Prisoner escaped from INOVA - So what good did guns do us in this scenario?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we always hear about how guns are the answer to keeping us safe from the "bad guys". The assumption is that if you have a gun, and the "bad guy" does not, you are safe and infallible.

Strawman.

Nobody argues that guns make you safe and infallible.

Moron.

I'll bite. So if the argument isn't that more guns make us safer (because we can defend ourselves), then what is the argument?

As long as criminals have guns (and they get them illegally, by the way), I am happy we own a gun and at least have a chance to adequately defend ourselves in the event some nut bag decides to break into our house.
That doesn’t mean there are not risks. Guns, nor people are infallible.

Gun free Georgis Tech has had 11 armed robberies on campus this past year. One in an academic building. Why? Because the moment you step off campus, you can carry. Criminals aren't stupid - they come right to where they know even the permit owning students can't carry.

[Anonymous]

My guess is he's on his way to MD or DC where the decent folks aren't armed

[Anonymous]

He surrendered knowing those coming after him were armed.

[Anonymous]

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maybe he will make his way over to the NRA HQ - it's not that far away...


That would be great - he would be dead in an instant. Good outcome.

More likely they would shoot each other and he would have more guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we always hear about how guns are the answer to keeping us safe from the "bad guys". The assumption is that if you have a gun, and the "bad guy" does not, you are safe and infallible.

Strawman.

Nobody argues that guns make you safe and infallible.

Moron.

I'll bite. So if the argument isn't that more guns make us safer (because we can defend ourselves), then what is the argument?

The argument is indeed that guns make you safer.

The argument is NOT that guns make you 100% guaranteed, always and forever infallibly safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And if you are 1) asleep 2) not able to get to your gun in time/bad guy gets the jump on you

What use is the gun then? None. It is more likely to be used against you/someone in your household than against a burglar in a home invasion.

Enjoy your false sense of security. I personally would rather have a home alarm system and/or a dog to ward off break ins.

I have an alarm system precisely so that I will wake up and have time to get my gun before the bad guy gets the jump on me.

Enjoy your false sense of security that the alarm alone protects you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we always hear about how guns are the answer to keeping us safe from the "bad guys". The assumption is that if you have a gun, and the "bad guy" does not, you are safe and infallible.

Strawman.

Nobody argues that guns make you safe and infallible.

Moron.

I'll bite. So if the argument isn't that more guns make us safer (because we can defend ourselves), then what is the argument?

The argument is indeed that guns make you safer.

The argument is NOT that guns make you 100% guaranteed, always and forever infallibly safe.

Our crime rates seem awfully high compared to countries with stricter gun laws. Even if you pull out crime by blacks, which is sometimes used as the excuse, the crime rate is still very high, especially homicide.

[Anonymous]

Where on earth do you people live that you are shooting armed intruders in your own homes? Having easily accessible handguns poses a much greater threat to your safety (and to that of your children!) than the spectre of some armed bandit breaking down your doors and windows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where on earth do you people live that you are shooting armed intruders in your own homes? Having easily accessible handguns poses a much greater threat to your safety (and to that of your children!) than the spectre of some armed bandit breaking down your doors and windows.

Since the guns are not easily accessible to children your argument fails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where on earth do you people live that you are shooting armed intruders in your own homes? Having easily accessible handguns poses a much greater threat to your safety (and to that of your children!) than the spectre of some armed bandit breaking down your doors and windows.

Since the guns are not easily accessible to children your argument fails.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our crime rates seem awfully high compared to countries with stricter gun laws. Even if you pull out crime by blacks, which is sometimes used as the excuse, the crime rate is still very high, especially homicide.

Nah. Take blacks out of the equation and we are comparable to the Europeans.

It ain't an "excuse"... it is a reason.

[Anonymous]

A new (to me anyway) factoid that sheds light on the issue:

Despite being in shackles, Assaye allegedly overpowered a female private security guard about 3 a.m. after the second guard left the room.

Women have no business guarding violent felons. Women are too weak in body and mind to keep such animals in check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A new (to me anyway) factoid that sheds light on the issue:

Despite being in shackles, Assaye allegedly overpowered a female private security guard about 3 a.m. after the second guard left the room.

Women have no business guarding violent felons. Women are too weak in body and mind to keep such animals in check.

But but but... she had a gun!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our crime rates seem awfully high compared to countries with stricter gun laws. Even if you pull out crime by blacks, which is sometimes used as the excuse, the crime rate is still very high, especially homicide.

Nah. Take blacks out of the equation and we are comparable to the Europeans.

It ain't an "excuse"... it is a reason.

That is untrue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And if you are 1) asleep 2) not able to get to your gun in time/bad guy gets the jump on you

What use is the gun then? None. It is more likely to be used against you/someone in your household than against a burglar in a home invasion.

Enjoy your false sense of security. I personally would rather have a home alarm system and/or a dog to ward off break ins.

I have an alarm system precisely so that I will wake up and have time to get my gun before the bad guy gets the jump on me.

Enjoy your false sense of security that the alarm alone protects you.

Wow, it sounds like you've thought of every possible scenario!

The chances of an armed home invasion are slim to none for the average citizen. If you involved in a gang or are a drug dealer, or some other person who would be expected to have hoards of valuables locked up in the house, then I see how it would be something to be concerned about.

Most burglars are looking for easy targets (when people aren't home, unlocked doors or left open garage doors). Most people are not going to forcibly break into your home and hold you at gunpoint just to steal your TV/Computers/cash in the house/jewelry. It seems particularly unlikely if you've got an alarm system or a guard animal. The criminals could easily find another house that doesn't have those things that would be an easier target.