Obama's citizenship- how low can our national discourse go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This subject was originally pushed hard by the Clinton team in 2008.

Trump's loathsomeness on this is true, but it is dishonest to not acknowledging the Clinton culpability.

Citation?
Right, there's no evidence. Don't let that stop you from spouting out of your ass.

I guess you don't follow the political news. This is common knowledge. Hillary was blasted for it in 2008 by others in the party.

This has been thoroughly debunked. Only a joker would cite Breitbart.

[Anonymous]

Considering Cruz was declared a natural born citizen and he had one foreign parent and was born in Canada, Obama is also a natural born citizen regardless of his place of birth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/04/14/new-jersey-court-rules-that-ted-cruz-is-a-natural-born-citizen-eligible-to-become-president/?utm_term=.070ce4ea3204

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The press is bringing up the birthed debate, probably in an effort to discredit Trump since he is doing well in the polls.

All Trump had to say is that he believe Obama was born in the US and it would've died down.
Instead, he chose to again lie about how things happened and what his role was in it.


He is a bold-faced liar

And Hillary wouldn't know the truth if it bit her in the backside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I honestly just can't deal with this election. I would love to hide under a rock until it is over. REALLY hope that Trump does not win, because then I may have to hide for several years.

I'm so with you.

[Anonymous]

As has already been posted: primary source from the atlantic.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/0...tegy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/

This was all over MSNBC in 2008 when the drums were beating for Hillary to do the honorable thing and get out of Obama's way, while she was talking up RFK's assassination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Considering Cruz was declared a natural born citizen and he had one foreign parent and was born in Canada, Obama is also a natural born citizen regardless of his place of birth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/04/14/new-jersey-court-rules-that-ted-cruz-is-a-natural-born-citizen-eligible-to-become-president/?utm_term=.070ce4ea3204

Yep.

I actually still don't 100% agree that Cruz could run. BUT since we all allowed it, discussed it last fall, this totally opens up Obama, whether or not he was born here (he was born here anyway.) McCain too I guess. And George Romney back in the day.

Nice, Cruz. Never thought he'd be the one to fully settle the issue. (All bc of his own hubris in thinking he could win the presidency, ha ha ha)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This subject was originally pushed hard by the Clinton team in 2008.

Trump's loathsomeness on this is true, but it is dishonest to not acknowledging the Clinton culpability.

Citation?
Right, there's no evidence. Don't let that stop you from spouting out of your ass.

I guess you don't follow the political news. This is common knowledge. Hillary was blasted for it in 2008 by others in the party.

This has been thoroughly debunked. Only a joker would cite Breitbart.

No, it hasn't been debunked. HRC's campaign started with the dog whistle racist attacks on Obama questioning his Americanism. That then spawned other HRC supporters in 2008 taking it one step further with the birther movement. After HRC conceded, some HRC supporters continued with the birthed argument and then it was picked up by people on the right and amplified. There is no doubt that HRC's dog whistle racism directed at her supporters directly spawned the birther movement. Eventually Trump investigated the very serious allegations and in 2011 he successfully forced resolution of the issue that was spawned by HRC's campaign in 2008.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are we really still talking about whether Obama was born in the United States? This campaign season has got to be the worst in modern history. Where is any semblance of policy debate? Between Clinton's pneumonia and Trump's racist flame fanning and inane idiotic birther comments, our national discourse has really reached a new low.

You are part of the problem. Getting sick is human, and nothing whatsoever to do with national discourse or Donald Trump, racist extraordinaire. Perhaps you just wrote inartfully and meant to say you can't believe people are treating it like it's a capital crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This subject was originally pushed hard by the Clinton team in 2008.

Trump's loathsomeness on this is true, but it is dishonest to not acknowledging the Clinton culpability.

Citation?
Right, there's no evidence. Don't let that stop you from spouting out of your ass.

I guess you don't follow the political news. This is common knowledge. Hillary was blasted for it in 2008 by others in the party.

This has been thoroughly debunked. Only a joker would cite Breitbart.

No, it hasn't been debunked. HRC's campaign started with the dog whistle racist attacks on Obama questioning his Americanism. That then spawned other HRC supporters in 2008 taking it one step further with the birther movement. After HRC conceded, some HRC supporters continued with the birthed argument and then it was picked up by people on the right and amplified. There is no doubt that HRC's dog whistle racism directed at her supporters directly spawned the birther movement. Eventually Trump investigated the very serious allegations and in 2011 he successfully forced resolution of the issue that was spawned by HRC's campaign in 2008.

Oh, he did, did he, after whipping people into a froth over it? You sound like a Putin-head - Trump the warrior valiant, Trump the investigator supreme!

If he resolved it so neatly, why couldn't he just answer yesterday, "yes, Obama is a citizen."?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This subject was originally pushed hard by the Clinton team in 2008.

Trump's loathsomeness on this is true, but it is dishonest to not acknowledging the Clinton culpability.

Citation?
Right, there's no evidence. Don't let that stop you from spouting out of your ass.

I guess you don't follow the political news. This is common knowledge. Hillary was blasted for it in 2008 by others in the party.

This has been thoroughly debunked. Only a joker would cite Breitbart.

No, it hasn't been debunked. HRC's campaign started with the dog whistle racist attacks on Obama questioning his Americanism. That then spawned other HRC supporters in 2008 taking it one step further with the birther movement. After HRC conceded, some HRC supporters continued with the birthed argument and then it was picked up by people on the right and amplified. There is no doubt that HRC's dog whistle racism directed at her supporters directly spawned the birther movement. Eventually Trump investigated the very serious allegations and in 2011 he successfully forced resolution of the issue that was spawned by HRC's campaign in 2008.

Oh, he did, did he, after whipping people into a froth over it? You sound like a Putin-head - Trump the warrior valiant, Trump the investigator supreme!

If he resolved it so neatly, why couldn't he just answer yesterday, "yes, Obama is a citizen."?

He is “toying” with the press and getting continued coverage because of it. Have you not learned how this works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This subject was originally pushed hard by the Clinton team in 2008.

Trump's loathsomeness on this is true, but it is dishonest to not acknowledging the Clinton culpability.

Citation?
Right, there's no evidence. Don't let that stop you from spouting out of your ass.

I guess you don't follow the political news. This is common knowledge. Hillary was blasted for it in 2008 by others in the party.

This has been thoroughly debunked. Only a joker would cite Breitbart.

No, it hasn't been debunked. HRC's campaign started with the dog whistle racist attacks on Obama questioning his Americanism. That then spawned other HRC supporters in 2008 taking it one step further with the birther movement. After HRC conceded, some HRC supporters continued with the birthed argument and then it was picked up by people on the right and amplified. There is no doubt that HRC's dog whistle racism directed at her supporters directly spawned the birther movement. Eventually Trump investigated the very serious allegations and in 2011 he successfully forced resolution of the issue that was spawned by HRC's campaign in 2008.

Dumb and gullible.

[Anonymous]

The events of his childhood are pretty f-cking weird.

His mom was a 17-year-old freshman when some 25-year-old Kenyan creep impregnated her a month into college.

Kenyan bails, goes to Boston.

Mom takes Barack to Seattle.

Mom moves back to Hawaii and screws some 27-year-old Indonesian. Takes Barack to Indonesia.

After primary school Barack moves back to Hawaii and lives with UMC grandparents.

[Anonymous]

Trump continued the birther shit after 2011. He didn't even bother erasing his post 2011 tweets. His whole press release is just bold-faced lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The events of his childhood are pretty f-cking weird.

His mom was a 17-year-old freshman when some 25-year-old Kenyan creep impregnated her a month into college.

Kenyan bails, goes to Boston.

Mom takes Barack to Seattle.

Mom moves back to Hawaii and screws some 27-year-old Indonesian. Takes Barack to Indonesia.

After primary school Barack moves back to Hawaii and lives with UMC grandparents.

Yes, it's hard to imagine a teenaged mother making poor choices! Never happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This subject was originally pushed hard by the Clinton team in 2008.

Trump's loathsomeness on this is true, but it is dishonest to not acknowledging the Clinton culpability.

Citation?
Right, there's no evidence. Don't let that stop you from spouting out of your ass.

I guess you don't follow the political news. This is common knowledge. Hillary was blasted for it in 2008 by others in the party.

This has been thoroughly debunked. Only a joker would cite Breitbart.

No, it hasn't been debunked. HRC's campaign started with the dog whistle racist attacks on Obama questioning his Americanism. That then spawned other HRC supporters in 2008 taking it one step further with the birther movement. After HRC conceded, some HRC supporters continued with the birthed argument and then it was picked up by people on the right and amplified. There is no doubt that HRC's dog whistle racism directed at her supporters directly spawned the birther movement. Eventually Trump investigated the very serious allegations and in 2011 he successfully forced resolution of the issue that was spawned by HRC's campaign in 2008.

Oh, he did, did he, after whipping people into a froth over it? You sound like a Putin-head - Trump the warrior valiant, Trump the investigator supreme!

If he resolved it so neatly, why couldn't he just answer yesterday, "yes, Obama is a citizen."?

Obviously these were very serious allegations first raised by HRC supporters AFTER HRC's campaign worked its supporters into a froth by questioning Obam's Americanism. As a private citizen and without the power of government, Trump successfully leveraged all legal means available to him to compel the release of the birth certificate.

Trump explained yesterday that he didn't want to answer an issue that was raised by the media because that's all the media would end up talking about. Obviously, he was correct as even a non-answer has many people talking about an issue that was resolved in 2011. Imagine how much more discussion there would be today if he had directly addressed the issue.

While it's unfortunate that HRC's operatives and supporters started this whole ugly episode, Trump settled it and in an official statment last night, the Trump campaign acknowledged that after Trump investigated and resolved the issue, Trump believes Obama was born in the USA. And yet today, here we are talking about it.