Do you think DCPS hired Relisha Rudd's mother as a school aide?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If she is a school aide and her boys are school age why would her job conflict with visitation? Wouldn't the boys be in school when she was at work? Do they pull kids out of school for visitation?

In my heart I know she sold her daughter to traffickers. I hope she never gets those boys back.

What makes you think this?

Not the PP, but a big part of the delay in realizing Relisha was missing was that the mom told several people that she was with "Doctor _______" (the guy who ended up killing his wife and then himself). Her misleading people asking where Relisha was (and no one doing real follow up until the school figured out something was up) delayed any investigation for weeks.

Also, somewhere (facebook? instagram?) somewhere the mom posted photos of her and her fiance with a lot of cash. Thus the theories that she sold her to traffickers, although I think she only sold the poor girl to one horrific person: the janitor at the shelter.

[Anonymous]

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/dc/2014/04/04/relisha-rudd-cash-facebook/7319811/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I don't think she would have the educational background to be an instructional aide but maybe she'd work in the cafeteria or something? (even still, you'd think that require a background check)

You know obviously jack about what it takes to be an educational aide. They're not exactly cream of the crop. Background checks can be essentially meaningless.

Mohamed Atta's visa was approved 6 months after 9/11, so if people don't recognize Rudd's mother by a different surname, I don't blame them: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/six-months-later-ins-approves-terrorist-visas

At least she's trying to get a job and be a productive member of society. I don't think she should work with kids though.

Job requires at least an associates. Pretty sure she does not have that.

http://dcps.dc.gov/DCPS/About+DCPS/Career+Opportunities/Teach+in+Our+Schools/Position+Overviews/Educational+Aides

Anyway it just says school aide. So it could have been a cHarter or dcps or private or a preschool. My guess is the latter

[Anonymous]

This is horrifying and needs to be investigated.

[Anonymous]

It is pretty disturbing to me that you can get hired as a daycare/preschool aide (private?) after your children have been taken away by CPS.

[Anonymous]

Another terrible reporting piece by Washington Post.

[Anonymous]

I am hoping that the mom will be arrested soon and spend the rest of her life in jail for contributing to the death of her daughter. She gave/sold her to the janitor then lied for MONTH about her wherabouts. She is horrible. Someone needs to find out what school hired her and the parents need to demand that the principal be fired immediately. I also don['t think people realize she had an older kid with a different father who was killed by that father. This woman has the emotional ability of a 6 year old. I can't believe a judge won't just sever her parental rights already.

[Anonymous]

You know, I have been pretty frustrated with the discussion of this case on this site. Severing someone's parental rights is a really big deal. Arresting someone for the thing y'all are suggesting is also a really big deal. There are processes to be followed, which include evidence being presented. If the big stacks of cash came from checks that Young's boyfriend cashed, that is something that can be verified. If it's cash from Tatum, I assume that can also be verified, given that the police were able to identify purchases he made before his death. How exactly do you want them to arrest and charge her with contributing to the death of a girl who has not been pronounced dead?

As for lying about where her daughter was, that actually doesn't surprise me. If she thought she was doing the best thing she could for her daughter (allowing her to live with someone she believed was trustworthy rather than in the shelter that Relisha hated), but knew that people would take issue with her actions, I am not surprised that she would fabricate a more sympathetic story.

Of course, it's possible that you all are completely right, that she was just a horrible person. But spare us the faux outrage. Most of the people on this site wouldn't have wanted Relisha in the same class as your kids and you know it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another terrible reporting piece by Washington Post.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know, I have been pretty frustrated with the discussion of this case on this site. Severing someone's parental rights is a really big deal. Arresting someone for the thing y'all are suggesting is also a really big deal. There are processes to be followed, which include evidence being presented. If the big stacks of cash came from checks that Young's boyfriend cashed, that is something that can be verified. If it's cash from Tatum, I assume that can also be verified, given that the police were able to identify purchases he made before his death. How exactly do you want them to arrest and charge her with contributing to the death of a girl who has not been pronounced dead?

As for lying about where her daughter was, that actually doesn't surprise me. If she thought she was doing the best thing she could for her daughter (allowing her to live with someone she believed was trustworthy rather than in the shelter that Relisha hated), but knew that people would take issue with her actions, I am not surprised that she would fabricate a more sympathetic story.

Of course, it's possible that you all are completely right, that she was just a horrible person. But spare us the faux outrage. Most of the people on this site wouldn't have wanted Relisha in the same class as your kids and you know it.

Get off your high horse. I wouldn't mind relisha rudd in school at all as long as her mother was in prison and lost all parental rights. This girl would be alive if CPS had more authority to sever the parental rights years ago. Where there is smoke there is usally fire. Multiple complaints of abuse but nothing big enough to remove the kids from the house? Give me a break. This woman never ever shoudl have had kids. I worked for ONE year in social services in another state and I can tell you wtih absolute certainty that until we offer free, comprehensive birth control we will never lift folks out of poverty or cycles of abuse. Relisha didn't stand a chance. Neither did her mom quite frankly. But now its too late. Relisha would have been better off in an orphanage than in an abusive neglectful house. I got out of social work because I realized its all politically driven and no one wants to state the reality which is that some people just can't be parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know, I have been pretty frustrated with the discussion of this case on this site. Severing someone's parental rights is a really big deal. Arresting someone for the thing y'all are suggesting is also a really big deal. There are processes to be followed, which include evidence being presented. If the big stacks of cash came from checks that Young's boyfriend cashed, that is something that can be verified. If it's cash from Tatum, I assume that can also be verified, given that the police were able to identify purchases he made before his death. How exactly do you want them to arrest and charge her with contributing to the death of a girl who has not been pronounced dead?

As for lying about where her daughter was, that actually doesn't surprise me. If she thought she was doing the best thing she could for her daughter (allowing her to live with someone she believed was trustworthy rather than in the shelter that Relisha hated), but knew that people would take issue with her actions, I am not surprised that she would fabricate a more sympathetic story.

Of course, it's possible that you all are completely right, that she was just a horrible person. But spare us the faux outrage. Most of the people on this site wouldn't have wanted Relisha in the same class as your kids and you know it.

Get off your high horse. I wouldn't mind relisha rudd in school at all as long as her mother was in prison and lost all parental rights. This girl would be alive if CPS had more authority to sever the parental rights years ago. Where there is smoke there is usally fire. Multiple complaints of abuse but nothing big enough to remove the kids from the house? Give me a break. This woman never ever shoudl have had kids. I worked for ONE year in social services in another state and I can tell you wtih absolute certainty that until we offer free, comprehensive birth control we will never lift folks out of poverty or cycles of abuse. Relisha didn't stand a chance. Neither did her mom quite frankly. But now its too late. Relisha would have been better off in an orphanage than in an abusive neglectful house. I got out of social work because I realized its all politically driven and no one wants to state the reality which is that some people just can't be parents.

Given the contempt you apparently have for your clients, I think it's a very good thing you got out of social work.

[Anonymous]

Not contempt. Pity. Most of them were really trying to get out of shitty situations but would end up pregnant and without child care- thus unable to get work. Over and over I saw this. Its defeating. So unless you have actually worked in the field you really have no clue what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not contempt. Pity. Most of them were really trying to get out of shitty situations but would end up pregnant and without child care- thus unable to get work. Over and over I saw this. Its defeating. So unless you have actually worked in the field you really have no clue what you are talking about.

I actually do work in the field. I agree that it's demoralizing. I also think that it's possible to approach these things with compassion, even year after year. I understand that that was not your experience, which is why I think it's good you've found other work. I hope you are finding it more empowering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know, I have been pretty frustrated with the discussion of this case on this site. Severing someone's parental rights is a really big deal. Arresting someone for the thing y'all are suggesting is also a really big deal. There are processes to be followed, which include evidence being presented. If the big stacks of cash came from checks that Young's boyfriend cashed, that is something that can be verified. If it's cash from Tatum, I assume that can also be verified, given that the police were able to identify purchases he made before his death. How exactly do you want them to arrest and charge her with contributing to the death of a girl who has not been pronounced dead?

As for lying about where her daughter was, that actually doesn't surprise me. If she thought she was doing the best thing she could for her daughter (allowing her to live with someone she believed was trustworthy rather than in the shelter that Relisha hated), but knew that people would take issue with her actions, I am not surprised that she would fabricate a more sympathetic story.

Of course, it's possible that you all are completely right, that she was just a horrible person. But spare us the faux outrage. Most of the people on this site wouldn't have wanted Relisha in the same class as your kids and you know it.

I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt and I have a lot of sympathy for Relisha Rudd's mother, who grew up with few resources, role models, support, etc. I think the evidence suggests that she is an unfit mother but of course none of us know for sure.

But WTF are you talking about that none of us would want Relisha in their child's class? Why on earth not? This was a precious second-grader. A blameless innocent child. I wish she had been in my child's school, maybe they would have helped her more (which is not to malign Payne, especially when the school was the one who eventually realized Relisha was missing).

I think of that child all the time. It is heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know, I have been pretty frustrated with the discussion of this case on this site. Severing someone's parental rights is a really big deal. Arresting someone for the thing y'all are suggesting is also a really big deal. There are processes to be followed, which include evidence being presented. If the big stacks of cash came from checks that Young's boyfriend cashed, that is something that can be verified. If it's cash from Tatum, I assume that can also be verified, given that the police were able to identify purchases he made before his death. How exactly do you want them to arrest and charge her with contributing to the death of a girl who has not been pronounced dead?

As for lying about where her daughter was, that actually doesn't surprise me. If she thought she was doing the best thing she could for her daughter (allowing her to live with someone she believed was trustworthy rather than in the shelter that Relisha hated), but knew that people would take issue with her actions, I am not surprised that she would fabricate a more sympathetic story.

Of course, it's possible that you all are completely right, that she was just a horrible person. But spare us the faux outrage. Most of the people on this site wouldn't have wanted Relisha in the same class as your kids and you know it.

I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt and I have a lot of sympathy for Relisha Rudd's mother, who grew up with few resources, role models, support, etc. I think the evidence suggests that she is an unfit mother but of course none of us know for sure.

But WTF are you talking about that none of us would want Relisha in their child's class? Why on earth not? This was a precious second-grader. A blameless innocent child. I wish she had been in my child's school, maybe they would have helped her more (which is not to malign Payne, especially when the school was the one who eventually realized Relisha was missing).

I think of that child all the time. It is heartbreaking.

How many threads have you seen discussing "at risk kids", "FARMs" "OOB kids" and "low SES kids" as being undesirable, disruptive, etc.? How many people were really upset about the at-risk student preference? This little girl was all of those things.

I think it's really easy for people to write off entire groups of kids as being undesirable, but when it is personalized, they have different feelings about it. I'm glad that you would welcome a homeless kid who receives free meals out of bounds at your school. I wish more people were that welcoming. However, my experience with reading this forum is that there are an awful lot of people who are not.