Understanding multiple positions on the Israel settlements controversy

Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews need lebensraum? But Palestinians don't? It's fine to just take over Palestinian orchards and lands and just push the Palestinians into the sea?


The existence of Israel is the only reason Palestine is even contemplated as an independent state. If Israel didn't exist, and because of its existence, make the Palestinian issue a convenient tool for the rest of the Arab world, the rest of the Arab world would exterminate the Palestinians in very short order. Just see what Assad has been doing in Aleppo and I think you'll understand the drill.


Re-write history? Check. Deflect to Aleppo? Check. Your formula is pretty tired Bucko.

If Israel continues its settlement activities it will either be an Apartheid state or it will have to undertake expulsions. Which option to you prefer and why?


jeff you are on a roll tonight - if schumer saw your posts, he'd be throwing things around his office.
Anonymous
Why do Israel and the West Bank excite people so much? I find it fascinating, but I wonder about others.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do Israel and the West Bank excite people so much? I find it fascinating, but I wonder about others.


Why do you find it fascinating?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do Israel and the West Bank excite people so much? I find it fascinating, but I wonder about others.


Why do you find it fascinating?


Because it's this weird, atavistic battle between a Western surrogate and a colonized people. It's like watching dinosaurs fight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do Israel and the West Bank excite people so much? I find it fascinating, but I wonder about others.


Why do you find it fascinating?


Because it's this weird, atavistic battle between a Western surrogate and a colonized people. It's like watching dinosaurs fight.


If only Israel were an extinct dinosaur
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do Israel and the West Bank excite people so much? I find it fascinating, but I wonder about others.


Why do you find it fascinating?


Because it's this weird, atavistic battle between a Western surrogate and a colonized people. It's like watching dinosaurs fight.


If only Israel were an extinct dinosaur


That's not an evenhanded comment. Kind of biased.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do Israel and the West Bank excite people so much? I find it fascinating, but I wonder about others.


Why do you find it fascinating?


Because it's this weird, atavistic battle between a Western surrogate and a colonized people. It's like watching dinosaurs fight.


It's also a western/us thing. regular people in china, singapore, korea, japan, india don't care about this.

here is the jewish right's thinking (for having the highest median iq of any race, they are pretty dumb about this):

And, at a news conference last year, Bennett said that Asian countries could become Israel’s closest friends, because they “lack a heritage of anti-Semitism” found in the West. But China and Japan backed the resolution, too. In fact, Asian diplomats in Tel Aviv tend to laugh when asked whether they would play a role as Israel’s protectors at the United Nations. “We’re not a very active player in this conflict, and I think that would continue to be the case,” one high-ranking Asian diplomat told me. “We want to maintain our distance and focus on other issues.”


It's the exact opposite - Asian countries and their people are impossible to guilt trip like the west when it comes to israeli issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews need lebensraum? But Palestinians don't? It's fine to just take over Palestinian orchards and lands and just push the Palestinians into the sea?


The existence of Israel is the only reason Palestine is even contemplated as an independent state. If Israel didn't exist, and because of its existence, make the Palestinian issue a convenient tool for the rest of the Arab world, the rest of the Arab world would exterminate the Palestinians in very short order. Just see what Assad has been doing in Aleppo and I think you'll understand the drill.


Re-write history? Check. Deflect to Aleppo? Check. Your formula is pretty tired Bucko.

If Israel continues its settlement activities it will either be an Apartheid state or it will have to undertake expulsions. Which option to you prefer and why?


jeff you are on a roll tonight - if schumer saw your posts, he'd be throwing things around his office.


Jeff has no credibility. If he didn't own this site, he'd be laughed off of it.
Anonymous
I support a NO vote, not just abstaining.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do Israel and the West Bank excite people so much? I find it fascinating, but I wonder about others.


Why do you find it fascinating?


Because it's this weird, atavistic battle between a Western surrogate and a colonized people. It's like watching dinosaurs fight.


If only Israel were an extinct dinosaur


That's not an evenhanded comment. Kind of biased.


Speaking of dinosaurs and brain power.......
Anonymous
Why does jews living in the West Bank preclude it frobeing part of an eventual Palenstinian state? There are many Arabs/Muslims living in Israel? Why couldn't the Jews living there just remain citizens of Palestine?

Also, settlements were halted completely for 10-11 months multiple times and Abbas took absolutely zero action to discuss peace, strike a deal, or even stop the incitement or violence.
Anonymous
Israel pulled all the settlements and Jews out of Gaza and got only rockets, bombs, tunnels, and violence in return. What is the benefit of doing the same in the West Bank?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why does jews living in the West Bank preclude it frobeing part of an eventual Palenstinian state? There are many Arabs/Muslims living in Israel? Why couldn't the Jews living there just remain citizens of Palestine?

Also, settlements were halted completely for 10-11 months multiple times and Abbas took absolutely zero action to discuss peace, strike a deal, or even stop the incitement or violence.

There is a sizable portion of Christians in the Arab community in Israel. Current e vents show us your lifespan as a Christian in Muslims controlled areas is short. Israel doesn't kill you if you're Christian.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why does jews living in the West Bank preclude it frobeing part of an eventual Palenstinian state? There are many Arabs/Muslims living in Israel? Why couldn't the Jews living there just remain citizens of Palestine?

Also, settlements were halted completely for 10-11 months multiple times and Abbas took absolutely zero action to discuss peace, strike a deal, or even stop the incitement or violence.

There is a sizable portion of Christians in the Arab community in Israel. Current e vents show us your lifespan as a Christian in Muslims controlled areas is short. Israel doesn't kill you if you're Christian.


There are Christians in the West Bank as well and the biggest threat to their lifespans is Israel.
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