Violent Fight at Magruder HS

[Anonymous]

I work at an elementary school and we had more than one physical fight last week (2 on the same day). Yes, elementary school. OSSI wouldn’t allow suspension because a weapon wasn’t involved. Kids have been able to get away with way too much due to lack of consequences because the student code of conduct is written that way. Administrators are too spineless to push back. They don’t want their numbers to look bad. The people at OSSI need to physically be in schools to see firsthand what’s going on.

The people who developed the student code of conduct need to get out of their ivory tower and see what we’re seeing. Once kids realize they can get away with behaviors then the behaviors escalate until we have the current situation. It’s a perfect storm of no consequences and spineless admin and the teachers are expected to work miracles with kids who know they can get away with anything, and then once other kids see that then game on.

Teachers are leaving my school in droves next year. Maybe that will actually catch the eye of central office since teachers’ accounts of what’s really going on in schools certainly haven’t.

[Anonymous]

More than half the school can't speak English

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/rockville/879-Col.-Zadok-Magruder-High-School/#Low-income_students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More than half the school can't speak English

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/rockville/879-Col.-Zadok-Magruder-High-School/#Low-income_students

What the heck are you talking about? The ESOL population is about 12%

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04510.pdf

You realize proficiency on the English test is not the same as the ability to speak English, correct? By your metric, over half the state doesn't speak English...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at an elementary school and we had more than one physical fight last week (2 on the same day). Yes, elementary school. OSSI wouldn’t allow suspension because a weapon wasn’t involved. Kids have been able to get away with way too much due to lack of consequences because the student code of conduct is written that way. Administrators are too spineless to push back. They don’t want their numbers to look bad. The people at OSSI need to physically be in schools to see firsthand what’s going on.

The people who developed the student code of conduct need to get out of their ivory tower and see what we’re seeing. Once kids realize they can get away with behaviors then the behaviors escalate until we have the current situation. It’s a perfect storm of no consequences and spineless admin and the teachers are expected to work miracles with kids who know they can get away with anything, and then once other kids see that then game on.

Teachers are leaving my school in droves next year. Maybe that will actually catch the eye of central office since teachers’ accounts of what’s really going on in schools certainly haven’t.

Same is true regarding the employee code of conduct. Predatory behavior of staff that violates the employee code of conduct is not enough for central office to fire the employees. They don't call the police when employees are caught. They wait for children to be raped and the arrest to occur before doing anything.

When children are hurt administrators stand at a microphone or send out emails about how disgusting the behavior is. However, MCPS is disgusting for not preventing and protecting students in their care.

[Anonymous]

The boy walked out of the school unassisted. I am wondering what the protocol is for calling an ambulance. I am not defending anyone but if I saw a kid get up ok...would I just call the parents? Vomiting is certainly a sign of a concussion but does it warrant an ambulance? Of course we now have hindsight to know it was much more serious. My child got a concussion at school (not in a fight) and certainly no ambulance was called/required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More than half the school can't speak English

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/rockville/879-Col.-Zadok-Magruder-High-School/#Low-income_students

Please explain where in your link it says that.

[Anonymous]

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Notice how the school is saying if you have information about what happened, contact the school.

HELL NO!!! You go directly to the POLICE!
You want to avoid having the school
sugarcoat the crimes under their noses.

Tell your kids to call 911 - PRONTO!

I would have hoped that some of the bystanders would have called 911 and an ambulance. They all have phones - why didn’t anyone call?

Poor ethics and no common sense?

What kind of kids are we releasing on society? We are education kids here to be sociopaths?? That is unacceptable.
Makes some sense though if the adults are also sociopaths that would rather let a kid die than admit that they can’t control the kids at their school.

How many of you allow your kids to get sucked into social media? to fuse their phones to their hands? to accept the lazy use of technology in our classrooms

We are raising kids with no empathy b/c they can't determine what's real and what's not. I'm no exaggerating. They can't socialize. They can't have civil debates. They can't even look you in the eye when conversing. They have withdrawal symptoms if they're not connected.

Filming a fight is like watching one on television.

‘We’ aren’t raising kids with no empathy. Maybe you are but ‘we’ are not,

And the adults in this scenario - the adults charged with shaping young people - have no empathy either. It’s very disturbing.
Go MCPS! Boys raping other boys, sexual assaults by teachers at multiple schools, fights with kids almost dying at school. Sounds great !

Don't forget the n-word passes going around the Churchill cluster or decades of sexual harassment of female students at Blair. MCPS has deep problems that they have failed to fix.

[Anonymous]

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Notice how the school is saying if you have information about what happened, contact the school.

HELL NO!!! You go directly to the POLICE!
You want to avoid having the school
sugarcoat the crimes under their noses.

Tell your kids to call 911 - PRONTO!

I would have hoped that some of the bystanders would have called 911 and an ambulance. They all have phones - why didn’t anyone call?

Poor ethics and no common sense?

What kind of kids are we releasing on society? We are education kids here to be sociopaths?? That is unacceptable.
Makes some sense though if the adults are also sociopaths that would rather let a kid die than admit that they can’t control the kids at their school.

How many of you allow your kids to get sucked into social media? to fuse their phones to their hands? to accept the lazy use of technology in our classrooms

We are raising kids with no empathy b/c they can't determine what's real and what's not. I'm no exaggerating. They can't socialize. They can't have civil debates. They can't even look you in the eye when conversing. They have withdrawal symptoms if they're not connected.

Filming a fight is like watching one on television.

‘We’ aren’t raising kids with no empathy. Maybe you are but ‘we’ are not,

doubtful, honey

Your response is the PERFECT response from a parent who can't SEE the truth.

I am addressing the flaws in our society; our schools are microcosms. I see the dysfunction on a daily basis, and I learn from it.

You need to look inside of yourself and ask yourself WHY you responded the way you did to my post. my guess? b/c you don't want to see the truth in yourself

Good parents reflect and don't take things personally the way you did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The boy walked out of the school unassisted. I am wondering what the protocol is for calling an ambulance. I am not defending anyone but if I saw a kid get up ok...would I just call the parents? Vomiting is certainly a sign of a concussion but does it warrant an ambulance? Of course we now have hindsight to know it was much more serious. My child got a concussion at school (not in a fight) and certainly no ambulance was called/required.

Normal protocol is for the school to call an ambulance for a head injury. Vomiting after a head injury should have been a red flag that immediate medical attention was required.

Brain injuries progress over time due to a cascade of chemical changes, swelling, and /or bleeding. Children can mask the initial damage at first, appear fine one minute and slip into a coma the next.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really didn't need to see that!

Well, really you do need to see that. It’s clear that Montgomery County can’t manage the kids in their school and can’t be trusted to keep the kids safe.
Maybe the schools should all be privatized if they are failing so badly. How hard is it to call an ambulance for a severely injured child before he dies? This is worse than a fraternity hazing death because there are so many so called adults there at the school. Where was the school nurse?

Were the police called?

How heartless are these students that they videotape this fight but don’t step in to aid the injured boy??

When my DC was in ES, DC was running full speed, and fell and hit DC's head on the concrete. There was a little pool of blood, and DC saw stars. They called me, but not an ambulance. It took me 40min to get him to the ER -- drive to school, then drive to ER. I was not happy. I don't understand MCPS policy on calling 911. Hitting your hard so hard you see stars and there is blood should be cause to call an ambulance. At least they could've given me that option since at the time when they called me, I didn't know how severe the injuries were. So disappointed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really didn't need to see that!

Well, really you do need to see that. It’s clear that Montgomery County can’t manage the kids in their school and can’t be trusted to keep the kids safe.
Maybe the schools should all be privatized if they are failing so badly. How hard is it to call an ambulance for a severely injured child before he dies? This is worse than a fraternity hazing death because there are so many so called adults there at the school. Where was the school nurse?

Were the police called?

How heartless are these students that they videotape this fight but don’t step in to aid the injured boy??

When my DC was in ES, DC was running full speed, and fell and hit DC's head on the concrete. There was a little pool of blood, and DC saw stars. They called me, but not an ambulance. It took me 40min to get him to the ER -- drive to school, then drive to ER. I was not happy. I don't understand MCPS policy on calling 911. Hitting your hard so hard you see stars and there is blood should be cause to call an ambulance. At least they could've given me that option since at the time when they called me, I didn't know how severe the injuries were. So disappointed.

What did the ER do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I will be sticking to W's and W-extendeds...

What is a "W-extended"?

BCC

What's being extended? And/or extending?

It just means it's almost all white but doesn't start with a W.

I guess it's progress that we're now describing schools where 1/3 of the students aren't white (Whitman) as "almost all white".

At B-CC, it's 57%, so basically 3 out of 5 students are white.

For the purposes of this argument, Asians are considered White.

For the purposes of this argument, Asian-Americans are considered white by white people. What are the opinions of people who are Asian-American about this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really didn't need to see that!

Well, really you do need to see that. It’s clear that Montgomery County can’t manage the kids in their school and can’t be trusted to keep the kids safe.
Maybe the schools should all be privatized if they are failing so badly. How hard is it to call an ambulance for a severely injured child before he dies? This is worse than a fraternity hazing death because there are so many so called adults there at the school. Where was the school nurse?

Were the police called?

How heartless are these students that they videotape this fight but don’t step in to aid the injured boy??

When my DC was in ES, DC was running full speed, and fell and hit DC's head on the concrete. There was a little pool of blood, and DC saw stars. They called me, but not an ambulance. It took me 40min to get him to the ER -- drive to school, then drive to ER. I was not happy. I don't understand MCPS policy on calling 911. Hitting your hard so hard you see stars and there is blood should be cause to call an ambulance. At least they could've given me that option since at the time when they called me, I didn't know how severe the injuries were. So disappointed.

My child broke his arm at school a few years ago. They called 911 and the principal rode with him to the hospital. I met them at the hospital later. It sounds like not all schools are being trained properly about calling 911. That is very concerning, especially when it comes to head injuries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really didn't need to see that!

Well, really you do need to see that. It’s clear that Montgomery County can’t manage the kids in their school and can’t be trusted to keep the kids safe.
Maybe the schools should all be privatized if they are failing so badly. How hard is it to call an ambulance for a severely injured child before he dies? This is worse than a fraternity hazing death because there are so many so called adults there at the school. Where was the school nurse?

Were the police called?

How heartless are these students that they videotape this fight but don’t step in to aid the injured boy??

When my DC was in ES, DC was running full speed, and fell and hit DC's head on the concrete. There was a little pool of blood, and DC saw stars. They called me, but not an ambulance. It took me 40min to get him to the ER -- drive to school, then drive to ER. I was not happy. I don't understand MCPS policy on calling 911. Hitting your hard so hard you see stars and there is blood should be cause to call an ambulance. At least they could've given me that option since at the time when they called me, I didn't know how severe the injuries were. So disappointed.

What did the ER do?

Stop the bleeding and check for a concussion. DC was falling asleep in the car on the way there and not very talkative (which DC normally is). I was so scared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really didn't need to see that!

Well, really you do need to see that. It’s clear that Montgomery County can’t manage the kids in their school and can’t be trusted to keep the kids safe.
Maybe the schools should all be privatized if they are failing so badly. How hard is it to call an ambulance for a severely injured child before he dies? This is worse than a fraternity hazing death because there are so many so called adults there at the school. Where was the school nurse?

Were the police called?

How heartless are these students that they videotape this fight but don’t step in to aid the injured boy??

When my DC was in ES, DC was running full speed, and fell and hit DC's head on the concrete. There was a little pool of blood, and DC saw stars. They called me, but not an ambulance. It took me 40min to get him to the ER -- drive to school, then drive to ER. I was not happy. I don't understand MCPS policy on calling 911. Hitting your hard so hard you see stars and there is blood should be cause to call an ambulance. At least they could've given me that option since at the time when they called me, I didn't know how severe the injuries were. So disappointed.

What did the ER do?

Stop the bleeding and check for a concussion. DC was falling asleep in the car on the way there and not very talkative (which DC normally is). I was so scared.

So essentially .. nothing. You could have waited for the morning and taken him to the pediatrician.