Why is Kasich allowed to continue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RNC can tell him to stop. There needs to be some rules for this process that candidates need to be removed from the process if they have been eliminated mathematically. Kasich can still go around the country and have his town halls. But he can't continue in a contest that he has been eliminated.

The RNC cannot tell any candidate to stop. That is not how this process works.
Can the DNC tell Bernie or Hillary to drop out? No.

The RNC and the state parties make all the rules for this process. It definitely can tell any candidate who has been eliminated to drop out. It's an easy rule to make and everyone will understand - when you need more than 100% of the available votes to win, it's time for that person to be removed from the process.

Both Bernie and Hillary are very much still in this race to get to the majority so there is no ground for the DNC to ask any of them to drop out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RNC can tell him to stop. There needs to be some rules for this process that candidates need to be removed from the process if they have been eliminated mathematically. Kasich can still go around the country and have his town halls. But he can't continue in a contest that he has been eliminated.

The RNC cannot tell any candidate to stop. That is not how this process works.
Can the DNC tell Bernie or Hillary to drop out? No.

The RNC and the state parties make all the rules for this process. It definitely can tell any candidate who has been eliminated to drop out. It's an easy rule to make and everyone will understand - when you need more than 100% of the available votes to win, it's time for that person to be removed from the process.

Both Bernie and Hillary are very much still in this race to get to the majority so there is no ground for the DNC to ask any of them to drop out.

Where is this stated in the "rules"? They can tell Donald to drop out too - do you think he will and will it matter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He has been mathematically eliminated. Why is Kasich allowed to continue when he needs to get more than 100% to win?

There is a very good chance that EVERY candidate will be mathematically eliminated before the convention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RNC can tell him to stop. There needs to be some rules for this process that candidates need to be removed from the process if they have been eliminated mathematically. Kasich can still go around the country and have his town halls. But he can't continue in a contest that he has been eliminated.

The RNC cannot tell any candidate to stop. That is not how this process works.
Can the DNC tell Bernie or Hillary to drop out? No.

The RNC and the state parties make all the rules for this process. It definitely can tell any candidate who has been eliminated to drop out. It's an easy rule to make and everyone will understand - when you need more than 100% of the available votes to win, it's time for that person to be removed from the process.

Both Bernie and Hillary are very much still in this race to get to the majority so there is no ground for the DNC to ask any of them to drop out.

No one is eliminated. Winning a majority in the first round isn't the only way to get the nomination. The rules explicitly anticipate the possibility that the candidates enter the convention with no candidate holding a majority, at which point anyone who meets the constitutional qualifications is a candidate. In fact, it's conceivable that all three candidates will become mathematically incapable of winning a majority before the last primary. Should all three be eliminated at that point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RNC can tell him to stop. There needs to be some rules for this process that candidates need to be removed from the process if they have been eliminated mathematically. Kasich can still go around the country and have his town halls. But he can't continue in a contest that he has been eliminated.

The RNC cannot tell any candidate to stop. That is not how this process works.
Can the DNC tell Bernie or Hillary to drop out? No.

The RNC and the state parties make all the rules for this process. It definitely can tell any candidate who has been eliminated to drop out. It's an easy rule to make and everyone will understand - when you need more than 100% of the available votes to win, it's time for that person to be removed from the process.

Both Bernie and Hillary are very much still in this race to get to the majority so there is no ground for the DNC to ask any of them to drop out.

No one is eliminated. Winning a majority in the first round isn't the only way to get the nomination. The rules explicitly anticipate the possibility that the candidates enter the convention with no candidate holding a majority, at which point anyone who meets the constitutional qualifications is a candidate. In fact, it's conceivable that all three candidates will become mathematically incapable of winning a majority before the last primary. Should all three be eliminated at that point?

PP with an addition:

Signed, a gleeful democrat.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democracy is based on math. When you are eliminated you need to get out.

You are confusing theoretical "democracy" with the political practices of the United States. In the US, nominations are controlled by parties. Parties set their own rules. The Republican Party, like the Democratic Party, chooses its candidate at a national convention. One need not even run to be considered for nomination. Kasich -- just like every other natural born American over the age of 35 who is registered as a Republican -- has a chance of being nominated at the Republican convention.

Kasich's only argument left is hinged on the party politics -- one like Paul Ryan who didn't even run can be put on the ballot in the later round of the convention -- and has just as much or even a better chance than Kasich. But he should be removed from the "democratic" part of the process now when he has less than zero chance now. Both Cruz and Trump are calling him to get out.

[Anonymous]

I don't think the parties can pull someone from a primary ballot. In a great many (most?) states, the parties do not control who gets put on the ballot to begin with. Some of them you just pay. Others the candidate collects signatures. Some are approved by a secretary of state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democracy is based on math. When you are eliminated you need to get out.

You are confusing theoretical "democracy" with the political practices of the United States. In the US, nominations are controlled by parties. Parties set their own rules. The Republican Party, like the Democratic Party, chooses its candidate at a national convention. One need not even run to be considered for nomination. Kasich -- just like every other natural born American over the age of 35 who is registered as a Republican -- has a chance of being nominated at the Republican convention.

Kasich's only argument left is hinged on the party politics -- one like Paul Ryan who didn't even run can be put on the ballot in the later round of the convention -- and has just as much or even a better chance than Kasich. But he should be removed from the "democratic" part of the process now when he has less than zero chance now. Both Cruz and Trump are calling him to get out.

It's all party politics at this point. It does not look like Trump will get to 50%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RNC can tell him to stop. There needs to be some rules for this process that candidates need to be removed from the process if they have been eliminated mathematically. Kasich can still go around the country and have his town halls. But he can't continue in a contest that he has been eliminated.

The RNC cannot tell any candidate to stop. That is not how this process works.
Can the DNC tell Bernie or Hillary to drop out? No.

The RNC and the state parties make all the rules for this process. It definitely can tell any candidate who has been eliminated to drop out. It's an easy rule to make and everyone will understand - when you need more than 100% of the available votes to win, it's time for that person to be removed from the process.

Both Bernie and Hillary are very much still in this race to get to the majority so there is no ground for the DNC to ask any of them to drop out.

No one is eliminated. Winning a majority in the first round isn't the only way to get the nomination. The rules explicitly anticipate the possibility that the candidates enter the convention with no candidate holding a majority, at which point anyone who meets the constitutional qualifications is a candidate. In fact, it's conceivable that all three candidates will become mathematically incapable of winning a majority before the last primary. Should all three be eliminated at that point?

No it won't happen before the last primary. Kasich would have been eliminated already. Ted Cruz will be eliminated most likely at the end of the April. Trump will be the only one left to have a mathematical chance after NY, NJ and PA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democracy is based on math. When you are eliminated you need to get out.

Historically conventions had lots of favorite son candidates, who entered the convention with the support of delegates from only one state, and either bargained them away, or tried to bargain to get the nomination.

Why are so many people ignorant of over 100 years of American political history?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The RNC can tell him to stop. There needs to be some rules for this process that candidates need to be removed from the process if they have been eliminated mathematically. Kasich can still go around the country and have his town halls. But he can't continue in a contest that he has been eliminated.

They can tell him to stop. They can remove support from anything he does. They can't MAKE his stop, though. It's a free election in a free country.

And they don't want him to stop. They don't like Cruz and they don't like Trump. If Kasich can be a tiny bit of a spoiler, they are happy to let him do that.

The convention is going to be contested. Kasich has a chance of winning on the floor, if the RNC opens it up to whoever.

[Anonymous]

Exactly-why would the rnc ask its only semi-sane and viable candidate to leave the race?

Of course they are hoping for a contested convention.

However, they implode no matter what happens.

[Anonymous]

He's still running in the hopes that he prevents Trump from attaining the delegate votes needed to be the uncontested Republican candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RNC can tell him to stop. There needs to be some rules for this process that candidates need to be removed from the process if they have been eliminated mathematically. Kasich can still go around the country and have his town halls. But he can't continue in a contest that he has been eliminated.

The RNC cannot tell any candidate to stop. That is not how this process works.
Can the DNC tell Bernie or Hillary to drop out? No.

The RNC and the state parties make all the rules for this process. It definitely can tell any candidate who has been eliminated to drop out. It's an easy rule to make and everyone will understand - when you need more than 100% of the available votes to win, it's time for that person to be removed from the process.

Both Bernie and Hillary are very much still in this race to get to the majority so there is no ground for the DNC to ask any of them to drop out.

No one is eliminated. Winning a majority in the first round isn't the only way to get the nomination. The rules explicitly anticipate the possibility that the candidates enter the convention with no candidate holding a majority, at which point anyone who meets the constitutional qualifications is a candidate. In fact, it's conceivable that all three candidates will become mathematically incapable of winning a majority before the last primary. Should all three be eliminated at that point?

No it won't happen before the last primary. Kasich would have been eliminated already. Ted Cruz will be eliminated most likely at the end of the April. Trump will be the only one left to have a mathematical chance after NY, NJ and PA.

no one is "eliminated" if they have a contested convention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RNC can tell him to stop. There needs to be some rules for this process that candidates need to be removed from the process if they have been eliminated mathematically. Kasich can still go around the country and have his town halls. But he can't continue in a contest that he has been eliminated.

The RNC cannot tell any candidate to stop. That is not how this process works.
Can the DNC tell Bernie or Hillary to drop out? No.

The RNC and the state parties make all the rules for this process. It definitely can tell any candidate who has been eliminated to drop out. It's an easy rule to make and everyone will understand - when you need more than 100% of the available votes to win, it's time for that person to be removed from the process.

Both Bernie and Hillary are very much still in this race to get to the majority so there is no ground for the DNC to ask any of them to drop out.

No one is eliminated. Winning a majority in the first round isn't the only way to get the nomination. The rules explicitly anticipate the possibility that the candidates enter the convention with no candidate holding a majority, at which point anyone who meets the constitutional qualifications is a candidate. In fact, it's conceivable that all three candidates will become mathematically incapable of winning a majority before the last primary. Should all three be eliminated at that point?

No it won't happen before the last primary. Kasich would have been eliminated already. Ted Cruz will be eliminated most likely at the end of the April. Trump will be the only one left to have a mathematical chance after NY, NJ and PA.

no one is "eliminated" if they have a contested convention.

Correct. And telling Kasich to get out disenfranchises the Northeastern Republicans who haven't had a chance to vote yet.