Does any one really care when Muslims kill Muslims?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No. As demonstrated on this site, people don't care. I don't have any recollection of anyone saying their outrage at any Muslim country the way they do at Israel. People on this site are not anti- Semites, they are anti- Jews. It sickens me. Even the person who owns te site takes it upon himself to rewrite history at every turn. I will not patronize any of the advertisers that support this site. That's for sure.

That's because no Muslim country engages in enthusiastic chest-thumping about being the only democracy in the sea of darkness, our only friend in the ocean of the hostile unwashed, the sole source of enlightened values and the seat of chosen people, to boot. Israel aspires to moral superiority while behaving exactly like any other tribal dictator.


Well said.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. As demonstrated on this site, people don't care. I don't have any recollection of anyone saying their outrage at any Muslim country the way they do at Israel. People on this site are not anti- Semites, they are anti- Jews. It sickens me. Even the person who owns te site takes it upon himself to rewrite history at every turn. I will not patronize any of the advertisers that support this site. That's for sure.

That's because no Muslim country engages in enthusiastic chest-thumping about being the only democracy in the sea of darkness, our only friend in the ocean of the hostile unwashed, the sole source of enlightened values and the seat of chosen people, to boot. Israel aspires to moral superiority while behaving exactly like any other tribal dictator.


Well said.


That is because there are no other democracies in the middle east.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. As demonstrated on this site, people don't care. I don't have any recollection of anyone saying their outrage at any Muslim country the way they do at Israel. People on this site are not anti- Semites, they are anti- Jews. It sickens me. Even the person who owns te site takes it upon himself to rewrite history at every turn. I will not patronize any of the advertisers that support this site. That's for sure.

That's because no Muslim country engages in enthusiastic chest-thumping about being the only democracy in the sea of darkness, our only friend in the ocean of the hostile unwashed, the sole source of enlightened values and the seat of chosen people, to boot. Israel aspires to moral superiority while behaving exactly like any other tribal dictator.


Well said.


That is because there are no other democracies in the middle east.


Other democracy? Are you alleging that Israel is a democracy? LOL
Anonymous
Muslims don't care, and embrace killing and death. Why should anyone else? When are moderate Muslims going to step up and say enough is enough? 13 years after 9/11 and nothing has changed for the Muslim people - they are still fighting and celebrating/encouraging the killing of innocents. When will Muslims join the civilized world, rather than trying to create a 6th century caliphate?
Anonymous
15:51, you must be a Hezbollah operative. Dirtbag.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Muslims don't care, and embrace killing and death. Why should anyone else? When are moderate Muslims going to step up and say enough is enough? 13 years after 9/11 and nothing has changed for the Muslim people - they are still fighting and celebrating/encouraging the killing of innocents. When will Muslims join the civilized world, rather than trying to create a 6th century caliphate?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. As demonstrated on this site, people don't care. I don't have any recollection of anyone saying their outrage at any Muslim country the way they do at Israel. People on this site are not anti- Semites, they are anti- Jews. It sickens me. Even the person who owns te site takes it upon himself to rewrite history at every turn. I will not patronize any of the advertisers that support this site. That's for sure.

That's because no Muslim country engages in enthusiastic chest-thumping about being the only democracy in the sea of darkness, our only friend in the ocean of the hostile unwashed, the sole source of enlightened values and the seat of chosen people, to boot. Israel aspires to moral superiority while behaving exactly like any other tribal dictator.


Well said.


That is because there are no other democracies in the middle east.
Egypt was for a while. Turkey is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Muslims don't care, and embrace killing and death. Why should anyone else? When are moderate Muslims going to step up and say enough is enough? 13 years after 9/11 and nothing has changed for the Muslim people - they are still fighting and celebrating/encouraging the killing of innocents. When will Muslims join the civilized world, rather than trying to create a 6th century caliphate?


Israel is a theocracy.
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Anonymous wrote:Muslims don't care, and embrace killing and death. Why should anyone else? When are moderate Muslims going to step up and say enough is enough? 13 years after 9/11 and nothing has changed for the Muslim people - they are still fighting and celebrating/encouraging the killing of innocents. When will Muslims join the civilized world, rather than trying to create a 6th century caliphate?


I am against the term Moderate Muslim. It somehow implies that Muslims can only be good if they do not adhere completely to their faith but do so in a moderate way. It implies that Orthodox Islam is violent and doesn't have its place in western society and somehow, an Orthodox Muslim by definition is an extremist, terrorist or what not. The irony is by definition Islam is moderate, the very tenants of our religion tell us that we have to always choose the middle ground, and we can't be extreme. So the essence of Islam and definition of Muslim in itself means to be moderate which makes the term moderate Muslim redundant..

Having said that, there are radical Muslims and extremists who use religion to convert the masses to their own agenda. The majority of Muslims are against them, but do you think FoxNews will have us on air saying that? I have seen thousands of Muslims speak against them, march at 9-11 but didn't get any air time. We do not control the media and who they choose to show on tv. But they would rather show someone like Ossama than Muslima even though more than 90% of Muslims might be like Muslima
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslims don't care, and embrace killing and death. Why should anyone else? When are moderate Muslims going to step up and say enough is enough? 13 years after 9/11 and nothing has changed for the Muslim people - they are still fighting and celebrating/encouraging the killing of innocents. When will Muslims join the civilized world, rather than trying to create a 6th century caliphate?


I am against the term Moderate Muslim. It somehow implies that Muslims can only be good if they do not adhere completely to their faith but do so in a moderate way. It implies that Orthodox Islam is violent and doesn't have its place in western society and somehow, an Orthodox Muslim by definition is an extremist, terrorist or what not. The irony is by definition Islam is moderate, the very tenants of our religion tell us that we have to always choose the middle ground, and we can't be extreme. So the essence of Islam and definition of Muslim in itself means to be moderate which makes the term moderate Muslim redundant..

Having said that, there are radical Muslims and extremists who use religion to convert the masses to their own agenda. The majority of Muslims are against them, but do you think FoxNews will have us on air saying that? I have seen thousands of Muslims speak against them, march at 9-11 but didn't get any air time. We do not control the media and who they choose to show on tv. But they would rather show someone like Ossama than Muslima even though more than 90% of Muslims might be like Muslima


And the same is true for posting videos of the Israelis who celebrate the war in Gaza. 99% of Israelis and Jews want peace, but those arent the ones they put on tv/youtube.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No. As demonstrated on this site, people don't care. I don't have any recollection of anyone saying their outrage at any Muslim country the way they do at Israel. People on this site are not anti- Semites, they are anti- Jews. It sickens me. Even the person who owns te site takes it upon himself to rewrite history at every turn. I will not patronize any of the advertisers that support this site. That's for sure.


+1 It's actually quite shocking to me in such an educated community, but clearly I'm just naive.
Anonymous
From The Wall Street Journal. This article demonstrates the double standard facing Israel.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/bret-stephens-palestine-and-double-standards-1407194971
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. As demonstrated on this site, people don't care. I don't have any recollection of anyone saying their outrage at any Muslim country the way they do at Israel. People on this site are not anti- Semites, they are anti- Jews. It sickens me. Even the person who owns te site takes it upon himself to rewrite history at every turn. I will not patronize any of the advertisers that support this site. That's for sure.


+1 It's actually quite shocking to me in such an educated community, but clearly I'm just naive.


W expect more from educated, civilized people (the Israeli's/Jews)-I guess we expect such atrocities from the others (fill in the blanks) from the countries where terrorism, and killing in the name of God is to be expected and embraced.
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Anonymous wrote:This is going to be subjective, but... I feel like it would be easier if more Muslim countries condemned the bad Muslim actors. Without stronger leadership from the Muslim world, it's hard for us to criticize without coming off as seeming anti-Islam, intolerant of other cultures' values, and all the rest.

I'm aware that some Muslims do criticize others, but it never seems to rise to the level you see when, for example, one western nation criticizes another. You see brave individuals criticizing Hamas or whomever. But it's much rarer that one Muslim state will take an official position about the behavior of another state or a movement.


They do, you just don't see it on Western media because that is not the narrative. ALL Muslim countries, leaders and scholars condemned 9.11. People marched on the streets against the terrorists, but they only showed you those celebrating. Why?
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