DCC lottery odds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The report seems to conclude that the DCC has not achieved its aims but then doesn’t suggest getting rid of it.

Specifically, the report states:

Key Finding 6: The MSMC has been more successful than the high school consortia (the
DCC and the NEC) in promoting racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic diversity due in large
part to shifting demographics as well as three programmatic elements: the MSMC, unlike
the DCC and the NEC, does not utilize base areas, admits out-of-boundary students, and
has developed and implemented distinct, whole-school themes.

Sure, sounds like the DCC would be more successful according to Metis if they simply restricted access to programs like the STEM magnet to DCC residents.

but then those programs would falter from their core mission to bring in high achieving kids to the under preforming schools to help them with their test scores and demographics. Lets say you lock the magnet, than many of those national merit semifinalists will stay home. This would both raise the home schools scores and lower the blair scores taking the shine off the program. I fail to see what that would help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The report seems to conclude that the DCC has not achieved its aims but then doesn’t suggest getting rid of it.

Specifically, the report states:

Key Finding 6: The MSMC has been more successful than the high school consortia (the
DCC and the NEC) in promoting racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic diversity due in large
part to shifting demographics as well as three programmatic elements: the MSMC, unlike
the DCC and the NEC, does not utilize base areas, admits out-of-boundary students, and
has developed and implemented distinct, whole-school themes.

Sure, sounds like the DCC would be more successful according to Metis if they simply restricted access to programs like the STEM magnet to DCC residents.

but then those programs would falter from their core mission to bring in high achieving kids to the under preforming schools to help them with their test scores and demographics. Lets say you lock the magnet, than many of those national merit semifinalists will stay home. This would both raise the home schools scores and lower the blair scores taking the shine off the program. I fail to see what that would help.

They need to reevaluate the mission in light of metis. About half the slots now are DCC and there's little problem filling the others with DCC kids who are more than capable of doing the work. Sure, you may have one or two fewer NMSFs but it would also improve equity in the county per metis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The report seems to conclude that the DCC has not achieved its aims but then doesn’t suggest getting rid of it.

Specifically, the report states:

Key Finding 6: The MSMC has been more successful than the high school consortia (the
DCC and the NEC) in promoting racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic diversity due in large
part to shifting demographics as well as three programmatic elements: the MSMC, unlike
the DCC and the NEC, does not utilize base areas, admits out-of-boundary students, and
has developed and implemented distinct, whole-school themes.

Sure, sounds like the DCC would be more successful according to Metis if they simply restricted access to programs like the STEM magnet to DCC residents.

but then those programs would falter from their core mission to bring in high achieving kids to the under preforming schools to help them with their test scores and demographics. Lets say you lock the magnet, than many of those national merit semifinalists will stay home. This would both raise the home schools scores and lower the blair scores taking the shine off the program. I fail to see what that would help.

They need to reevaluate the mission in light of metis. About half the slots now are DCC and there's little problem filling the others with DCC kids who are more than capable of doing the work. Sure, you may have one or two fewer NMSFs but it would also improve equity in the county per metis.

Good point and a lot of the out of boundary W kids already have a strong peer group at their home schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The report seems to conclude that the DCC has not achieved its aims but then doesn’t suggest getting rid of it.

Specifically, the report states:

Key Finding 6: The MSMC has been more successful than the high school consortia (the
DCC and the NEC) in promoting racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic diversity due in large
part to shifting demographics as well as three programmatic elements: the MSMC, unlike
the DCC and the NEC, does not utilize base areas, admits out-of-boundary students, and
has developed and implemented distinct, whole-school themes.

Sure, sounds like the DCC would be more successful according to Metis if they simply restricted access to programs like the STEM magnet to DCC residents.

but then those programs would falter from their core mission to bring in high achieving kids to the under preforming schools to help them with their test scores and demographics. Lets say you lock the magnet, than many of those national merit semifinalists will stay home. This would both raise the home schools scores and lower the blair scores taking the shine off the program. I fail to see what that would help.

My understanding is that about 1/2 the kids come from TPMS...but all the kids from TPMS do not live in the DCC.
They need to reevaluate the mission in light of metis. About half the slots now are DCC and there's little problem filling the others with DCC kids who are more than capable of doing the work. Sure, you may have one or two fewer NMSFs but it would also improve equity in the county per metis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The report seems to conclude that the DCC has not achieved its aims but then doesn’t suggest getting rid of it.

Specifically, the report states:

Key Finding 6: The MSMC has been more successful than the high school consortia (the
DCC and the NEC) in promoting racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic diversity due in large
part to shifting demographics as well as three programmatic elements: the MSMC, unlike
the DCC and the NEC, does not utilize base areas, admits out-of-boundary students, and
has developed and implemented distinct, whole-school themes.

Sure, sounds like the DCC would be more successful according to Metis if they simply restricted access to programs like the STEM magnet to DCC residents.

but then those programs would falter from their core mission to bring in high achieving kids to the under preforming schools to help them with their test scores and demographics. Lets say you lock the magnet, than many of those national merit semifinalists will stay home. This would both raise the home schools scores and lower the blair scores taking the shine off the program. I fail to see what that would help.

My understanding is that about 1/2 the kids come from TPMS...but all the kids from TPMS do not live in the DCC.
They need to reevaluate the mission in light of metis. About half the slots now are DCC and there's little problem filling the others with DCC kids who are more than capable of doing the work. Sure, you may have one or two fewer NMSFs but it would also improve equity in the county per metis.

About half the TPMS kids come from the DCC. In fact, 20% alone come from Takoma.

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

One of the failings of these programs like the STEM magnet, according to Metis, was they did not adequately utilize their base area. I take this to mean by limiting it to a more diverse population like the DCC it would enhance diversity and equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

I think the Hispanic population in North Bethesda aka Rockville and Gaithersburg far exceeds that of the DCC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

I think the Hispanic population in North Bethesda aka Rockville and Gaithersburg far exceeds that of the DCC.

Gaithersburg and Silver Spring are fairly comparable at around 25%. Rockville is a few percentiles lower. Takoma is about half of SS and Kensington is about half of that (similar to Bethesda). The point is the DCC is made up a range of different areas much like the county and gross generalizations aren't helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

One of the failings of these programs like the STEM magnet, according to Metis, was they did not adequately utilize their base area. I take this to mean by limiting it to a more diverse population like the DCC it would enhance diversity and equity.

Interesting idea to improve equity. Maybe they could offer some STEM courses at the W's since there's already a strong peer cohort there to make up for this.

[Anonymous]

some STEM classes is nothing like the SMAC magnet..what would be accomplished by getting rid of very successful program. MCPS does not have too many of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

I think the Hispanic population in North Bethesda aka Rockville and Gaithersburg far exceeds that of the DCC.

Where are you getting that information? WJ, QO, Wootton and RM clusters all have much lower AA and hispanic numbers than the DCC schools.

Gaithersburg HS has a high % of hispanics and a growth tend. The hispanic population is predominantly growing around Germantown/Gaithersburg, Wheaton and Silver Spring. Blair's own demographics for whites, AA and asians have stayed about the same over the past 10 years but the hispanic population has increased by 30%. Other DCC schools have seen a decline in whites. Kennedy has had the highest growth in the hispanic population but all the other DCC schools have seen large increases too.

The trend is pretty clear. The DCC is getting less white, more hispanic and just holding onto its AA and asian residents. So if the magnets continue to attract mostly whites and asians from all the DCC schools, the diversity at the other DCC schools will slide down quicker if more spots open up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

I think the Hispanic population in North Bethesda aka Rockville and Gaithersburg far exceeds that of the DCC.

Where are you getting that information? WJ, QO, Wootton and RM clusters all have much lower AA and hispanic numbers than the DCC schools.

Gaithersburg HS has a high % of hispanics and a growth tend. The hispanic population is predominantly growing around Germantown/Gaithersburg, Wheaton and Silver Spring. Blair's own demographics for whites, AA and asians have stayed about the same over the past 10 years but the hispanic population has increased by 30%. Other DCC schools have seen a decline in whites. Kennedy has had the highest growth in the hispanic population but all the other DCC schools have seen large increases too.

The trend is pretty clear. The DCC is getting less white, more hispanic and just holding onto its AA and asian residents. So if the magnets continue to attract mostly whites and asians from all the DCC schools, the diversity at the other DCC schools will slide down quicker if more spots open up.

Weird the facts state otherwise:
https://www.homesnacks.net/most-hispanic-cities-in-maryland-1210766/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

I think the Hispanic population in North Bethesda aka Rockville and Gaithersburg far exceeds that of the DCC.

Where are you getting that information? WJ, QO, Wootton and RM clusters all have much lower AA and hispanic numbers than the DCC schools.

Gaithersburg HS has a high % of hispanics and a growth tend. The hispanic population is predominantly growing around Germantown/Gaithersburg, Wheaton and Silver Spring. Blair's own demographics for whites, AA and asians have stayed about the same over the past 10 years but the hispanic population has increased by 30%. Other DCC schools have seen a decline in whites. Kennedy has had the highest growth in the hispanic population but all the other DCC schools have seen large increases too.

The trend is pretty clear. The DCC is getting less white, more hispanic and just holding onto its AA and asian residents. So if the magnets continue to attract mostly whites and asians from all the DCC schools, the diversity at the other DCC schools will slide down quicker if more spots open up.

Weird the facts state otherwise

Population: 66,104
% Hispanic/Latino: 24.64%
# Of Hispanic/Latino Residents: 16,291
Percent Change Since 2010: 18.21%

https://www.homesnacks.net/most-hispanic-cities-in-maryland-1210766/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Wouldn't restricting it to only DCC schools increase segregation within the DCC? This is already a big problem.

Whites and Asians still out score and apply to magnets exponentially more than AA and Latino students everywhere including the DCC. If you look at the demographic trends, the hispanic population is growing faster in the DCC than other cluster areas. This means fewer whites and asians within the DCC boundaries to spread around to all the schools.

I think the Hispanic population in North Bethesda aka Rockville and Gaithersburg far exceeds that of the DCC.

Where are you getting that information? WJ, QO, Wootton and RM clusters all have much lower AA and hispanic numbers than the DCC schools.

Gaithersburg HS has a high % of hispanics and a growth tend. The hispanic population is predominantly growing around Germantown/Gaithersburg, Wheaton and Silver Spring. Blair's own demographics for whites, AA and asians have stayed about the same over the past 10 years but the hispanic population has increased by 30%. Other DCC schools have seen a decline in whites. Kennedy has had the highest growth in the hispanic population but all the other DCC schools have seen large increases too.

The trend is pretty clear. The DCC is getting less white, more hispanic and just holding onto its AA and asian residents. So if the magnets continue to attract mostly whites and asians from all the DCC schools, the diversity at the other DCC schools will slide down quicker if more spots open up.

Weird the facts state otherwise

Population: 66,104
% Hispanic/Latino: 24.64%
# Of Hispanic/Latino Residents: 16,291
Percent Change Since 2010: 18.21%

https://www.homesnacks.net/most-hispanic-cities-in-maryland-1210766/

Gaithersberg or North Bethesda?