Most Indians Hindus I Meet Don't Realize Jesus was an Actual Person

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Anonymous wrote:I teach middle school SS in a diverse community. Many of my students are from affluent families that aren’t particularly religious. I was surprised that so many were highly knowledgeable about Greco-Roman gods, but absolutely clueless about the major figures in the three Abrahamic faiths. I would encourage non-practicing and atheist families to at least acquaint their children with what others believe as these three religion have shaped modern history and still influence their children’s lives even if the family doesn’t believe the tenets. It also serves as social lubricant and helps in that offense is less likely to happen accidentally.
I’m totally cool if your child shares what you taught your child about Mithras, but referring to Christians as cannibals is just as uncool as saying Jews killed Jesus. For two centuries, the Romans persecuted Christians based on the cannibalism claim.

You are a MS teacher? Romans did not persecuted Christians for two centuries! Do I have to tell you the heck why? There was no Western Roman Empire that lasted two centuries, and the East one didn't last 2 centuries either.

Pick up an AP history book. Look at the date when Constantine officially ended persecution of Christians.

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Imagine in 2030 in Middle East a man claimed he was son of God. He amasses a very large following of all the poor and downtrodden who out number those in charge that could topple society as they know it.

The powers in charge execute him in front of a large crowd. But it is time of eclipse and skies all go dark at time of death. Followers steal body next day and claim he rose straight to heaven.

Pretty sure that even in 2030 it would be a major event and folks divided is he son of God or not. But doubting he was a person? Not really

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I teach middle school SS in a diverse community. Many of my students are from affluent families that aren’t particularly religious. I was surprised that so many were highly knowledgeable about Greco-Roman gods, but absolutely clueless about the major figures in the three Abrahamic faiths. I would encourage non-practicing and atheist families to at least acquaint their children with what others believe as these three religion have shaped modern history and still influence their children’s lives even if the family doesn’t believe the tenets. It also serves as social lubricant and helps in that offense is less likely to happen accidentally.
I’m totally cool if your child shares what you taught your child about Mithras, but referring to Christians as cannibals is just as uncool as saying Jews killed Jesus. For two centuries, the Romans persecuted Christians based on the cannibalism claim.

You are a MS teacher? Romans did not persecuted Christians for two centuries! Do I have to tell you the heck why? There was no Western Roman Empire that lasted two centuries, and the East one didn't last 2 centuries either.

The Eastern Roman Empire aka Byzantium lasted almost 1000 years. It held lands in Greece and other places and actively grew after the fall of the West.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I teach middle school SS in a diverse community. Many of my students are from affluent families that aren’t particularly religious. I was surprised that so many were highly knowledgeable about Greco-Roman gods, but absolutely clueless about the major figures in the three Abrahamic faiths. I would encourage non-practicing and atheist families to at least acquaint their children with what others believe as these three religion have shaped modern history and still influence their children’s lives even if the family doesn’t believe the tenets. It also serves as social lubricant and helps in that offense is less likely to happen accidentally.
I’m totally cool if your child shares what you taught your child about Mithras, but referring to Christians as cannibals is just as uncool as saying Jews killed Jesus. For two centuries, the Romans persecuted Christians based on the cannibalism claim.

You are a MS teacher? Romans did not persecuted Christians for two centuries! Do I have to tell you the heck why? There was no Western Roman Empire that lasted two centuries, and the East one didn't last 2 centuries either.

Pick up an AP history book. Look at the date when Constantine officially ended persecution of Christians.

Persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire occurred intermittently over a period of over two centuries between the Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD under Nero and the Edict of Milan in 313 AD, in which the Roman Emperors Constantine the Great and Licinius legalised the Christian religion.”
—Wikipedia



Christians were first - and horribly - persecuted by the emperor Nero .

Christians were first, and horribly, targeted for persecution as a group by the emperor Nero in 64 AD. A colossal fire broke out at Rome, and destroyed much of the city. Rumours abounded that Nero himself was responsible. He certainly took advantage of the resulting devastation of the city, building a lavish private palace on part of the site of the fire.

Perhaps to divert attention from the rumours, Nero ordered that Christians should be rounded up and killed. Some were torn apart by dogs, others burnt alive as human torches.

Over the next hundred years or so, Christians were sporadically persecuted. It was not until the mid-third century that emperors initiated intensive persecutions.
—BBC

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PP that said not for tow centuries, sorry, I haven't had my coffee when I posted! For some reason I got two millennia in my head! So sorry about that post!

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This has not been my experience at all.

It’s pretty irrelevant to Hindus if he was a real person or not. It’s a pluralistic religion, you do whatever you need to do to understand God and to live a good life.

If believing he was real does that for you- great! If believing it is a moral story with made up characters does that for you- great! If believing he was born by a virgin and rose from the dead is necessary for you to believe in a higher power, then you do what you need to do.

So long as you can make your spiritual connection to God then your journey leads you to that path that’s most compatible with what your mind needs to make this connection.

That is Hindu belief - One Truth, Many Paths.

“There is one reality, the wise call it by many names; there is one truth, reached by many paths." - Rig Veda ( the oldest of the Vedas, over 5,000 years old)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP that said not for tow centuries, sorry, I haven't had my coffee when I posted! For some reason I got two millennia in my head! So sorry about that post!

Thanks for acknowledging that. No caffeine gets me, too.

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I mean, I am very well educated and if you claimed to me that Jesus was a proven historical figure, I would still need to do some research to see if I agreed with that.

What you seem to be confounded about is that Hindus don't know about or think that a major tenant of Christianity is strange: the BELIEF (not actuality) that a human person became a god.

I imagine that there is a whole lot about Hinduism that you don't know anything at all about. So not really sure why you are surprised?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I teach middle school SS in a diverse community. Many of my students are from affluent families that aren’t particularly religious. I was surprised that so many were highly knowledgeable about Greco-Roman gods, but absolutely clueless about the major figures in the three Abrahamic faiths. I would encourage non-practicing and atheist families to at least acquaint their children with what others believe as these three religion have shaped modern history and still influence their children’s lives even if the family doesn’t believe the tenets. It also serves as social lubricant and helps in that offense is less likely to happen accidentally.
I’m totally cool if your child shares what you taught your child about Mithras, but referring to Christians as cannibals is just as uncool as saying Jews killed Jesus. For two centuries, the Romans persecuted Christians based on the cannibalism claim.

Lol! You can teach your kids all about Zeus instead. And I call bullsh*t on the idea that all Christian kids know about the "three Abrahamic faiths." I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of kids in your classes are totally ignorant of Judaism and Islam. So save your lecturing about what we atheist families should teach our kids. PS - Catholics believe that they are literally eating the body of Christ, so my six year old is pretty much going to understand that as cannibalism. Not sure what else you expect?

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OP - I am a VP in an IT related field. I currently have five Hindus working for me. I also had a few Jains work fir me too. Going to a party tonight at my Hindu neighbors house. Been to Hindu Weddings.

Most explained there are many Gods in Hindu. But the Gods are not human. More like a Greek God. The concept of believing that someone who is human can also be a God is unusual. They assumed Jesus was a God similar to what they believe a God to be. But were unaware he was a living person also.

Most of my Hindu employe do Christmas presents and even Easter Egg hunts if they have kids. But kinda a cool crazy mash up.

In fact this Valentine's Day my Hindu manager was surprised their is a St. Valentine who was a real person. She Wikipedia it in front of me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine in 2030 in Middle East a man claimed he was son of God. He amasses a very large following of all the poor and downtrodden who out number those in charge that could topple society as they know it.

The powers in charge execute him in front of a large crowd. But it is time of eclipse and skies all go dark at time of death. Followers steal body next day and claim he rose straight to heaven.

Pretty sure that even in 2030 it would be a major event and folks divided is he son of God or not. But doubting he was a person? Not really

We have much better record keeping now than we did 2000 years ago.

And, aside from FoxNews, we try to seek facts and truth. We aren’t using embellished oral storytelling to teach moral lessons.

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22 percent of adults in England do not believe Jesus was a real person.

https://talkingjesus.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Talking-Jesus-dig-deeper.pdf

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You're upset that Hindus don't know that Jesus was also a historical figure? How much do you know about the historical development of Hinduism?

Most people don't know much about the historical development of their own religion, much less the history of other religions that they do not personally follow.

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I think it’s surprising that OP is so certain that he did exist given the lack of evidence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/18/did-historical-jesus-exist-the-traditional-evidence-doesnt-hold-up/

“The first problem we encounter when trying to discover more about the Historical Jesus is the lack of early sources”

“There are no existing eyewitness or contemporary accounts of Jesus.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're upset that Hindus don't know that Jesus was also a historical figure? How much do you know about the historical development of Hinduism?

Most people don't know much about the historical development of their own religion, much less the history of other religions that they do not personally follow.

Except they follow a Gregorian Calendar, celebrate Aspects of Halloween, Valentines Day, Easter, Christmas etc. live in America and have tons of Judo/Christian co-workers. So they do a lot of aspects already.

I would not expect Hindus who live in India or newly immigrated folks to know. I am taking two staff born in New Jersey.

My one staff who is 43 went to first Wake a few weeks ago. I found that unusual. When someone dies no matter religion or not I go. She like it as it was a quick in and out goodbye with no religious overtones. She did not go funeral part. I asked if she ever sat Shiver or any other religion she said no.