Why do people hate Elrich?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Marc Elrich is a mansplaining jerk without a complete vision for how to govern the county or help it grow.

I cannot remember the last non-democrat I voted for in 30 years of voting and I'm voting for Floreen.


He’s weird and CREEPY. I’ve met him and I can’t put my finger on it but there is something about him I just do NOT like. You know that feeling or vibe you get when you meet someone who you immediately know you want nothing to do with and want to stay far away from? He’s that.
Anonymous
His policies will continue to discourage job creation in MD, especially relative to VA and DC. Lack of jobs will reduces the county's tax base and hurts property values, which itself reduces tax revenues.

To continue with the current level of county spending, never mind all the new things Elrich wants, would require increases in tax rates to make up for the above. And that, in return, will lead some of the wealthier county residents to move to VA or DC to avoid the higher tax burden in MoCo/MD. While it is tempting to say good riddens and don't let the door hit your rear on the way out, if we lose wealthier residents we lose the tax revenue needed to fund all the things the county wants to provide

A death spiral is too dramatic, but if MoCo doesn't keep itself at least nominally competitive with the surrounding areas, it isn't going to be good for county residents -- rich or poor. And the poor will probably suffer more because they can less easily just move across state lines.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:His policies will continue to discourage job creation in MD, especially relative to VA and DC. Lack of jobs will reduces the county's tax base and hurts property values, which itself reduces tax revenues.

To continue with the current level of county spending, never mind all the new things Elrich wants, would require increases in tax rates to make up for the above. And that, in return, will lead some of the wealthier county residents to move to VA or DC to avoid the higher tax burden in MoCo/MD. While it is tempting to say good riddens and don't let the door hit your rear on the way out, if we lose wealthier residents we lose the tax revenue needed to fund all the things the county wants to provide

A death spiral is too dramatic, but if MoCo doesn't keep itself at least nominally competitive with the surrounding areas, it isn't going to be good for county residents -- rich or poor. And the poor will probably suffer more because they can less easily just move across state lines.


Good sounding answer to my question. (I’m OP). But what are these policies that will prevent job creation? Specifically? Where is Floreen different?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Marc Elrich is a mansplaining jerk without a complete vision for how to govern the county or help it grow.

I cannot remember the last non-democrat I voted for in 30 years of voting and I'm voting for Floreen.


He’s weird and CREEPY. I’ve met him and I can’t put my finger on it but there is something about him I just do NOT like. You know that feeling or vibe you get when you meet someone who you immediately know you want nothing to do with and want to stay far away from? He’s that.


I'm sorry you feel that way. My experience is exactly the opposite. I find him charismatic and irresistible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His policies will continue to discourage job creation in MD, especially relative to VA and DC. Lack of jobs will reduces the county's tax base and hurts property values, which itself reduces tax revenues.

To continue with the current level of county spending, never mind all the new things Elrich wants, would require increases in tax rates to make up for the above. And that, in return, will lead some of the wealthier county residents to move to VA or DC to avoid the higher tax burden in MoCo/MD. While it is tempting to say good riddens and don't let the door hit your rear on the way out, if we lose wealthier residents we lose the tax revenue needed to fund all the things the county wants to provide

A death spiral is too dramatic, but if MoCo doesn't keep itself at least nominally competitive with the surrounding areas, it isn't going to be good for county residents -- rich or poor. And the poor will probably suffer more because they can less easily just move across state lines.


Good sounding answer to my question. (I’m OP). But what are these policies that will prevent job creation? Specifically? Where is Floreen different?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/nancy-floreen-for-montgomery-county-executive/2018/09/29/c081ed74-c1be-11e8-a1f0-a4051b6ad114_story.html?utm_term=.990368d4ee86
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His policies will continue to discourage job creation in MD, especially relative to VA and DC. Lack of jobs will reduces the county's tax base and hurts property values, which itself reduces tax revenues.

To continue with the current level of county spending, never mind all the new things Elrich wants, would require increases in tax rates to make up for the above. And that, in return, will lead some of the wealthier county residents to move to VA or DC to avoid the higher tax burden in MoCo/MD. While it is tempting to say good riddens and don't let the door hit your rear on the way out, if we lose wealthier residents we lose the tax revenue needed to fund all the things the county wants to provide

A death spiral is too dramatic, but if MoCo doesn't keep itself at least nominally competitive with the surrounding areas, it isn't going to be good for county residents -- rich or poor. And the poor will probably suffer more because they can less easily just move across state lines.


Good sounding answer to my question. (I’m OP). But what are these policies that will prevent job creation? Specifically? Where is Floreen different?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/nancy-floreen-for-montgomery-county-executive/2018/09/29/c081ed74-c1be-11e8-a1f0-a4051b6ad114_story.html?utm_term=.990368d4ee86


Oh I read that, and this is why I'm asking the question. I attended a forum and it sounds like he stands for the opposite of what's being said. He said something about incubator programs and getting rid of unnecessary regulations on small businesses. This doesn't sound anti-business. He also said he would avoid raising property taxes. And someone asked him to clarify the ethnic cleansing comment and he said it meant the Planning board would upzone property around the Purple Line and force current residents, mostly immigrants to leave. Not that the actual rail was ethnic cleansing. He also said he didn't plan on introducing rent control.
To be honest I haven't trusted the Washington Post editorial board since it favored the Iraq war. The straight reporting is excellent, but the editorials are corporate and neoconservative slanted. Not liking Trump doesn't mean that they are liberal. It just means they aren't idiots.
Anyways, I genuinely ask for specifics because everything that people seem to hate about Elrich on here seems to be the opposite of what he is actually proposing. Is there a reason why I should trust secondary opinions over the primary source?
Anonymous
Elrich, unlike Flourine, is not in the pocket of wealthy developers so they depict him as anti-business when in fact he's just interested in the welfare of regular working people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Elrich, unlike Flourine, is not in the pocket of wealthy developers so they depict him as anti-business when in fact he's just interested in the welfare of regular working people.


I know it might be confusing since she sometimes resembles a noxious gas, but her name is Floreen, not Fluorine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Elrich, unlike Flourine, is not in the pocket of wealthy developers so they depict him as anti-business when in fact he's just interested in the welfare of regular working people.


Regular working people need jobs. The measures advocated for by Elrich will hurt job creation in the county, hurting tax revenues that could otherwise be used for county programs to help regular folks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Elrich, unlike Flourine, is not in the pocket of wealthy developers so they depict him as anti-business when in fact he's just interested in the welfare of regular working people.


Regular working people need jobs. The measures advocated for by Elrich will hurt job creation in the county, hurting tax revenues that could otherwise be used for county programs to help regular folks.


And they need places to live. He has never supported a single effort to bring affordable housing to MoCo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Elrich, unlike Flourine, is not in the pocket of wealthy developers so they depict him as anti-business when in fact he's just interested in the welfare of regular working people.


Regular working people need jobs. The measures advocated for by Elrich will hurt job creation in the county, hurting tax revenues that could otherwise be used for county programs to help regular folks.


Which measures, exactly?

Regarding affodable housing. He convinced the planning board not to upzone the areas around the purple line in order to keep the existing housing there affordable. He also wants to expand MPDUs to apply to lower incomes and families.
Anonymous
Communist and will only help the illegal immigrants/immigrant families, otherwise hurt everyone else drastically. Also say goodbye to the Ws if he wins.
Anonymous
OP, one has the sense that you are trolling rather than genuinely asking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, one has the sense that you are trolling rather than genuinely asking.


+1. OP will protest but it seems pretty transparent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Marc Elrich is a mansplaining jerk without a complete vision for how to govern the county or help it grow.

I cannot remember the last non-democrat I voted for in 30 years of voting and I'm voting for Floreen.


He’s weird and CREEPY. I’ve met him and I can’t put my finger on it but there is something about him I just do NOT like. You know that feeling or vibe you get when you meet someone who you immediately know you want nothing to do with and want to stay far away from? He’s that.


I'm sorry you feel that way. My experience is exactly the opposite. I find him charismatic and irresistible.



He’s not weird or creepy. He’s a super nice guy. He’s smart and thoughtful, and has some good ideas, some mediocre ideas, but surrounds himself with smart people, and listens.

I actually find him to be very intelligent.

I do think he’s an intense personality. He focuses on people. Maybe that comes across as creepy to that poster, but I appreciate it.
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