Unstuck and on Target Saturday Social skills group at Ivymount school

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ugh, sorry OP. Kids with behavioral challenges are the red headed stepchildren of the SN world. Trust me, I know.


My kid's behavioral challenges are not out of line with kids with autism and he is not aggressive, and only appeared this year in second grade mostly due to inadequate supports at school: they weren't following his IEP and we have a complaint against the school currently filed with OSSE. He has a behavioral plan at school now but it's only been in use since Dec. DS is fully mainstreamed.

MAP knows some of this b/c our former developmental pediatrician spoke to the head of MAP and we were considering applying to MAP (with funding). Never in a million years now...
Anonymous
Wow. I do find it shocking that a kid who is fully mainstreamed was deemed to have too many behavioral problems to work out in their social skills group. That sucks, Ivymount.
Anonymous
Crazy conspiracy theorist here: Do they have openings they are trying to fill in the full-day school program?
Anonymous
Will MCPS pay for a private placement at Ivymount if a child is mainstreamed in general education? In FCPS the child basically has to be unteachable for them to pay for private.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Will MCPS pay for a private placement at Ivymount if a child is mainstreamed in general education? In FCPS the child basically has to be unteachable for them to pay for private.


We are at a DC language immersion charter and the school will love to see us go especially since we filed the complaint with OSSE. But don't know what OSSE will say since DS is above grade level academically and the behavior plan that they put in place appears to be working although like I said, it's only been in place since Dec.

Our former developmental pediatrician was very gung ho about MAP especially b/c he told us the same thing when DS was in preK. He is our former doctor b/c he seemed like he talked and listened to everyone except us, the parents, including MAP without our permission violating HIPAA but that's a whole other can of worms.
Anonymous
Op -- I'm confused. Your dev ped told you three yrs ago you shld go to map, dismissed your concerns, and now that your kid is having trouble in school, clalled map to discuss your kid, and then the social skills group rescinded the offer?
Anonymous
I'm on the fence about social skills groups and am following this thread with interest. My child could certainly benefit from social skills lessons, but I wonder if he'd be able to apply anything he is taught. Plus he is in a special needs school and isn't that, in essence, a social skills group? If he it's in school all day in a place http pays attention to this stuff, why would a social skills group be any better or different?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Op -- I'm confused. Your dev ped told you three yrs ago you shld go to map, dismissed your concerns, and now that your kid is having trouble in school, clalled map to discuss your kid, and then the social skills group rescinded the offer?


That's pretty much the time line.

Yes developmental pediatrician thought MAP was the best "fit" and that DS should go there starting in 2nd grade. When DS started having problems this year at his charter, developmental pediatrician basically told us his issues were inevitable b/c the current school is not a good fit, called MAP, and told us that he and Monica, head of MAP, thought MAP was the best place for him.

I don't know if developmental pediatrician speaking with Monica had anything to do with rescinding the acceptance and I actually don't have a problem with Unstuck not accepting him if they can't meet his needs. But I have a HUGE problem with telling someone that they are accepted into a program and then rescinding their offer later.

If Unstuck had told us that they needed more information/observations before making a decision, that's fine but telling someone that they are accepted into a program and than deciding that it won't work after all. I mean, what kind of person or business does that?!?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm on the fence about social skills groups and am following this thread with interest. My child could certainly benefit from social skills lessons, but I wonder if he'd be able to apply anything he is taught. Plus he is in a special needs school and isn't that, in essence, a social skills group? If he it's in school all day in a place http pays attention to this stuff, why would a social skills group be any better or different?


Many SN schools, like MAP and Auburn, have social skills embedded into their curriculum. My kid is suppose to get pragmatic speech therapy in his IEP but didn't this year which is part of what was causing the problems and thus applying to Unstuck. We found in previous years that general ed and SN teachers who have knowledge about helping with social skills and practicing what DS learns in speech therapy worked well for application of skills.
Anonymous
Op -- I'm sorry this happened. Do you think you will leave your charter, or is the behavior plan helping? And did the dev ped admit he was wrong?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Op -- I'm sorry this happened. Do you think you will leave your charter, or is the behavior plan helping? And did the dev ped admit he was wrong?


We will be leaving our charter and the behavior plan is working well so far but we are very unhappy with their Sp Ed department.

We fired our developmental pediatrician and no, he never admitted anything. He means well but he is an arrogant so and so, who doesn't listen (to us at least). He did listen to our school and did not catch that they were not following the IEP.
Anonymous
Were you happy w the charter before this?

Beside map, what are your options?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Were you happy w the charter before this?

Beside map, what are your options?


We LOVED our charter until this grade. The supports DS got in past grades were awesome. Unfortunately, we have a whole new Sp Ed department this year.

We are not applying to MAP. We visited and disliked it and won't be considering it at all now.

Our option is Auburn which we like alot and/or we will move out of this area.
Anonymous
Sorry OP. I hope it works out for you...I'm glad to hear the behavioral plan is working now that the charter is on its toes. That sucks - but if it's working, will OSSE agree that the school is unable to provide FAPE? Confusing! For you too, I'm sure.

This sounds like a ton of stress - I'm sorry!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP. I hope it works out for you...I'm glad to hear the behavioral plan is working now that the charter is on its toes. That sucks - but if it's working, will OSSE agree that the school is unable to provide FAPE? Confusing! For you too, I'm sure.

This sounds like a ton of stress - I'm sorry!


If the behavioral plan works, we most likely won't get funding since the school is providing FAPE in a LRE. Auburn does not get funding but MAP will be off the table which is ok with us especially now.

Yes, freaky stressful. DS is currently getting neuropsych testing. Will see what the neuropsychologist recommends for supports and therapies.

Thanks for the encouragement!
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