Unaccompanied minor on long haul transpacific flight?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd say...

HELL TO THE NO.

Okay thanks. Anyone else??? I am not a helicopter but it seems ridiculously insane!

OP--this is your kid. You do not need to crowd-source this one. If your ex wants to see your kid, then s/he needs to make arrangements for the child to be accompanied. Being cheap does not trump safety.

Thanks. It’s actually both of my daughters. I already said NO a long with a few comments about why, but he didn’t respond (passive aggressive you-know-what...) so I just started to wonder what other mothers would think of this concept.

Ofcourse the story changes. Two is a different story. How old is the eldest?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How old? Who is she going to see?

11 yrs. he wants to take her on half of his vacation with his (childless therefor clueless about children- sorry) new wife. I’m so angry he’s be such an idiot in regards to his parenting responsibilities, I’m shaking. He’s generally a blue ribbon, horrible jerk but even for him, this was a shock to me.

And, what's wrong with him doing a direct flight and going on vacation as a family. If he is taking his child on a vacation he is doing his parenting responsibilities. If he went on vacation without his child then you'd complain. Real issue is you think that money is yours and are upset he got remarried.

no, incorrect. Issue is him putting my child on a 14 hr international flight (Asia to wear cost). We are divorced. If he could be bothered to complete the trip with kids rather than airmailing them back like an inconvenient package , I’d be supportive.

[Anonymous]

How old are both of your daughters? 11 and ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please share these articles with your ex and then ask if he/she still wants the child to go unaccompanied:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2018/01/04/sleeping-woman-sexually-assaulted-on-plane-by-man-sitting-between-her-and-his-wife-officials-say/?utm_term=.5ca585dbe4f5

https://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Teen-sexually-assaulted-on-Seattle-flight-13552767.php

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-metoo-movement-has-now-reached-35000-feet-2018-05-23

Oh my god how horrifying awful. It never ends does it...? Females are so at risk, everywhere.

Three articles and millions fly everyday. Bad crap happens at home as well.

Sure. But why would someone subject their kid to a situation ripe for something to go down bad? For a vacation??? This isn't some emergency where the person accompanying the kid suddenly got sick and couldn't take the flight with the kid. This is a planned vacation.
No.

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11 is definitely too young to navigate all of that -- presumably not a direct flight, going through customs, etc. If she was a very experienced traveler and had been taking that route to go visit the grandparents in India every summer, it might be slightly more acceptable, but that doesn't sound like it's the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:How old? Who is she going to see?

11 yrs. he wants to take her on half of his vacation with his (childless therefor clueless about children- sorry) new wife. I’m so angry he’s be such an idiot in regards to his parenting responsibilities, I’m shaking. He’s generally a blue ribbon, horrible jerk but even for him, this was a shock to me.

And, what's wrong with him doing a direct flight and going on vacation as a family. If he is taking his child on a vacation he is doing his parenting responsibilities. If he went on vacation without his child then you'd complain. Real issue is you think that money is yours and are upset he got remarried.

no, incorrect. Issue is him putting my child on a 14 hr international flight (Asia to wear cost). We are divorced. If he could be bothered to complete the trip with kids rather than airmailing them back like an inconvenient package , I’d be supportive.

What is wrong with him taking his kids on nice vacations. He probably has visitation over the summer you are only hurting your kids by refusing. If its a direct flight and there are two, what exactly is the issue but you being jealous? If he didn't take the kids you would badmouth him too. If you are divorced, he probably gets very little time and you clearly have no idea the long term damage of not having Dad in their life and when they get older they will know you refused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:11 is definitely too young to navigate all of that -- presumably not a direct flight, going through customs, etc. If she was a very experienced traveler and had been taking that route to go visit the grandparents in India every summer, it might be slightly more acceptable, but that doesn't sound like it's the case.

Mom is changing the story. Now its two kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:11 is definitely too young to navigate all of that -- presumably not a direct flight, going through customs, etc. If she was a very experienced traveler and had been taking that route to go visit the grandparents in India every summer, it might be slightly more acceptable, but that doesn't sound like it's the case.

She won’t be alone and will be arriving in the US with a handler (because she is unaccompanied)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How old? Who is she going to see?

11 yrs. he wants to take her on half of his vacation with his (childless therefor clueless about children- sorry) new wife. I’m so angry he’s be such an idiot in regards to his parenting responsibilities, I’m shaking. He’s generally a blue ribbon, horrible jerk but even for him, this was a shock to me.

And, what's wrong with him doing a direct flight and going on vacation as a family. If he is taking his child on a vacation he is doing his parenting responsibilities. If he went on vacation without his child then you'd complain. Real issue is you think that money is yours and are upset he got remarried.

no, incorrect. Issue is him putting my child on a 14 hr international flight (Asia to wear cost). We are divorced. If he could be bothered to complete the trip with kids rather than airmailing them back like an inconvenient package , I’d be supportive.

Then, fly with the kids back and forth or offer to do one way if he does one way. Problem solved. Or, if you don't want them airmailed back, let him keep them.

[Anonymous]

I let my 11 yr old and her friend fly to Switzerland to visit their best friend who had moved their six months ago. It was NBD and they had a blast. I’d be more weary if alone but 2 can watch out for each other.

[Anonymous]

Nope.Nope.Nope

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How old? Who is she going to see?

11 yrs. he wants to take her on half of his vacation with his (childless therefor clueless about children- sorry) new wife. I’m so angry he’s be such an idiot in regards to his parenting responsibilities, I’m shaking. He’s generally a blue ribbon, horrible jerk but even for him, this was a shock to me.

And, what's wrong with him doing a direct flight and going on vacation as a family. If he is taking his child on a vacation he is doing his parenting responsibilities. If he went on vacation without his child then you'd complain. Real issue is you think that money is yours and are upset he got remarried.

no, incorrect. Issue is him putting my child on a 14 hr international flight (Asia to wear cost). We are divorced. If he could be bothered to complete the trip with kids rather than airmailing them back like an inconvenient package , I’d be supportive.

What is wrong with him taking his kids on nice vacations. He probably has visitation over the summer you are only hurting your kids by refusing. If its a direct flight and there are two, what exactly is the issue but you being jealous? If he didn't take the kids you would badmouth him too. If you are divorced, he probably gets very little time and you clearly have no idea the long term damage of not having Dad in their life and when they get older they will know you refused.

Go upstairs and wash your momma’s dishes. Putz.

[Anonymous]

11? No

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:11? No

Same answer with an older sibling going as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I let my 11 yr old and her friend fly to Switzerland to visit their best friend who had moved their six months ago. It was NBD and they had a blast. I’d be more weary if alone but 2 can watch out for each other.

DC - Geneva is a much shorter and simpler flight than DC - Asia. I would be worried but maybe not forbid DC-Geneva.