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100% agree. I'm sorry and lesson learned. I do think most would ask their doctor what the procedure is or at least do their own research before asking a message board if it was after a miscarriage ... but still, I can see where the wrong innocent person could read my reply and be hurt. |
It is actually currently a statistical tie. But before we start getting emotional about numbers, here is the best data: http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/549.pdf |
depends on the polling, but also I'd note that Pew asks "illegal in ALL cases". if you carve out incest and rape then the pro-life position is much higher than 50%. Good link though. |
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OP, D & C stands for Dilation (D) and Curettage (C). Dilation is dilation of the cervix which means making it open up. Curettage is a fancy way of saying scraping with a curette or scraping instrument.
A D&C is done for many reasons, some completely unrelated to pregnancy or as one woman used the rather baroque term, "baby murder." It can be performed if a woman has uterine fibroids -- which most women over 40 do. Or if her uterine lining needs to be thinned. By the way, a D&C is NOT the preferred or standard method of abortion in this country, so "baby murder" poster, you really do need to educate yourself. Perhaps you need to throw away your vacuum, since that, in fact, is the methodology used for abortions most commonly in this country. |
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PLEASE -- begging you to let it die. If you want to have a debate on abortion, start a thread in the Political forum.
OP asked a question. OP hopefully got her answer. PP apologized for an insensitive answer. End of thread. PLEASE. |
12:12 here. OP asked a question: what is a D&C. I answered her factually. |
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There are many reasons for the procedure.
I had a D&C post-partum for retained placenta. As did one of my friends. I had severe blood loss from mine and had to be hospitalized and should have received a transfusion, if anyone in my family had the same blood type. My friend's D&C caused such severe scarring that she had to have the scarring removed and a stent to open her uterus enough to support a second pregnancy. Luckily they only wanted two children and both are health. No more pregnancies for her. |
I had two D&Cs for possible endometriosis. There was no baby involved. Please get your facts straight. |
No, they actually are reporting "Most or All" at slightly above 50%, which is meant to include the people who carve out rape and incest. There are also many "pro-choice" people who feel that there are certain limited situations in which abortion should be illegal (for instance, some disagree with late term). So "Most or All" in pro-choice is not a pure vote, either. If you take another poll, from Gallop, you can clearly see how only a minority are absolute on either side: http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/more-americans-pro-life-than-pro-choice-first-time.aspx In this poll, only 23% of people believe abortion should be illegal in all cases. And 22% of the population believes abortion should be legal in all cases. The in between space is a mix 53% of people who want a rape/incest exclusion, or those who want general legality but some limited circumstances outlawed (late term for example). It is the ambiguity of the huge middle ground that causes Pew to ask "illegal in most or all" or "illegal in most or all" cases. Both pro-life and pro-choice groups hae really politicized the numbers, but the research shows that the population falls on a spectrum (which is best highlighted by the Gallup data). And if you ask them to show which way they are leaning (the intent of the Pew survey) they are statistically split down the middle. This complexity is unwanted by the organizations on either side, but yet it exists. |
So 50% of the nation does not believe in the woman's right to chose? I do not believe that one bit. Until EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY can be polled I do not think 50% of the nation is pro life, no way, no how. |
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Send pollsters to people's houses 20 minutes after they learn that their 16-year-old daughter is pregnant. Suddenly everyone is pro choice.
Push comes to shove, in focus groups and one-to-one interviews even some of the most ardent opponents of choice admit that they would take their daughter for an abortion rather than deal with the social stigma and hardship. |
yay, let's murder our grandbabies! |
That's exactly what I was thinking and was also about to post; "I'm all for outlawing women's choice until it's my 15 year old daughter; then I want her to have the choice!" Anyway, I'd be all for outlawing abortion (and forbidding us women the ability to choose for ourselves) if each of you moronic "pro-lifers" agrees to adopt all the children resulting from the outlawed abortions. No? Not interested? Then shut your pie holes, pro-lifers. And I'll add, I'm a Republican. |
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