All three adolescent children in one family gender non-conforming?

Anonymous
"Gender non-conforming" is just a new word to describe what people have been doing forever.

When I was in high school, there were boys who wore makeup and girls who shaved their heads and wore combat boots. There wasn't really a term for it. Eventually, they mostly went back to a traditional gender appearance. I think only a relatively small percentage will keep it up once they are past their teens/early twenties.

In my opinion, it's mostly harmless experimentation as long as they don't hassle others about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty obvious the parents are encouraging this nonconforming.


It could also be a function of their peer group. I would only hope that they are exploring this in non-permanent ways, like hair and clothing choices rather than hormones and/or surgery.


Fully half my DD's female classmates claim they're bisexual or lesbian. Statistically based on numbers, 2 should be lesbian and 2 or 3 more bisexual. Instead, at least 15 of them claim to be lesbian.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by non gender conforming? Like they don't dress in stereotypically feminine or masculine ways? For example, the boys wear make up and the girls don't? In that case, it's great that the parents let them express themselves in their appearance without shaming them for being unconventional.

Or all three are transgender and want to transition to the opposite sex? That's statistically unlikely.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"Gender non-conforming" is just a new word to describe what people have been doing forever.

When I was in high school, there were boys who wore makeup and girls who shaved their heads and wore combat boots. There wasn't really a term for it. Eventually, they mostly went back to a traditional gender appearance. I think only a relatively small percentage will keep it up once they are past their teens/early twenties.

In my opinion, it's mostly harmless experimentation as long as they don't hassle others about it.


+1
Anonymous
I have four gay cousins on my mom’s side of the family. I think genetics can have something to go with it. These are two different sets of siblings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty obvious the parents are encouraging this nonconforming.


It could also be a function of their peer group. I would only hope that they are exploring this in non-permanent ways, like hair and clothing choices rather than hormones and/or surgery.


Fully half my DD's female classmates claim they're bisexual or lesbian. Statistically based on numbers, 2 should be lesbian and 2 or 3 more bisexual. Instead, at least 15 of them claim to be lesbian.


This. It's a fad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty obvious the parents are encouraging this nonconforming.


It may be part of it. Another part is willing to be "in" with the current crowd. Sounds like a fad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to add from a random google search:

Tell Me More About Being Gender Non-Conforming:
Gender non-conforming refers to people who do not adhere to society's rules about dress and activities for people that are based on their biological sex and gender assignment.
A gender non-conforming person may choose to present as neither clearly male, nor clearly female, but rather as a gender-free individual.

I, personally, am a 35 year old woman who conforms to all gender stereotypes: long blonde hair, I wear makeup, I'm quite feminine. But I certainly appreciate that there are gender non-conforming people in the world to remind others that having a vagina does not mean I must wear makeup, and having a penis does not mean I can't. Those are just societal rules we can choose to conform to, or not.


Bwahahaha! I think I'm gender non-conforming! I hate make-up and don't wear it every day. I'm also not a blonde, natural or otherwise. What you're saying is so dumb that I can't even...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have four gay cousins on my mom’s side of the family. I think genetics can have something to go with it. These are two different sets of siblings.


+1

3 generations of gay/bi/trans in my extended family.

As long as they are nice people, why do you care?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have three nieces and nephews that I love dearly, but I moved away from them about a decade ago, when they were still young.

They are now all teenagers and all three identify as 'gender non-conforming' and if I didn't know that they still use the pronouns that conform to their birth-gender, I would assume they were transgender (to give you an idea of how they dress, style their hair, etc).

How common is this for it to occur among all three children in one family? Other members of our family think that their parents (very liberal and pro LGBT) must be pushing or at least heavily encouraging this behavior for all of their children to identify this way in their teen years.

I don't really have anyone else to ask and was just wondering if this could, in fact, occur randomly or if it is likely something encouraged at home.



I'm sure the parents are encouraging of it. They probably live in an uber liberal place where this sort of thing is extremely trendy among high schoolers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"Gender non-conforming" is just a new word to describe what people have been doing forever.

When I was in high school, there were boys who wore makeup and girls who shaved their heads and wore combat boots. There wasn't really a term for it. Eventually, they mostly went back to a traditional gender appearance. I think only a relatively small percentage will keep it up once they are past their teens/early twenties.

In my opinion, it's mostly harmless experimentation as long as they don't hassle others about it.



Not really. When I was in high school there were tomboys, but not girls who went out of their way to look like men. And in any event, no one was claiming to be some sort of third gender.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh my gosh I do not think it's crazy at all.

They are "gender non-conforming." That is not transgender. YOU would assume they were transgender, but THEY choose to dress in a way that does not conform to gender stereotypes. That has to do with history and society and philosophy...

I was a Women's and Gender Studies major at an Ivy and there were several professors who were "gender non-conforming." Some of them even wanted to be called "they" instead of "she" or "he," which I personally find ridiculous, but if these kids are still using he/she pronouns, they are really not that out there in the scheme of things.

This is a political statement, not a trans issue.



This would be why you don't find it crazy at all. Here in the real world, it's weird.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty obvious the parents are encouraging this nonconforming.


It could also be a function of their peer group. I would only hope that they are exploring this in non-permanent ways, like hair and clothing choices rather than hormones and/or surgery.


Fully half my DD's female classmates claim they're bisexual or lesbian. Statistically based on numbers, 2 should be lesbian and 2 or 3 more bisexual. Instead, at least 15 of them claim to be lesbian.



I teach HS and what the pp is no exaggeration. I'm not sure what's going on with girls today, but it's becoming very rare for adolescent girls to be cisgender heterosexuals.
Anonymous
I would think either a parent is encouraging this and/or there is some type of sexual abuse happening in the family.
Anonymous
Gender roles are all arbitrary to a certain degree (pink used to be the "boy") color, so all they're doing is recognizing that. It doesn't mean they are gay, bi, trans, or anything.
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