Are "Nature's Promise" products safe?

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Anonymous wrote:I highly suggest watching "Penn and Teller Bullsh*t" on organic foods.


HA! I'm the OP and I love Penn and Teller's BS. I am also really into organic and my husband has told me to watch this episode too (he doesn't care one way or the other but buys it anyway for me). We don't buy everything organic, just the things that I have read that have the most pesticides.

Also I work in health policy, and childhood obesity is one of my issues, and I saw the episode on obesity they did a few seasons ago which amused me. They make some good points and I love that they challenge my views, but I don't think I can go back on the organic stuff now. I'm too much of a convert!!!



Did you watch it? I am not pp but I also watched that episode - my first actually! I am still buying organic milk and if I find a organic version of a fruit or vegetable at Giant or TJ I buy it, but in no way, shape or form I get out of my way to go to WF to buy overpriced organic anymore... not after knowing that organic DOES have pesticides (it was the BIG reason I began organics anyways) and they are not the "less dangerous" (or whatever some PP said about it before?!), but sometimes even worst than the ones from regular food.

Also, since it is not regulated and they are not obligated to tell where the food is coming from, I found out in that episode that there are LOTS of "organic" food out there that were produced in CHINA! ... And other countries. Now, do YOU trust any "organic" food from China? Or any food for that matter? I don't.

For that reason I now take a more "relaxed" approach to organic – and I am pregnant!! (I thought it was relevant to say I am pregnant because I was very particular about what I was eating/drinking… until I saw that episode)

Of course, if I wanted to go through the trouble I could try to find organic food without pesticides (don’t think it’s possible) and locally grown, but not really....


You can avoid foods from China by buying local. I thought Whole Foods supported local farms but could be wrong. I can't imagine that they import veggies from China though. How is that even cost effective? California, sure, maybe even Mexico, but China?
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Anonymous wrote:Which food is from China? I read about certain fish that's risky. So I'm always careful about that.

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Anonymous wrote:Which food is from China? I read about certain fish that's risky. So I'm always careful about that.



I don't know which food is from China - that is the whole point: any food you buy, unless states otherwise (e.g. "grown in California" or "locally grown") may or may not be from China or any other country.
Anonymous
you are pretty safe buying produce in the store, it's marked by country. It's in prepared products or frozen or canned veggies where tons of it could be from China. Apparently half the apple juice is from Chinese apples.
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White House Apple products are based in the town where I live (Winchester, VA), and the surrounding area is known for its apple crops so hopefully none of their products contain apples from China.
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Thanks to DCUM, I started reading labels on things like "organic" apple sauce, apple juice, and frozen fruits and vegetables (for example, organic peas). Even the ones from Whole Foods are sometimes made in China! You have to an avid label reader!
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Just so you are aware, grocery stores use pesticides all the time to keep the bugs away so all your organic fruit etc gets sprayed as well. Enjoy paying more for it.
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Anonymous wrote:Just so you are aware, grocery stores use pesticides all the time to keep the bugs away so all your organic fruit etc gets sprayed as well. Enjoy paying more for it.


It depends on the store. My neighborhood farmer's market does not spray, and some things don't need to be sprayed. For example, I buy the organic peppers that are wrapped up, so no one is spraying them in the store, same with bagged apples. The only other vegetable I buy organic is sweet potatoes, and I'm pretty sure Whole Foods is spraying them, but I will look into it.

Also fairly certain my organic milk and yogurt isn't being sprayed.

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You can avoid foods from China by buying local. I thought Whole Foods supported local farms but could be wrong. I can't imagine that they import veggies from China though. How is that even cost effective? California, sure, maybe even Mexico, but China?



A lot of the frozen veg at WF are from China. No thank you!
Anonymous
It really depends upon what you mean by "not that great".

If you are talking about safety, it's all fine. Despite the "brink of disaster" poster, our food supply is the safest it has ever been. Foodborne illness is not a fraction of what it was in the bad old days, when everything was organic and locally grown. Organic produce has fewer pesticides, but the benefit of this has not been established.

If you are talking about certain values, particularly about how the dairy cows are treated, you should pick and choose your products. The current organic certification does not put enough emphasis on this category, so some outfits are better than others.

Lastly, if you want a higher nutritional standard, most produce is equal. But in dairy and meat, cattle fed on grasses have the advantage, and that is also not well covered in the organic standard.
Anonymous
When I grow three eyes, I'll go 100% organica. Until then, I'm sticking with mainly milk - and peppering my food supply with assorted organic items like yogurt.
Anonymous
Is anyone else totally fed up with this stuff? Not with the idea of using organics, but with our food system and our safety & labeling standards, and having to decipher what organic means, which brands actually are truly organic, which pesticides are "worse" for you, blah, blah, blah. And it's not just food, it's sunscreens, household cleaners, plastic containers, everything. I don't even feel 100% ok eating the veggies we grow in our backyard garden - maybe our water has too many toxins in it or something!

I mean, I have to do hours of research before I can go buy a friggin' gallon of milk for my kids?! Who has time to keep up with all of this?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else totally fed up with this stuff? Not with the idea of using organics, but with our food system and our safety & labeling standards, and having to decipher what organic means, which brands actually are truly organic, which pesticides are "worse" for you, blah, blah, blah. And it's not just food, it's sunscreens, household cleaners, plastic containers, everything. I don't even feel 100% ok eating the veggies we grow in our backyard garden - maybe our water has too many toxins in it or something!

I mean, I have to do hours of research before I can go buy a friggin' gallon of milk for my kids?! Who has time to keep up with all of this?!


Of course you don't have to do it. People are avoiding things without any proven risk associated with them. If they need/want to do it, that's fine. If you want to do less of it, the three most important factors in your grocery store purchases are still the same: sodium, fat, and calories.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else totally fed up with this stuff? Not with the idea of using organics, but with our food system and our safety & labeling standards, and having to decipher what organic means, which brands actually are truly organic, which pesticides are "worse" for you, blah, blah, blah. And it's not just food, it's sunscreens, household cleaners, plastic containers, everything. I don't even feel 100% ok eating the veggies we grow in our backyard garden - maybe our water has too many toxins in it or something!

I mean, I have to do hours of research before I can go buy a friggin' gallon of milk for my kids?! Who has time to keep up with all of this?!


I think it's because the food industry and food industry lobby has done a really good job of making things overly confusing. In 1980 the USDA food guidelines were allowed to say "limit sugar." Well, that made the sugar lobby "uncomfortable." So now look at the guidelines on sugar - it is 27 words! All about "moderating sweeteners" etc. Please. Tell us to limit sugars.

And the adding "whole grains" to sugary kids cereal just makes me sick. Sugared cereal is sugared cereal. Fun and great in moderation. But let's not misrepresent it as healthy.

As for organics, in my opinion, some things are worth it. Not nutrient wise but chemical wise. And things like buying local and eating humanely raised chickens, the food is just fresher and tastes better. It doesn't travel as far (local stuff). The good thing about Whole Foods is that they are aware of the scrutiny of their customers and they make changes. not saying they are perfect but they are aware. There is a sign in my Whole Foods about no food from China BTW. And they make it clear where things are from, so at least you can tell that.
Anonymous
I used to buy Nature's promise whole milk but noticed in the past weeks/months and the taste changed, and indeed, apparently now it is ultra pasteurised but personally i noticed a strong sweet taste which i profoundly dislike. I found another organic whole milk, bye bye Nature's promise!
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