So you think it's fine for men to ogle and leer at other women when they're out with their gf/wife, and that any woman who finds it disrespectful and creepy has the problem. We all know people check people out. There's a difference between a quick look, and fixating like a starving dog that sees a hunk of meat. When everyone around notices a guy staring obsessively, so that it makes people uncomfortable, that's the guy's issue. Don't blame the women. Guys who do this and also carry on about their exes? They are typically always looking for something better than you, and often turn out to be liars and cheaters who are going to make you feel bad about yourself as long as you keep them around. |
Yes my current relationship. We have been together several years. He is an 8 or 9 and I'm a 2. I see the way other women look at him. |
Op here: He's not more successful, attractive or intelligent compared to my exs. I know that sounds bad but it's true. He's cute in my eyes though! I am really attracted to him. He's nicer. He's good at sports and sweeter than my exs. He's better at giving massages. He told me his ex complained about the same thing. He's definitely getting better at not staring as much. He did this so many times before though. I can't get rid of these thoughts. I think I need to start fresh with someone else. |
All of your points may be valid - but the idea that SOMEONE ELSE can make you insecure is ridiculous. The only way that happens is if you were already insecure to begin with and they hit a nerve. At some point - YOU need to take responsibility for the way that YOU feel. There was a post on here about a Dad who told his daughter who wasn't listening to him, not to make him mad. A poster responded and said the Dad was ridiculous because he shouldn't be telling his daughter that she made him mad, he was mad because he chose to be mad - he controls his feelings I agree - YOU CONTROL HOW YOU FEEL. The very fact that she is still with this guy long enough for him to make her feel insecure if he is acting the way she says he is acting - shows that she is insecure. A confident person would have left a long time ago. So, get off your feminist high horse. I would say the same thing if a man were the OP. |
This is my point. HE doesn't make you feel insecure - YOU ARE INSECURE. No reason to think of yourself as a 2! |
Then you should. Do him a favor. So, let's get this straight - In the beginning of the relationship - he used to stare at women a lot, and talk about his ex... Now that you are more established - he talks about his ex a lot less and doesn't stare as much - but you can't let go of the fact that it happened - even though it is - in your words - improving... That sounds like a YOU problem - YOU are insecure. And in case you didn't figure it out - you are insecure because this one treats you nicer, is sweeter, and because of those things - you like him more than possibly your other exes... There is nothing wrong with being insecure - the issue is that you finally have something that you fear losing... Happens to a lot of people. |
No it was more like the first few years! Maybe I'm not fixating on it anymore. I'm not sure. When he does this crap though it makes me feel like he's looking for someone better than me. It's not a good feeling. |
I think part of the problem is that you really started off on the wrong foot... You are a white girl who dates an Asian guy - but deep down thinks he is just slumming it with a white girl for now to satisfy some curiosity - but he actually will end up one day with an Asian girl. So - maybe you were MORE fixated on him staring at other women before - and it was your perception that he was overly staring at women because you were already insecure... Maybe he is just a douche... I don't know - but regardless - control what you can control - figure out if it is you or him - and be objective - the point is not to assign blame - but for you to be the best person you can be by evaluating yourself objectively. |
I like how you assume I am white. I am not. My boyfriend is south asian and he likes to stare at east asian women. |
My fault. For some reason, I thought you said you were white - not an assumption - might have misread something or confused your post with another thread somewhere else. Regardless - my point remains the same. The issue is that you already believe that he doesn't want to be with you - that he idealizes another type of person - east Asians. So - you feel insecure. But - that is still your fault. You choose to be insecure. Just like you could choose to realize that you are just as deserving, just as beautiful, just as good as any east Asian woman... Maybe even better. It's all in how you view yourself! I bet if he were looking at ugly fat people - you wouldn't feel the same way. But, the fact of the matter is - YOU perceive the women that he is looking at to be better than you - and that is why you feel insecure. Stop believing that these other women are better than you. He might be in the wrong for throwing that in your face - but only you can choose to actually believe it. |
I am clearly at odds on this thread, but figured I would share my experience. I am dating a man, who is older I might add and he always is checking out other women, the thing is that we actually do this together, its become a game and we have fun and some good laughs about it. It keeps the attraction going as well, because both he and I get looks from the opposite sex, etc. The thing is that my bf makes sure to give me lots of attention also and he makes me feel like I am the sexiest women to walk the face of the Earth. We have a great sex life. I think it is normal to have a guy check out other women, so if you start to participate and make no big deal out of it, it becomes fun, but this will ONLY work as long as he is giving you the same attention and more and it is clear that he is with just you! If you take the insecurity out of it and he starts to be open w/ you and share, etc, it becomes much less threating in my opinion. I also want to clarify that I also point out hot men, nicely dressed men, etc. He is also not threatened by this. |
+1 |
Hey, poster who's convinced it's all her fault for being insecure? I think it's how she's phrased it that's got you gnawing on the wrong bone here.
She doesn't have to be insecure to dislike her boyfriend staring at other women. A lot of us find it rude and disrespectful. If you aren't that into us, be honest. Our point is that we don't want to be a placeholder while a guy continues shopping for that perfect woman. In my experience, men who are still shopping are a dead end, and even if they convince you somehow that they're clueless and don't mean to stare and will try to stop blah blah blah, they're lying and they just want to hold onto your warm body while they continue to browse and try out others. |