1

The Churchill cluster is the worst for students with disabilities. The cluster coordinator who knew about serious problems was transferred to an elementary school when Central Office reorganized last summer

The event happened on the bus, not in Chirchill. I dont think anyone in Churchill would feel sad if the county move the program to other school. Students are bused from as far as silver spring. A few year ago, a student in the same program raped a woman on the street in Rockville!

Is that why there are so many busses that the student pick up loop is closed at dismissal? They need double digit (around 15 I think ) Special Education busses to bus students all over the county? I thought these students were in the Churchill cluster. For a school that is overcapacity, does it make sense to have students bussed in for special programs?

Regardless, staff working with children with autism should be trained and able to de-escallate problems. Yelling at a child is only going to make the child more upset. What was the crime that MCPS felt the police needed to be called? I feel bad for the child who was treated horribly by MCPS staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree there is far more to this story. The handcuffs are inappropriate but we don't know how out of control the situation was. Some of her comments were very dismissive of her child's behavior which makes me wonder.

I agree there is probably a lot more to this story. We are hearing the allegations of a very angry person spun by an attorney whose job it is to inflame people. Also handcuffs may have been appropriate if the situation was really out of control. But regardless, the school had nothing to do with the handcuffs. That was a police decision. I am reasonable sure that part of protocol is to call the police when things get beyond the control of the bus driver and aide.

An attorney's job is not to "inflame people." It's to present a case before a neutral party. And if the school, knowing the developmental disabilities of this child, called the police rather than having competent staff trained to handle autism, they share some of the responsibility if the police's actions weren't appropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK now we have heard one side...

NP: Bus drivers and their aides don’t get to restrain kids. Period.

So if someone gets up and tries to grab the steering wheel while the bus is going 40 mph, no restraining? If the kid tries to crawl out a window when the bus is moving, no restraining? If a student is on top of another student beating him up or kicking or biting another student who is in a wheelchair, no restraining? If a student is trying to throw something heavy out the window into another car while the vehicles are on a freeway, no restraining.?
What crazy world do you live in?

Yeah. That didn’t happen here. But enjoy making up excuses to rationalize traumatizing a disabled teen in this way.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mother-says-autistic-son-was-restrained-put-in-handcuffs-after-episode-on-school-bus/

Well they claim he was yelling, then stood up and continued to yell when they told him to stop while the bus was in motion. They then say he tried to bite them.

This is a special needs child. Staff should be trained to deal with incidents like this, and the training doesn't involve putting a minor in handcuffs for having a developmental disability that they can't control.

+1

The Churchill cluster is the worst for students with disabilities. The cluster coordinator who knew about serious problems was transferred to an elementary school when Central Office reorganized last summer

The event happened on the bus, not in Chirchill. I dont think anyone in Churchill would feel sad if the county move the program to other school. Students are bused from as far as silver spring. A few year ago, a student in the same program raped a woman on the street in Rockville!

Yes, why not ship all the kids with disabilities somewhere else because their existence is too inconvenient. Shame on you PP. You need to learn some empathy for those who were born with different abilities. I hope you're not a parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK now we have heard one side...

NP: Bus drivers and their aides don’t get to restrain kids. Period.

So it's ok to cause a bus/car accident?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK now we have heard one side...

NP: Bus drivers and their aides don’t get to restrain kids. Period.

So it's ok to cause a bus/car accident?

That didn't happen. Go read before you post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK now we have heard one side...

NP: Bus drivers and their aides don’t get to restrain kids. Period.

So if someone gets up and tries to grab the steering wheel while the bus is going 40 mph, no restraining? If the kid tries to crawl out a window when the bus is moving, no restraining? If a student is on top of another student beating him up or kicking or biting another student who is in a wheelchair, no restraining? If a student is trying to throw something heavy out the window into another car while the vehicles are on a freeway, no restraining.?
What crazy world do you live in?

Yeah. That didn’t happen here. But enjoy making up excuses to rationalize traumatizing a disabled teen in this way.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mother-says-autistic-son-was-restrained-put-in-handcuffs-after-episode-on-school-bus/

Well they claim he was yelling, then stood up and continued to yell when they told him to stop while the bus was in motion. They then say he tried to bite them.

This is a special needs child. Staff should be trained to deal with incidents like this, and the training doesn't involve putting a minor in handcuffs for having a developmental disability that they can't control.

+1

The Churchill cluster is the worst for students with disabilities. The cluster coordinator who knew about serious problems was transferred to an elementary school when Central Office reorganized last summer

The event happened on the bus, not in Chirchill. I dont think anyone in Churchill would feel sad if the county move the program to other school. Students are bused from as far as silver spring. A few year ago, a student in the same program raped a woman on the street in Rockville!

Is that why there are so many busses that the student pick up loop is closed at dismissal? They need double digit (around 15 I think ) Special Education busses to bus students all over the county? I thought these students were in the Churchill cluster. For a school that is overcapacity, does it make sense to have students bussed in for special programs?

Regardless, staff working with children with autism should be trained and able to de-escallate problems. Yelling at a child is only going to make the child more upset. What was the crime that MCPS felt the police needed to be called? I feel bad for the child who was treated horribly by MCPS staff.

Every MCPS high school has some sort of special program. Just because Churchill has a lot of wealthy overachievers doesn't mean that children with special needs have to go elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if the kid was actually going to hurt the supervising and driving adults - what should they do? Just because he has autism does not mean he was not also acting in a dangerous or threatening manner.

+1.

OP is a loonie.