Tell me about Olney Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sherwood has gangs too! and drugs-you cannot escape!

Who said anything about Sherwood being Utopia?

My point is this: if you bother to move out to Olney and want your kids to build friendships from K-HS, then buy in a neighborhood that feeds into Sherwood instead of buying into Cashell. Otherwise, your kid ends up at a different HS than all the kids he plays sports with, goes to CCD with, etc.

And in Sherwood vs. Magruder, Sherwood wins (by a lot). But Good Counsel trounces Sherwood.

PS - Olney is more Catholic and conservative than I anticipated. It doesn't really impact our lives, but it's something I try to keep in mind when chatting about politics, etc.

I don't get why. I have two kids at Magruder and they love it. There 's a lousy teacher here and there but the staff and coaches have great. I know several families who pulled their kids from Sherwood and put them in private...

[Anonymous]

Sherwood's SAT scores are surprisingly low. White kids at both Magruder and BlKe out score Sherwood by 100+ points, other groups at all schools score about the same.

I think this is supposed to mean Magruder and Blake kids are as/more college ready than Sherwood kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sherwood's SAT scores are surprisingly low. White kids at both Magruder and BlKe out score Sherwood by 100+ points, other groups at all schools score about the same.

I think this is supposed to mean Magruder and Blake kids are as/more college ready than Sherwood kids.

Can you post a link to the SAT scores for mcps schools? Or at least Sherwood, Magruder and Blake? Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sherwood's SAT scores are surprisingly low. White kids at both Magruder and BlKe out score Sherwood by 100+ points, other groups at all schools score about the same.

I think this is supposed to mean Magruder and Blake kids are as/more college ready than Sherwood kids.

Can you post a link to the SAT scores for mcps schools? Or at least Sherwood, Magruder and Blake? Thanks!

Scroll down - Table A8.
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/SATBOEMemo10614.pdf

combined scores for 2014:

Blake - 1555
Magruder - 1598
Sherwood - 1588

The extremes - Whitman, Wootton, Churchill, etc. - did very well. But what surprised me? combined score for Damascus - 1700! BCC was only 11 points higher.

[Anonymous]

Scroll down to table A12 for scores by race/ethnicity.

This is far more useful information.

[Anonymous]

What'2s the best Olney ES and why? Sherwood vs. .....?

[Anonymous]

Elementary schools? They were already ranked earlier in this thread.

Fwiw, Sherwood Elementary (which is in Sandy Spring, not Olney) must have a high farms rate since area congregations hold school supply drives for that school (and only that school as the rest of the Olney area schools have very low farms).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sherwood has gangs too! and drugs-you cannot escape!

Who said anything about Sherwood being Utopia?

My point is this: if you bother to move out to Olney and want your kids to build friendships from K-HS, then buy in a neighborhood that feeds into Sherwood instead of buying into Cashell. Otherwise, your kid ends up at a different HS than all the kids he plays sports with, goes to CCD with, etc.

And in Sherwood vs. Magruder, Sherwood wins (by a lot). But Good Counsel trounces Sherwood.

PS - Olney is more Catholic and conservative than I anticipated. It doesn't really impact our lives, but it's something I try to keep in mind when chatting about politics, etc.

Good Counsel's academic program isn't variably different than Sherwood. They do however cover up their controversies much better.

Actually it is. I would urge you to look at not only the programs offered but also how they are delivered.
In addition, as long as the county continues their educationally unsound policy of students finishing full year courses in one semester, the problems with achievement will continue. How many times are they going to lower the testing standards in order to be able to claim a higher "pass rate?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Elementary schools? They were already ranked earlier in this thread.

Fwiw, Sherwood Elementary (which is in Sandy Spring, not Olney) must have a high farms rate since area congregations hold school supply drives for that school (and only that school as the rest of the Olney area schools have very low farms).

what?



Olney ES, for example, has 21% FARMs; Sherwood ES is at 17%. That's a very insignificant difference.

Belmont is low at 6%. That is statistically significant.

omg - Your post is disgusting and must truly reflect how ignorant and racist you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elementary schools? They were already ranked earlier in this thread.

Fwiw, Sherwood Elementary (which is in Sandy Spring, not Olney) must have a high farms rate since area congregations hold school supply drives for that school (and only that school as the rest of the Olney area schools have very low farms).

what?



Olney ES, for example, has 21% FARMs; Sherwood ES is at 17%. That's a very insignificant difference.

Belmont is low at 6%. That is statistically significant.

omg - Your post is disgusting and must truly reflect how ignorant and racist you are.

I merely said Sherwood must have a high farms rate if places are holding school supply drives for the school. I live in the area, and I've never seen a drive for any other school. Not sure why you are flipping out, pp. I didn't advocate against that school--just pointed out that it isn't actually in Olney (since some posters are lumping in schools like cashell and cloverly as Olney schools).

[Anonymous]

Belmont is a small school (300 kids) that pretty much draws from one neighborhood (Olney mill, SFH).

Neighboring Greenwood (which is in Brookeville on the Olney border) has 500 students and has a farms rate around 8 or 9. It draws from many more neighborhoods---from farms, million dollar homes, SFHs built in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s, and a smattering of townhouses (not as many as other area schools).

Olney elementary is also large, and draws from an even more diverse area (with many more townhouses and rentals).

Brooke Grove is housed in a great neighborhood but also draws from neighborhoods with lots of townhomes and rental condos/apts. And it feeds into Farquahar, not Rosa.

If demographics matter to you, then you can read the stats online. If size matters, you can compare. If middle school matters, then figure that out before you buy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sherwood has gangs too! and drugs-you cannot escape!

Who said anything about Sherwood being Utopia?

My point is this: if you bother to move out to Olney and want your kids to build friendships from K-HS, then buy in a neighborhood that feeds into Sherwood instead of buying into Cashell. Otherwise, your kid ends up at a different HS than all the kids he plays sports with, goes to CCD with, etc.

And in Sherwood vs. Magruder, Sherwood wins (by a lot). But Good Counsel trounces Sherwood.

PS - Olney is more Catholic and conservative than I anticipated. It doesn't really impact our lives, but it's something I try to keep in mind when chatting about politics, etc.

Good Counsel's academic program isn't variably different than Sherwood. They do however cover up their controversies much better.

Actually it is. I would urge you to look at not only the programs offered but also how they are delivered.
In addition, as long as the county continues their educationally unsound policy of students finishing full year courses in one semester, the problems with achievement will continue. How many times are they going to lower the testing standards in order to be able to claim a higher "pass rate?"

I have looked at them. I know teachers from both schools. I know teachers who have taught at Good Counsel and for MCPS. Each school offers programs the other doesn't (GC has IB, Sherwood has more AP offerings, etc.). You can certainly make a reasonable argument that one might be better than the other but to suggest that Good Counsel "trounces" Sherwood means you either are drinking the Kool-Aid or simply have been drawn to hyperbole. If you think GC is stronger, fine, that's reasonable, but it certainly doesn't "trounce Sherwood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sherwood's SAT scores are surprisingly low. White kids at both Magruder and BlKe out score Sherwood by 100+ points, other groups at all schools score about the same.

I think this is supposed to mean Magruder and Blake kids are as/more college ready than Sherwood kids.

Can you post a link to the SAT scores for mcps schools? Or at least Sherwood, Magruder and Blake? Thanks!

Scroll down - Table A8.
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/SATBOEMemo10614.pdf

combined scores for 2014:

Blake - 1555
Magruder - 1598
Sherwood - 1588

The extremes - Whitman, Wootton, Churchill, etc. - did very well. But what surprised me? combined score for Damascus - 1700! BCC was only 11 points higher.

Yeah, DHS! Alum here, can't help. Damascus was always one of those middlin' schools. Not a lot of wealth, but not a lot of poverty either. Families in the middle and happy to stay that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sherwood has gangs too! and drugs-you cannot escape!

Who said anything about Sherwood being Utopia?

My point is this: if you bother to move out to Olney and want your kids to build friendships from K-HS, then buy in a neighborhood that feeds into Sherwood instead of buying into Cashell. Otherwise, your kid ends up at a different HS than all the kids he plays sports with, goes to CCD with, etc.

And in Sherwood vs. Magruder, Sherwood wins (by a lot). But Good Counsel trounces Sherwood.

PS - Olney is more Catholic and conservative than I anticipated. It doesn't really impact our lives, but it's something I try to keep in mind when chatting about politics, etc.

Good Counsel's academic program isn't variably different than Sherwood. They do however cover up their controversies much better.

Actually it is. I would urge you to look at not only the programs offered but also how they are delivered.
In addition, as long as the county continues their educationally unsound policy of students finishing full year courses in one semester, the problems with achievement will continue. How many times are they going to lower the testing standards in order to be able to claim a higher "pass rate?"

I have looked at them. I know teachers from both schools. I know teachers who have taught at Good Counsel and for MCPS. Each school offers programs the other doesn't (GC has IB, Sherwood has more AP offerings, etc.). You can certainly make a reasonable argument that one might be better than the other but to suggest that Good Counsel "trounces" Sherwood means you either are drinking the Kool-Aid or simply have been drawn to hyperbole. If you think GC is stronger, fine, that's reasonable, but it certainly doesn't "trounce Sherwood.

Good Counsel was a dump when I was in high school. It was the lowest Catholic school in the group that took the worst kids. (I know. Many of my cousins went, and one was kicked out. lol)

Its reputation improved only b/c of the move. Academically, it's mediocre. If you have the $, Prep is a much better choice (for boys, that is). And while I love the Olney/Ashton/Brookeville area, many who send their kids to GC think they have $ - but really can't compete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sherwood has gangs too! and drugs-you cannot escape!

Who said anything about Sherwood being Utopia?

My point is this: if you bother to move out to Olney and want your kids to build friendships from K-HS, then buy in a neighborhood that feeds into Sherwood instead of buying into Cashell. Otherwise, your kid ends up at a different HS than all the kids he plays sports with, goes to CCD with, etc.

And in Sherwood vs. Magruder, Sherwood wins (by a lot). But Good Counsel trounces Sherwood.

PS - Olney is more Catholic and conservative than I anticipated. It doesn't really impact our lives, but it's something I try to keep in mind when chatting about politics, etc.

Good Counsel's academic program isn't variably different than Sherwood. They do however cover up their controversies much better.

Actually it is. I would urge you to look at not only the programs offered but also how they are delivered.
In addition, as long as the county continues their educationally unsound policy of students finishing full year courses in one semester, the problems with achievement will continue. How many times are they going to lower the testing standards in order to be able to claim a higher "pass rate?"

I have looked at them. I know teachers from both schools. I know teachers who have taught at Good Counsel and for MCPS. Each school offers programs the other doesn't (GC has IB, Sherwood has more AP offerings, etc.). You can certainly make a reasonable argument that one might be better than the other but to suggest that Good Counsel "trounces" Sherwood means you either are drinking the Kool-Aid or simply have been drawn to hyperbole. If you think GC is stronger, fine, that's reasonable, but it certainly doesn't "trounce Sherwood.

I am 12:34. I did not use the word "trounce" I am the poster who took issue with the idea that Good Counsel and Sherwood academic programs are not all that different.
They clearly are. You were responding to me and then went back and used an inflammatory term like "trounce" from the other poster's comments.
As an educator, I have some real concerns with the county's "delivery system" at the high school level. So, in that respect ,yes, I do believe that Good Counsel offers a better program.