Thug lives matter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

Did I say *anywhere* in the above post that it was *okay* to attack people, especially based on their race??!!

That said, what makes you think that poor black people walk around their neighborhoods NOT complaining about black people hurting black people? Did you not get a press release, is that your problem? I've got news for you. People talk about this among themselves. They don't love what is going on in their neighborhoods. Maybe if you actually had some experience in these neighborhoods you'd understand this.

And if you read the DOJ reports on Ferguson and Baltimore you would realize that this isn't just about some loser like Michael Brown getting killed. This is about widespread soaking of the community for money, which has been invisible to many white people until we've reached the age of cell phone video and body cameras, basically forcing the DOJ to investigate.

Finally, you might recall, the police are supposed to be trained professionals. They're supposed to know better how to de-escalate a situation in order to avoid getting into a shootout. Sorry, but it wasn't 12-year-old Tamir Rice's responsibility to manage the emotions of a grown ass cop who was supposed to know better and to stop at a distance from him and figure out the situation without driving his damned car up and shooting a clueless kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In related news, conservative radio/tv show pundit Glenn Beck says he now supports the ideas behind Black Lives Matter, now that he has rephrased their complaints in terms he can understand, i.e., an absence of pie:

“I had a new kind of thought on Black Lives Matter and the all lives matter thing,” he continued. “The best way to explain it is if we’re all sitting around a table having dinner, and everybody gets pie except for you, and you say, ‘My pie matters; I don’t have pie.’ And everybody at the table looks at you and says, ‘I know; all pie matters.’”

He said that illustration indicates that no one is listening to the person who didn’t get the pie.

http://www.infowars.com/glenn-beck-says-he-understands-and-relates-to-black-lives-matter/

Not sure how it could possibly take him, like, two years to figure out the basic injustice that the Black Lives Matter movement was complaining about. Nobody ever said the movement was about Black Lives Matter MORE. Dude must have been listening to Fox News and himself all day long. Anyway, it was nice for him to admit it I guess.

Black Lives Matter TOO. There....solved it.

[Anonymous]

Right? But to take so long to recognize that THAT was the basis behind the movement this whole time is bizarre. Like, don't worry white person, we are not going to try to take away all of your privileges! (I am white, fwiw.)

[Anonymous]

The dead thug's sister called for rioters to go to the predominantly white suburbs to reign their terror and destruction-CNN cut the footage so it seemed she was just urging everyone to stop the destruction-loved the part when she said "we need our weave" take that shit to the suburbs. Sickening

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

Because the same way whites are more likely to kill other whites, blacks are more likely to kill other blacks. Intra-racial crime is rampant among all races. And random strangers of the same race do not take an oath nor are they paid to protect and serve. The outrage over police killings is because they owe a duty to citizens. Stranger/murderer on the street owes no such duty to anyone. It's not that complicated and I refuse to think you're really that slow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

Because the same way whites are more likely to kill other whites, blacks are more likely to kill other blacks. Intra-racial crime is rampant among all races. And random strangers of the same race do not take an oath nor are they paid to protect and serve. The outrage over police killings is because they owe a duty to citizens. Stranger/murderer on the street owes no such duty to anyone. It's not that complicated and I refuse to think you're really that slow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

This keeps being said but yet no one has seen the footage. If you want to stop the rioting, release the footage. Issue solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

Did I say *anywhere* in the above post that it was *okay* to attack people, especially based on their race??!!

That said, what makes you think that poor black people walk around their neighborhoods NOT complaining about black people hurting black people? Did you not get a press release, is that your problem? I've got news for you. People talk about this among themselves. They don't love what is going on in their neighborhoods. Maybe if you actually had some experience in these neighborhoods you'd understand this.

And if you read the DOJ reports on Ferguson and Baltimore you would realize that this isn't just about some loser like Michael Brown getting killed. This is about widespread soaking of the community for money, which has been invisible to many white people until we've reached the age of cell phone video and body cameras, basically forcing the DOJ to investigate.

Finally, you might recall, the police are supposed to be trained professionals. They're supposed to know better how to de-escalate a situation in order to avoid getting into a shootout. Sorry, but it wasn't 12-year-old Tamir Rice's responsibility to manage the emotions of a grown ass cop who was supposed to know better and to stop at a distance from him and figure out the situation without driving his damned car up and shooting a clueless kid.

You're quite incorrect. Police have no duty to de-escalate. In fact, depending on the situation they keep the level of force on level above the suspect. They are no obligation to prevent a shootout if the suspect is armed. Of course it's ideal, however not every situation ends ideally. They are trained professionals, I've worked closely with the LE community for years and it's obvious you have no understanding of the field.

The stats don't agree with your rhetoric. In the scheme of things, unjustified shootings of young black men - or even white men - is very small. There are bad officers but the amount of times this happens doesn't justify the responses in Ferguson, Baltimore or Wisconsin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

This keeps being said but yet no one has seen the footage. If you want to stop the rioting, release the footage. Issue solved.

You're not very bright. You can't release evidence like this during an ongoing investigation. How about just not riot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

Because the same way whites are more likely to kill other whites, blacks are more likely to kill other blacks. Intra-racial crime is rampant among all races. And random strangers of the same race do not take an oath nor are they paid to protect and serve. The outrage over police killings is because they owe a duty to citizens. Stranger/murderer on the street owes no such duty to anyone. It's not that complicated and I refuse to think you're really that slow.

That still doesn't justify the numbers. For example, blacks make up a significantly higher portion of the prison population and crime. Even more than the Latino communities. There is an issue if this isn't addresses yet know one wants to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

Did I say *anywhere* in the above post that it was *okay* to attack people, especially based on their race??!!

That said, what makes you think that poor black people walk around their neighborhoods NOT complaining about black people hurting black people? Did you not get a press release, is that your problem? I've got news for you. People talk about this among themselves. They don't love what is going on in their neighborhoods. Maybe if you actually had some experience in these neighborhoods you'd understand this.

And if you read the DOJ reports on Ferguson and Baltimore you would realize that this isn't just about some loser like Michael Brown getting killed. This is about widespread soaking of the community for money, which has been invisible to many white people until we've reached the age of cell phone video and body cameras, basically forcing the DOJ to investigate.

Finally, you might recall, the police are supposed to be trained professionals. They're supposed to know better how to de-escalate a situation in order to avoid getting into a shootout. Sorry, but it wasn't 12-year-old Tamir Rice's responsibility to manage the emotions of a grown ass cop who was supposed to know better and to stop at a distance from him and figure out the situation without driving his damned car up and shooting a clueless kid.

You're quite incorrect. Police have no duty to de-escalate. In fact, depending on the situation they keep the level of force on level above the suspect. They are no obligation to prevent a shootout if the suspect is armed. Of course it's ideal, however not every situation ends ideally. They are trained professionals, I've worked closely with the LE community for years and it's obvious you have no understanding of the field.

The stats don't agree with your rhetoric. In the scheme of things, unjustified shootings of young black men - or even white men - is very small. There are bad officers but the amount of times this happens doesn't justify the responses in Ferguson, Baltimore or Wisconsin.

Duty, schmuty. It's about good police work. Shooting can be avoided when police, for example, are trained to deal with the mentally ill by de-escalating a potentially violent situation *before* it escalates to the point where people start shooting. It's not about duty. It's about being smart.

Yes, there are not that many bad officers but as I have mentioned several times, the DOJ reports reveal that there are abusive systems where police are rewarded for making as many arrests as possible and municipal systems rely on the fines that they levy through the criminal justice system. Which leads to widespread resentment of the police. Read the DOJ reports if you don't believe me. Does any of this justify rioting in response? No. But it should make you stop acting so clueless as to why people are angry. Read the friggin' DOJ reports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

This keeps being said but yet no one has seen the footage. If you want to stop the rioting, release the footage. Issue solved.

For Petes sake, it's been two days. Please show another example of body cam footage being released in under a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

Because the same way whites are more likely to kill other whites, blacks are more likely to kill other blacks. Intra-racial crime is rampant among all races. And random strangers of the same race do not take an oath nor are they paid to protect and serve. The outrage over police killings is because they owe a duty to citizens. Stranger/murderer on the street owes no such duty to anyone. It's not that complicated and I refuse to think you're really that slow.

That still doesn't justify the numbers. For example, blacks make up a significantly higher portion of the prison population and crime. Even more than the Latino communities. There is an issue if this isn't addresses yet know one wants to.

Research shows that generally whites and blacks use drugs at a similar rate yet blacks are more likely to be arrested than whites. Wonder why that is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the police officers body cam caught the suspect raising his weapon. The officer was justified in shooting Smith. The actions of the local community - if you want to call them that - is horrible. There's unedited video of them actively planning and attacking people for being white..its digusting

Based on what I've heard, the shooting was justified. However, what has been happening in places like Milwaukee is that a shooting that may be justified sparks off years of built-up resentment of the community to abusive practices by the police. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson after years of police milking the community for multiple fines and charges in order to fund the government. And in Baltimore, while the cause of Freddy Gray's death may be unclear, it's clear that the police have also been abusing that community for years. The DOJ reports on police practices in both communities identified many questionable practices used by the local police departments.

Yes, people should not riot. It hurts them and their community more than it hurts the police department. But the police also need to be held responsible for years of abuse that are only now coming to light.

But to attack whites? Baltimore has a sizable group or blacks in their force. Multiple officers in Gray's case were black. This officer in Wisconisn was black. My question is - and it's an honest question - why the anger over cops but not each other. The stats show black males are killed by other black males 95% of the time. It would take cops 40 years of killing just black males to equal the amount of times black males killed each other in 2012 alone
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cacheqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

4,472 black males were killed between 2009-2012 annually, by contrast both justified and unjustified shootings in black men by police offers was 112.

Because the same way whites are more likely to kill other whites, blacks are more likely to kill other blacks. Intra-racial crime is rampant among all races. And random strangers of the same race do not take an oath nor are they paid to protect and serve. The outrage over police killings is because they owe a duty to citizens. Stranger/murderer on the street owes no such duty to anyone. It's not that complicated and I refuse to think you're really that slow.

That still doesn't justify the numbers. For example, blacks make up a significantly higher portion of the prison population and crime. Even more than the Latino communities. There is an issue if this isn't addresses yet know one wants to.

I dunno- poverty? ~\_("/)_/~