MCPS policy on not returning quizzes, tests and exams to students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was the main reason we left for private (although my youngest is in public K)

It truly is as ass-backwards as you can get. No tests returned home because of policy. Quizzes, assignments, projects, and papers had ZERO (and I do mean zero) comments, suggestions, where to improve etc..

I as a working mom would have to take off of work early to go to the school to actual see the tests in a whopping 5-10min conference. Only way they will let you see them. Most of the time the teachers seemed annoyed I was wasting their time. Like why should I care what they got wrong? I already saw the score. SO frustrating! They will not let you copy any problems down for you to go over at home with your child. Once the test is done, the move onto the next item no matter how bad everyone did on it. It was really just an awful system. No parent I knew was okay with it but just shrugged it off as policy.

In my kids new school, we receive every test, quiz, project, grade home and MUST sign and return within 48hrs or another point off the test. There are comments written, sentences circled with positive comments. Errors shown and explained. Paragraph at the end saying what they like, room for improvement. For math tests, every problem the child gets wrong, they must redo and submit within 48hrs. If they do, they add a few % back to the test. If they don't, they lose 2%. It just reinforces, show accountability, teaches and not memorizes. It has made such a difference in their work and study habits and attitude.

Again, this is dependent on the teacher. My 1st and 4th graders' HWs, CWs gets sent home with some comments by the teacher.. ie, more detail, "why did xyz... please expand more".. etc. We're in MoCo, not a W school. Some of them don't have any comments even if they got a P. That's ok. I don't need to have a comment on every paper that is not perfect. I can already see what's missing or wrong in some cases.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about class tests or standards assessment tests? Class tests policy is probably teacher specific. For standards, I think most are supposed to be mailed to the parents. I've certainly received several of DC's test scores in the mail.

Just scores? Not actual tests?

A lot of the assessment tests are taken online, and no you don't get them back. I don't ever remember getting my SAT tests back, only the test scores.

True, you don't get your SAT tests back, but that was the FIRST test I didn't get back in my entire education. So I don't think that proves that this is normal.

[Anonymous]

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What are the "county wide assessments"? Is that most of the tests? Or is it just one test/year or something

I'm not sure all of what are county wide, but the summatives are typically county wide and you can't get copies. That being said, I've never had a problem getting teachers to meet with me to talk about my kids' difficulties.

This seems truly bizarre. What's their excuse for this?
Why should I have to make an appointment to see my kid's test?

Because the school/teacher would like to know what time to expect you.

Don't be an ass. The alternative isn't just showing up without an appointment. The alternative is sending the graded test home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about class tests or standards assessment tests? Class tests policy is probably teacher specific. For standards, I think most are supposed to be mailed to the parents. I've certainly received several of DC's test scores in the mail.

Just scores? Not actual tests?

A lot of the assessment tests are taken online, and no you don't get them back. I don't ever remember getting my SAT tests back, only the test scores.

True, you don't get your SAT tests back, but that was the FIRST test I didn't get back in my entire education. So I don't think that proves that this is normal.

The students get their tests back, as far as I know. It's just that the parents don't get the students' tests back, and the students don't take the tests home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about class tests or standards assessment tests? Class tests policy is probably teacher specific. For standards, I think most are supposed to be mailed to the parents. I've certainly received several of DC's test scores in the mail.

Just scores? Not actual tests?

A lot of the assessment tests are taken online, and no you don't get them back. I don't ever remember getting my SAT tests back, only the test scores.

True, you don't get your SAT tests back, but that was the FIRST test I didn't get back in my entire education. So I don't think that proves that this is normal.

The students get their tests back, as far as I know. It's just that the parents don't get the students' tests back, and the students don't take the tests home.

That's contrary to what the PP's have said. They've said the kids don't get their tests back, and that the teachers keep them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was the main reason we left for private (although my youngest is in public K)

It truly is as ass-backwards as you can get. No tests returned home because of policy. Quizzes, assignments, projects, and papers had ZERO (and I do mean zero) comments, suggestions, where to improve etc..

I as a working mom would have to take off of work early to go to the school to actual see the tests in a whopping 5-10min conference. Only way they will let you see them. Most of the time the teachers seemed annoyed I was wasting their time. Like why should I care what they got wrong? I already saw the score. SO frustrating! They will not let you copy any problems down for you to go over at home with your child. Once the test is done, the move onto the next item no matter how bad everyone did on it. It was really just an awful system. No parent I knew was okay with it but just shrugged it off as policy.

In my kids new school, we receive every test, quiz, project, grade home and MUST sign and return within 48hrs or another point off the test. There are comments written, sentences circled with positive comments. Errors shown and explained. Paragraph at the end saying what they like, room for improvement. For math tests, every problem the child gets wrong, they must redo and submit within 48hrs. If they do, they add a few % back to the test. If they don't, they lose 2%. It just reinforces, show accountability, teaches and not memorizes. It has made such a difference in their work and study habits and attitude.

Again, this is dependent on the teacher. My 1st and 4th graders' HWs, CWs gets sent home with some comments by the teacher.. ie, more detail, "why did xyz... please expand more".. etc. We're in MoCo, not a W school. Some of them don't have any comments even if they got a P. That's ok. I don't need to have a comment on every paper that is not perfect. I can already see what's missing or wrong in some cases.

Your 4th grader gets their tests, quizzes and projects home to keep? All you said was homework and classwork. That means nothing. 1st grade isn't a big deal. But 4th graders have tests. Do you see them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about class tests or standards assessment tests? Class tests policy is probably teacher specific. For standards, I think most are supposed to be mailed to the parents. I've certainly received several of DC's test scores in the mail.

Just scores? Not actual tests?

A lot of the assessment tests are taken online, and no you don't get them back. I don't ever remember getting my SAT tests back, only the test scores.

True, you don't get your SAT tests back, but that was the FIRST test I didn't get back in my entire education. So I don't think that proves that this is normal.

Exactly. Me too. The SAT doesn't give your the answers because it is a national test taken over and over again by many kids at different times of the year. MCPS uses that same policy because they are too lazy to change the test around every year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not just end of year county assessments. Class tests, quizzes, mid term exams and in-class writing assignments. Its ridiculous.

I've seen it in elementary school for my younger child now too. DD received an ES in one writing section and an I in another writing section on the report card. I have never seen anything other than a P on anything that comes home. When I asked the teacher she said the in class work is different than what is sent home and I could come in to see it. The assignments were very different from anything we had seen. She said it was MCPS policy for graded work to be kept at the school until the grade cards were submitted.[b] I had to make a special request for her to send the writing work home at the end of the year. She normally just throws them in the trash the next year. Oh and she never mentioned any of this at the parent teacher conferences, or back to school night earlier in the year. MCPS sucks.

It's not. I know this because my kid brings home graded work.

Do they bring home their graded tests?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about class tests or standards assessment tests? Class tests policy is probably teacher specific. For standards, I think most are supposed to be mailed to the parents. I've certainly received several of DC's test scores in the mail.

Just scores? Not actual tests?

A lot of the assessment tests are taken online, and no you don't get them back. I don't ever remember getting my SAT tests back, only the test scores.

True, you don't get your SAT tests back, but that was the FIRST test I didn't get back in my entire education. So I don't think that proves that this is normal.

The students get their tests back, as far as I know. It's just that the parents don't get the students' tests back, and the students don't take the tests home.

That's contrary to what the PP's have said. They've said the kids don't get their tests back, and that the teachers keep them.

My kid gets tests back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not just end of year county assessments. Class tests, quizzes, mid term exams and in-class writing assignments. Its ridiculous.

I've seen it in elementary school for my younger child now too. DD received an ES in one writing section and an I in another writing section on the report card. I have never seen anything other than a P on anything that comes home. When I asked the teacher she said the in class work is different than what is sent home and I could come in to see it. The assignments were very different from anything we had seen. She said it was MCPS policy for graded work to be kept at the school until the grade cards were submitted.[b] I had to make a special request for her to send the writing work home at the end of the year. She normally just throws them in the trash the next year. Oh and she never mentioned any of this at the parent teacher conferences, or back to school night earlier in the year. MCPS sucks.

It's not. I know this because my kid brings home graded work.

Do they bring home their graded tests?

Did the teacher say that the MCPS policy for graded tests is for the tests to be kept at the school until the grade cards were submitted, or that the MCPS policy for graded work is for the work to be kept at the school until the grade cards were submitted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not new. And it's only the county wide assessments that don't get returned to you. The re-takable assessments are usually returned.

Is the normal subject tests taken ever few weeks that are not returned. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not just end of year county assessments. Class tests, quizzes, mid term exams and in-class writing assignments. Its ridiculous.

I've seen it in elementary school for my younger child now too. DD received an ES in one writing section and an I in another writing section on the report card. I have never seen anything other than a P on anything that comes home. When I asked the teacher she said the in class work is different than what is sent home and I could come in to see it. The assignments were very different from anything we had seen. She said it was MCPS policy for graded work to be kept at the school until the grade cards were submitted.[b] I had to make a special request for her to send the writing work home at the end of the year. She normally just throws them in the trash the next year. Oh and she never mentioned any of this at the parent teacher conferences, or back to school night earlier in the year. MCPS sucks.

It's not. I know this because my kid brings home graded work.

Do they bring home their graded tests?

Did the teacher say that the MCPS policy for graded tests is for the tests to be kept at the school until the grade cards were submitted, or that the MCPS policy for graded work is for the work to be kept at the school until the grade cards were submitted?

I am not the PP you are talking to and I see you didn't answer the question for tests. But just for fun, my kids are not allowed to bring home most graded work. I receive all of it at Nov conference to look over in my large block of 10min. But as a NP, my concern is with tests and quizzes. Does MCPS return those so parents can see who their child is doing/did?

[Anonymous]

^how they are doing, not who

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about class tests or standards assessment tests? Class tests policy is probably teacher specific. For standards, I think most are supposed to be mailed to the parents. I've certainly received several of DC's test scores in the mail.

Just scores? Not actual tests?

A lot of the assessment tests are taken online, and no you don't get them back. I don't ever remember getting my SAT tests back, only the test scores.

True, you don't get your SAT tests back, but that was the FIRST test I didn't get back in my entire education. So I don't think that proves that this is normal.

The students get their tests back, as far as I know. It's just that the parents don't get the students' tests back, and the students don't take the tests home.

Wrong. Why are here posting nonsense? The problem is that teachers and schools are not returning graded subject tests. So zero real feedback, learning or improving or reinforcing, and lazy responses to families that ask for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about class tests or standards assessment tests? Class tests policy is probably teacher specific. For standards, I think most are supposed to be mailed to the parents. I've certainly received several of DC's test scores in the mail.

Just scores? Not actual tests?

A lot of the assessment tests are taken online, and no you don't get them back. I don't ever remember getting my SAT tests back, only the test scores.

True, you don't get your SAT tests back, but that was the FIRST test I didn't get back in my entire education. So I don't think that proves that this is normal.

The students get their tests back, as far as I know. It's just that the parents don't get the students' tests back, and the students don't take the tests home.

Wrong. Why are here posting nonsense? The problem is that teachers and schools are not returning graded subject tests. So zero real feedback, learning or improving or reinforcing, and lazy responses to families that ask for it.

The teachers and school are returning graded subject tests to my middle-school student. My student sees them. I don't see them, but my student sees them.