FARMS numbers are up
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Anonymous
This. 100% this. Stop reading into it. There is no data that says % of overall FARM students have increased. If anything, I'd wager that it has decreased. |
Anonymous
What evidence is there that says FARM rate will negatively impact my AA DC that is extremely advanced and comes from $250k+ HHI? |
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I'm sure this discussion will go astray very soon, so let's enjoy it while it lasts: Yes, please, what evidence is there of any link between FARM rates and any one student's ability to succeed? Of course, FARM rates are correlated with lower average % achievement by the simple arithmetic fact that poverty correlates with achievement and that therefore both averages of that distribution correlate, too. That's a no-brainer; no need to prove that point. What I want proven is that the FARM rate in a classroom has a negative impact on any one student, especially on an otherwise predicted-to-well individual, as exemplified by PP. And I'd like that in a non-anecdotal fashion please.
Anecdotally I can prove the opposite to you. My mid-upper income and PhD-holding household's child sort of benefited from an environment in which many poor and thus struggling children needed extra help. Many more resources, more opportunities, and more attention came her/his way. |
Anonymous
Indeed. But when I saw the thread title I also thought someone was suggesting that rate of FARMS kids had increased in the most recently published data. |
Anonymous
| How is Title 1 decided? Does it depend on the percentage of FARMS? If so, what percentage? |
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http://dcps.dc.gov/TitleI There are two kinds of Title I programs: Schoolwide and Targeted Assistance. A school is eligible to become a Title I Schoolwide Program if 40% or more of the students qualify for free or reduced lunch. Eligible schools are permitted to use Title I, Part A funds in combination with state and local resources and other federal education program funds to upgrade the entire educational program of the school to raise the academic achievement of all students. A school is eligible to become a Title I Targeted Assistance Program if between 35-40% of the students qualify for free or reduced lunch. The term “targeted assistance” means that the services are provided to a select group of children—those identified as failing, or most at risk of failing, rather than for overall school improvement. **** I see that Watkins is 41% FARMS. I remember last year the school was Title 1 Targeted Assistance, but if it now is listing 41%, does that mean it should have been receiving full Title 1 funds all last year, and did not? Or is this going forward? |
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| What is this data showing? The percentage of FARMS kids in the school last year? Or the percentage of FARMS kids in the school this year? |
Anonymous
if you read next to student demographics, it says from last year. '14 to '15. |
Anonymous
| The data from our old school is clearly incorrect, it is NOT 99% FARM, they must have passed the threshold and be reporting it as 99 percent. Not only 1% white either. |
Anonymous
Yes your school is title 1. The race is accurate. Just because you assume there are more white kids doesn't mean that's how their parents identify that kid. |
Anonymous
But Watkins was not listed as a Title 1 school last year: http://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY%2014-15%20List%20of%20Title%20I%20Schools.pdf Should it have received more funds than it did? |
Anonymous
How do you know this? The PP did not list his/her school. If the PP had a 3 year old last year at my school, I can see why he or she might think that the school was more than 1%. Our school is now listed as being 2% white and unless I am very much mistaken, none of those white children are over the age of 5. But if you're just in the early childhood section of the school, you will see a lot more diversity. |
Anonymous
Here's one from Montgomery County: http://www.tcf.org/assets/downloads/tcf-Schwartz.pdf "Building on the strength of the random assignment of children to schools [because families were randomly assigned to different public housing developments, I examine the longitudinal school performance from 2001 to 2007 of approximately 850 students in public housing who attended elementary schools and lived in neighborhoods that fell along a spectrum of very-low poverty to moderate-poverty rates. In brief, I find that over a period of five to seven years, children in public housing who attended the school district’s most-advantaged schools (as measured by either subsidized lunch status or the district’s own criteria) far outperformed in math and reading those children in public housing who attended the district’s least-advantaged elementary schools." The study does not address the opposite scenario--when a child from a well-off family attends a high-poverty school. But http://www.prrac.org/pdf/annotated_bibliography_on_school_poverty_concentration.pdf does. In the introduction to its list of studies, it says that "Mary Kennedy in 1986 found that the relationship between school poverty concentrations and student achievement averages is stronger than the relationship between family poverty status and student achievement. Kennedy reported that nonpoor students attending schools with high concentrations of poverty are more likely to fall behind than are poor students who attend schools with low concentrations of poverty. Numerous studies substantiate Kennedy’s findings; and at this point there is no question that school poverty concentration has a detrimental impact on student achievement." It's good that your child has had a good experience. A lot probably depends on the needs and temperament of individual students, how good teachers are at differentiating, the personalities and skills and poverty levels of the parents (there's a big difference between two parents and a kid living off $40,000 and a single mom with 2 kids who gets $428 a month in TANF, but they both qualify for FARMs). Empirically, though, low-poverty schools are better for rich kids and poor ones. DC doesn't have enough rich kids to make every school low-poverty even if all kids went to public school and were willing to be equally distributed at schools around the District. One way to solve this is to help more families leave poverty. But that's hardly a simple thing to achieve. |
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| Uh oh! More FARMS, what does one do? Panic...I am sensing FARMS is coded-word. I guess it's an oxymoron with more FARMS and test scores rising and graduation rates increasing. I kind figuring it out...more is less in every sense of the word. There's no possible way you can be poor and do good in school, is it? Wait the most affluent DCPS high school has a graduation rate of 75% so a quarter of the kids don't graduate. I assuming the affluent FARM students are not graduating, if that's the case. |