Colgate v. Colby v. Kenyon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colby is at least a notch above the other two. Like Cornell compared to Georgetown and UNC.

Unless there is a compelling reason to choose one of the other two (which your question suggests is not the case) Colby is the obvious choice.

I think Colgate has the best academic reputation. Haven't ever run into a Colby grad.

So in your personal rankings Colgate outranks Colby.

Among those who've heard of both school,s Colby (15) outranks Colgate (22): http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/data

[Anonymous]

Totally agree that Colgate is the best. I am guessing Colby may have had a good run in the ratings lately and it is a good school. But Colgate is little 3 and those (Willams and Haverford being the other two) go way back as very good schools. Their alumnae communities are great and they are traditionally feeders to Ivy Grad schools. In my private prep school experience, Colgate was for good students who were smart. Kenyon and Colby were for decent students who weren't dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Totally agree that Colgate is the best. I am guessing Colby may have had a good run in the ratings lately and it is a good school. But Colgate is little 3 and those (Willams and Haverford being the other two) go way back as very good schools. Their alumnae communities are great and they are traditionally feeders to Ivy Grad schools. In my private prep school experience, Colgate was for good students who were smart. Kenyon and Colby were for decent students who weren't dumb.

The “Little Three is Amherst, Wesleyan, and Williams.

The “Little Ivies” is not an official term, but it refers to highly selective Northeast SLACS, Amherst, Williams, Wesleyan, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, Colgate, Haverford, Swarthmore, and Vassar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colby is at least a notch above the other two. Like Cornell compared to Georgetown and UNC.

Unless there is a compelling reason to choose one of the other two (which your question suggests is not the case) Colby is the obvious choice.

I think Colgate has the best academic reputation. Haven't ever run into a Colby grad.

So in your personal rankings Colgate outranks Colby.

Among those who've heard of both school,s Colby (15) outranks Colgate (22): http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/data

I don't have a dog in this fight, not having gone to any of these schools (something tells me you are a Colby alum). However, the U.S. News ranking difference isn't that impressive as there are only two actual places between Colgate and Colby (three schools tied to 15 so skips to 19 and three schools tied for 19 and so skips to 22). Never met anyone from Colby, had a bunch of friends from Colgate who went to Ivy league grad school with me so that is the basis for my personal opinion.

I'd also say that there isn't any difference between Georgetown, North Carolina, and Cornell -- all great schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Totally agree that Colgate is the best. I am guessing Colby may have had a good run in the ratings lately and it is a good school. But Colgate is little 3 and those (Willams and Haverford being the other two) go way back as very good schools. Their alumnae communities are great and they are traditionally feeders to Ivy Grad schools. In my private prep school experience, Colgate was for good students who were smart. Kenyon and Colby were for decent students who weren't dumb.

The “Little Three is Amherst, Wesleyan, and Williams.

The “Little Ivies” is not an official term, but it refers to highly selective Northeast SLACS, Amherst, Williams, Wesleyan, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, Colgate, Haverford, Swarthmore, and Vassar.

There's quite a gap between Amherst, Swarthmore, Wliams ... and Colbu, Colgate and Trinity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Totally agree that Colgate is the best. I am guessing Colby may have had a good run in the ratings lately and it is a good school. But Colgate is little 3 and those (Willams and Haverford being the other two) go way back as very good schools. Their alumnae communities are great and they are traditionally feeders to Ivy Grad schools. In my private prep school experience, Colgate was for good students who were smart. Kenyon and Colby were for decent students who weren't dumb.

Hard to think of a better way to make yourself to look stupid than to refer incorrectly to the Little 3 (Amherst, Williams, Wesleyan) as including Colgate, while dropping in a gratuitous reference to your "private prep school experience." Apparently, it was all for naught.

- Public school graduate admitted to each of the Little 3 and who knows smart people who have gone to each of Colgate, Colby and, especially, Kenyon

[Anonymous]

That was me. I goofed. My family member who went to Amherst would smack me. Total brainfart.

I do maintain my other comments about Colgate. My family is a bunch of northeasterners and the northern SLACS were all I ever heard about and I did go to a prep school in DC. I also went to law school and met those SLAC grads on the other side (I went to large state U much to the horror of my parents and my prep school even though it was much better that some of the slacs my classmates went to. But i digress...).

I just never heard Colby or Kenyon mentioned in the same breath as Colgate. Colgate was discussed by people considering Amherst, Williams, Davidson, Bucknell, Lehigh, etc. Those people were hoping for Ivy but knew it wasn't likely. Colby and Kenyon were mentioned by people who were also looking at Union and Gettysburg and Dickinson. Totally different league of schools.

I know I totally goofed and did a face palm as I was making dinner last night. But I also checked US News and sure enough Colby is ranked higher than Colgate. Things have changed a lot since I looked at school.

Not admitted to little 3 but also didn't apply. Admitted to Mt. Holyoke, Lehigh, and Wake Forest but chose State U. Go public schools!

[Anonymous]

USNEWS is one thing, but dentists recommend Colgate:

http://joncomulada.wordpress.com/2013/02/13/colgate-finally-convinces-10th-dentist-to-recommend-their-toothpaste/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:USNEWS is one thing, but dentists recommend Colgate:

http://joncomulada.wordpress.com/2013/02/13/colgate-finally-convinces-10th-dentist-to-recommend-their-toothpaste/

[Anonymous]

Colby is for private school NE kids who couldn't get in to other good schools. BB&N in MA sends half the graduating class to Colby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Totally agree that Colgate is the best. I am guessing Colby may have had a good run in the ratings lately and it is a good school. But Colgate is little 3 and those (Willams and Haverford being the other two) go way back as very good schools. Their alumnae communities are great and they are traditionally feeders to Ivy Grad schools. In my private prep school experience, Colgate was for good students who were smart. Kenyon and Colby were for decent students who weren't dumb.

As subsequent posters pointed out, you're talking through your posterior. Don't make stuff up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Waterville Maine and Hamilton, NY are not exactly in the middle of everything either.

Yeah but Colby is an hour and a quarter to Portland which is a great little city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is, the distinctions between liberal arts schools of this caliber come down to student vibe, weather, geography, athletic division, etc. Academically there just isn't much light between them and any of the dozens of other fine small schools in their league. But I've been to each, have employed grads from each too, and they do have different personalities -- which is why college visits to SLACs are highly recommended IMO. Once they're on campus, kids tend to have strong gut instincts about SLACs that have little correlation to rankings -- at least that was our experience.

I like your reasoning. My kid didn't like Kenyon because it was too in the middle of nowhere, didn't like Colgate because of the frat scene and ended up choosing Colby. The weather in central Maine is starting to bug her a little though I have to admit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That was me. I goofed. My family member who went to Amherst would smack me. Total brainfart.

I do maintain my other comments about Colgate. My family is a bunch of northeasterners and the northern SLACS were all I ever heard about and I did go to a prep school in DC. I also went to law school and met those SLAC grads on the other side (I went to large state U much to the horror of my parents and my prep school even though it was much better that some of the slacs my classmates went to. But i digress...).

I just never heard Colby or Kenyon mentioned in the same breath as Colgate. Colgate was discussed by people considering Amherst, Williams, Davidson, Bucknell, Lehigh, etc. Those people were hoping for Ivy but knew it wasn't likely. Colby and Kenyon were mentioned by people who were also looking at Union and Gettysburg and Dickinson. Totally different league of schools.

I know I totally goofed and did a face palm as I was making dinner last night. But I also checked US News and sure enough Colby is ranked higher than Colgate. Things have changed a lot since I looked at school.

Not admitted to little 3 but also didn't apply. Admitted to Mt. Holyoke, Lehigh, and Wake Forest but chose State U. Go public schools!

Are Lehigh and Bucknell now often in the same sentence as Amherst and Williams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colby is at least a notch above the other two. Like Cornell compared to Georgetown and UNC.

Unless there is a compelling reason to choose one of the other two (which your question suggests is not the case) Colby is the obvious choice.

I think Colgate has the best academic reputation. Haven't ever run into a Colby grad.

So in your personal rankings Colgate outranks Colby.

Among those who've heard of both school,s Colby (15) outranks Colgate (22): http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/data

I don't have a dog in this fight, not having gone to any of these schools (something tells me you are a Colby alum). However, the U.S. News ranking difference isn't that impressive as there are only two actual places between Colgate and Colby (three schools tied to 15 so skips to 19 and three schools tied for 19 and so skips to 22). Never met anyone from Colby, had a bunch of friends from Colgate who went to Ivy league grad school with me so that is the basis for my personal opinion.

I'd also say that there isn't any difference between Georgetown, North Carolina, and Cornell -- all great schools.

Well...no. Surely there are differences between Cornell and North Carolina.