Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP

[Anonymous]

Why won't those poor kids with cancer get a freakin job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why won't those poor kids with cancer get a freakin job?

Poor kids with cancer?

No, but how about the 35 year olds sitting in a condo/apartment watching Oprah and soaps all day in the government section-8 high rises (and their families, and the previous generation of that family) get a job?

[Anonymous]

I'm talking about stuff like this going on for fifty years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Housing_Authority

[Anonymous]

The basic problem which liberals cannot come to terms with is that there is massive abuse when it comes to welfare. Talk about curtailing such abuse and liberals will immediately claim that it is heartless to not provide welfare without any consideration as to whether the recipient is capable of working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The basic problem which liberals cannot come to terms with is that there is massive abuse when it comes to welfare. Talk about curtailing such abuse and liberals will immediately claim that it is heartless to not provide welfare without any consideration as to whether the recipient is capable of working.

Not true.

No one wants abuses in the system. That goes for welfare, housing and defense spending.

Stop making this a partisan issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The basic problem which liberals cannot come to terms with is that there is massive abuse when it comes to welfare. Talk about curtailing such abuse and liberals will immediately claim that it is heartless to not provide welfare without any consideration as to whether the recipient is capable of working.

We could curtail it with single payer. Liberals are all for it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves – won’t lift a finger – and expect the federal government to do everything.”

Thank you for finally saying it, Senator Hatch.It's become an epidemic of laziness at this point.

You want kids to work for their health insurance? It’s hard enough to get them to clean their rooms.

[Anonymous]

I am a liberal and I don't agree with welfare fraud or support generational welfare. But this thread is about children's health insurance - how to make sure kids get health care when their parents can't afford it. Kids don't stay kids forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The basic problem which liberals cannot come to terms with is that there is massive abuse when it comes to welfare. Talk about curtailing such abuse and liberals will immediately claim that it is heartless to not provide welfare without any consideration as to whether the recipient is capable of working.

Not true.

No one wants abuses in the system. That goes for welfare, housing and defense spending.

Stop making this a partisan issue.

If you don't want abuses in the system, then why aren't YOU calling for more auditing. The abuses are there. You just figure you'll keep asking for more funding CONSTANTLY and let the other side ask for auditing? You tell me. I've never hear a democrat or liberal tell me we need to concentrate on making the system tighter.

Had to drag Bill Clinton kicking and screaming into government reform and him FINALLY saying after a big loss "The era of big government is over". Why do liberals have to be dragged kicking and screaming into making things more efficient? Do you ever write your democrat congressperson about more auditing or just about "protecting" social programs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a liberal and I don't agree with welfare fraud or support generational welfare. But this thread is about children's health insurance - how to make sure kids get health care when their parents can't afford it. Kids don't stay kids forever.[/quote

Of course this thread is about children's health insurance. Far be it from you to EVER ask for more individual responsibility. Just grow money on trees or take it from "the rich" for what ever you want.

When the rich no longer exist, then re-define "the rich" to lower and lower incomes. ANYTHING to keep the welfare state going. ANYTHING.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves – won’t lift a finger – and expect the federal government to do everything.”

Thank you for finally saying it, Senator Hatch.It's become an epidemic of laziness at this point.

You want kids to work for their health insurance? It’s hard enough to get them to clean their rooms.

19-26 year olds are kids?

"The ACA also established a minimum Medicaid eligibility level of 133% FPL for all children up to age 19. Prior to the ACA, the federal minimum for children ages 6 to 18 was 100% FPL; 21 states transitioned older children from CHIP to Medicaid in 2014 as a result of this change. In addition, the ACA required states to provide Medicaid to children aging out of their foster care system up to age 26."


You're playing games again.

https://www.kff.org/report-section/childrens-health-coverage-the-role-of-medicaid-and-chip-and-issues-for-the-future-issue-brief/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why won't those poor kids with cancer get a freakin job?

Poor kids with cancer?

No, but how about the 35 year olds sitting in a condo/apartment watching Oprah and soaps all day in the government section-8 high rises (and their families, and the previous generation of that family) get a job?

35 YEAR OLDS DON'T QUALIFY FOR CHIP YOU FUCKING MORON!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a liberal and I don't agree with welfare fraud or support generational welfare. But this thread is about children's health insurance - how to make sure kids get health care when their parents can't afford it. Kids don't stay kids forever.

And this is the nub of the issue. Why can't their parents afford it? If it is a case of genuine hardship, we should provide the help but there are parents who don't want to work and are themselves on welfare and it merely compound the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The basic problem which liberals cannot come to terms with is that there is massive abuse when it comes to welfare. Talk about curtailing such abuse and liberals will immediately claim that it is heartless to not provide welfare without any consideration as to whether the recipient is capable of working.

Not true.

No one wants abuses in the system. That goes for welfare, housing and defense spending.

Stop making this a partisan issue.

If you don't want abuses in the system, then why aren't YOU calling for more auditing. The abuses are there. You just figure you'll keep asking for more funding CONSTANTLY and let the other side ask for auditing? You tell me. I've never hear a democrat or liberal tell me we need to concentrate on making the system tighter.

Had to drag Bill Clinton kicking and screaming into government reform and him FINALLY saying after a big loss "The era of big government is over". Why do liberals have to be dragged kicking and screaming into making things more efficient? Do you ever write your democrat congressperson about more auditing or just about "protecting" social programs?

No, *I* don't. Please don't ascribe all negative values to all who disagree with some of the issues with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why won't those poor kids with cancer get a freakin job?

Poor kids with cancer?

No, but how about the 35 year olds sitting in a condo/apartment watching Oprah and soaps all day in the government section-8 high rises (and their families, and the previous generation of that family) get a job?

35 YEAR OLDS DON'T QUALIFY FOR CHIP YOU FUCKING MORON!

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. THEY QUALIFY FOR ANOTHER HANDOUT OF SOME TYPE, IMBECILE.