WWYD? Saw crying k student being picked up and moved to classroom by teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What? I fail to see the big deal here. Also if you new this girl why didn't you help? Should we report you for failing to use your "social emotional tools"? fwiw sometimes "ok, back in the classroom" IS an appropriate response as opposed to catering to an anxious avoidance reaction like this was.

The OP said she was carried not asked. There's a difference and it is not an appropriate response for adult to use brute force on a child unless the child is in danger. Signed, a teacher

[Anonymous]

The teacher has 20-30 kids to worry about. She handled it fine. If child is having that many issues they need to get her some more help either through school or at home. She didn't scream, yell or abuse her. She gently picked up the child and carried her. Maybe that is what the child needed and worked best for the teacher.

[Anonymous]

Boy, I feel sorry for some teachers.

[Anonymous]

So the child should be allowed to stand outside of the hall for however long she chooses? Ummm no, put her right back in the class

[Anonymous]

If you really know these parents, I would certainly mention to them that their child seemed to have a really rough day at school and they should try and understand why she was so upset at the singalong.
To be mad at a K teacher because she moved the kid away from the situation that was upsetting her (and away from all the other kids who were behving and trying to have a good experience) is something I just don't understand.
You really want the K teacher to do breathing exercises (or other "social emotional exercise" whatever the heck that even means) with this kid smack in the middle of the singalong? I don't think that would have been very effective anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you really know these parents, I would certainly mention to them that their child seemed to have a really rough day at school and they should try and understand why she was so upset at the singalong.
To be mad at a K teacher because she moved the kid away from the situation that was upsetting her (and away from all the other kids who were behving and trying to have a good experience) is something I just don't understand.
You really want the K teacher to do breathing exercises (or other "social emotional exercise" whatever the heck that even means) with this kid smack in the middle of the singalong? I don't think that would have been very effective anyway.

A few clarifications, this is a private school. There are 11 students and 2 teachers. It prides itself on a strong social-emotional foundation based on the Responsive Classroom curriculum. This was right after school started, not at the sing along, happening right outside the classroom.

I understand what many are saying in that teachers need to be able to get their classroom on track for the sake of the other students. However, I do think other tactics could have been used other than forcibly carrying a girl who was resisting. All in all, I appreciate the feedback but I do stand by my gut.

Thank you to all who replied.

-OP

[Anonymous]

"I want to complain/feel superior, so I'm going to pretend to ask a question even though I don't care about your answers."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you really know these parents, I would certainly mention to them that their child seemed to have a really rough day at school and they should try and understand why she was so upset at the singalong.
To be mad at a K teacher because she moved the kid away from the situation that was upsetting her (and away from all the other kids who were behving and trying to have a good experience) is something I just don't understand.
You really want the K teacher to do breathing exercises (or other "social emotional exercise" whatever the heck that even means) with this kid smack in the middle of the singalong? I don't think that would have been very effective anyway.

A few clarifications, this is a private school. There are 11 students and 2 teachers. It prides itself on a strong social-emotional foundation based on the Responsive Classroom curriculum. This was right after school started, not at the sing along, happening right outside the classroom.

I understand what many are saying in that teachers need to be able to get their classroom on track for the sake of the other students. However, I do think other tactics could have been used other than forcibly carrying a girl who was resisting. All in all, I appreciate the feedback but I do stand by my gut.

Thank you to all who replied.

-OP

So why did you ask others' opinions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you really know these parents, I would certainly mention to them that their child seemed to have a really rough day at school and they should try and understand why she was so upset at the singalong.
To be mad at a K teacher because she moved the kid away from the situation that was upsetting her (and away from all the other kids who were behving and trying to have a good experience) is something I just don't understand.
You really want the K teacher to do breathing exercises (or other "social emotional exercise" whatever the heck that even means) with this kid smack in the middle of the singalong? I don't think that would have been very effective anyway.

A few clarifications, this is a private school. There are 11 students and 2 teachers. It prides itself on a strong social-emotional foundation based on the Responsive Classroom curriculum. This was right after school started, not at the sing along, happening right outside the classroom.

I understand what many are saying in that teachers need to be able to get their classroom on track for the sake of the other students. However, I do think other tactics could have been used other than forcibly carrying a girl who was resisting. All in all, I appreciate the feedback but I do stand by my gut.

Thank you to all who replied.

-OP

Then why even ask us?

[Anonymous]

OP is your older child a fifth grade patrol who likes to stand on the bus and you feel she does not need to listen to the bus driver and sit down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you really know these parents, I would certainly mention to them that their child seemed to have a really rough day at school and they should try and understand why she was so upset at the singalong.
To be mad at a K teacher because she moved the kid away from the situation that was upsetting her (and away from all the other kids who were behving and trying to have a good experience) is something I just don't understand.
You really want the K teacher to do breathing exercises (or other "social emotional exercise" whatever the heck that even means) with this kid smack in the middle of the singalong? I don't think that would have been very effective anyway.

A few clarifications, this is a private school. There are 11 students and 2 teachers. It prides itself on a strong social-emotional foundation based on the Responsive Classroom curriculum. This was right after school started, not at the sing along, happening right outside the classroom.

I understand what many are saying in that teachers need to be able to get their classroom on track for the sake of the other students. However, I do think other tactics could have been used other than forcibly carrying a girl who was resisting. All in all, I appreciate the feedback but I do stand by my gut.

Thank you to all who replied.

-OP

Why should it matter that it's a private school? Do private school kids get treated with kid gloves? Oh yea, they do.. special snowflakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She basically carried her, crying, back into the classroom. She's my son's best friend, very shy and anxious. She was crying because our school was having a sing a long and didn't want to sing. Barely any social-emotional tools used during the 5 minutes spent trying to calm the child. After five minutes she just said "come on, back inside" picked up the crying child and walked into the classroom with her. Five minutes later the same girl came back outside with the other teacher, crying, but finally calmed down 5 minutes later as the teacher used breathing exercises to calm her. Should I be reporting this to someone? Telling her parents? My gut says yes but I'm a first time elementary parent so maybe this is normal? Thanks for your two cents.

I'm confused. Why do you think something needs to be "done?" I'm sure the parents know their child is shy and anxious -- what's the point of making them feel bad about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you really know these parents, I would certainly mention to them that their child seemed to have a really rough day at school and they should try and understand why she was so upset at the singalong.
To be mad at a K teacher because she moved the kid away from the situation that was upsetting her (and away from all the other kids who were behving and trying to have a good experience) is something I just don't understand.
You really want the K teacher to do breathing exercises (or other "social emotional exercise" whatever the heck that even means) with this kid smack in the middle of the singalong? I don't think that would have been very effective anyway.

A few clarifications, this is a private school. There are 11 students and 2 teachers. It prides itself on a strong social-emotional foundation based on the Responsive Classroom curriculum. This was right after school started, not at the sing along, happening right outside the classroom.

I understand what many are saying in that teachers need to be able to get their classroom on track for the sake of the other students. However, I do think other tactics could have been used other than forcibly carrying a girl who was resisting. All in all, I appreciate the feedback but I do stand by my gut.

Thank you to all who replied.

-OP

Why should it matter that it's a private school? Do private school kids get treated with kid gloves? Oh yea, they do.. special snowflakes.

In this case it matters because what she describes would almost certainly be against the law or regulations in any public school system

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they pick her up while she was resisting?


Schools should, and usually do, have clear rules about touching children, restraining children, or moving children without their consent. If the child was resisting then carrying her wasn't safe or appropriate, unless there was a serious safety concern (e.g. as a teacher I can carry a kicking and screaming kid out of the building during a fire, but not during a fire drill). On the other hand, young kids are sometimes very willing to be carried, even when they are unhappy about something else. If she was OK with being picked up, then that is a different situation.

Thank you for this as I guess I was not clear. She was being carried while resisting and it seemed inappropriate for any teacher to do this if she was not harming anyone or being harmed. I'm going to ask about this policy.

No, you're not. You'd be so incredibly out of line. Of course the teacher can physically remove her from a situation where she's being disruptive. What is wrong with you to think otherwise?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you really know these parents, I would certainly mention to them that their child seemed to have a really rough day at school and they should try and understand why she was so upset at the singalong.
To be mad at a K teacher because she moved the kid away from the situation that was upsetting her (and away from all the other kids who were behving and trying to have a good experience) is something I just don't understand.
You really want the K teacher to do breathing exercises (or other "social emotional exercise" whatever the heck that even means) with this kid smack in the middle of the singalong? I don't think that would have been very effective anyway.

A few clarifications, this is a private school. There are 11 students and 2 teachers. It prides itself on a strong social-emotional foundation based on the Responsive Classroom curriculum. This was right after school started, not at the sing along, happening right outside the classroom.

I understand what many are saying in that teachers need to be able to get their classroom on track for the sake of the other students. However, I do think other tactics could have been used other than forcibly carrying a girl who was resisting. All in all, I appreciate the feedback but I do stand by my gut.

Thank you to all who replied.

-OP

Why should it matter that it's a private school? Do private school kids get treated with kid gloves? Oh yea, they do.. special snowflakes.

In this case it matters because what she describes would almost certainly be against the law or regulations in any public school system

What would be? Calming a child down?

Surely you don't mean to suggest carrying a disruptive child out of the room is against the law? It's not. Crazy people here.