What? You do know that the Viet Cong offered to release McCain early because of his dad. He refused unless all were released. |
| The country is going down the toilet. Everybody can feel the bottom dropping out. We ignore it for our sanity but the future looks dark. |
"Pretty healthy???" He was pale, gaunt, shriveled and skeletal, weak, looked like he was having trouble seeing, he shuffled along with a limp and without any energy, he was holding his one arm as though it were injured, and by all accounts he could barely speak and didn't even know his own name. I guess the thin, skeletal Jews liberated from Nazi concentration camps were also "pretty healthy" by your reckoning. |
Nah, only for you. The rest of us are doing great. |
Thanks Archie Bunker. To me unemployment is going down, stocks are going up, and we are getting out of our wars. |
Five years and no beheading. Why? |
If you think Bergdahl looked like a concentration camp survivor, I suggest you spend a day at the Holocaust Museum. |
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The bottom line was that John McCain was released and the US withdrew from Vietnam. The war was not finished when he was released. Shortly after we got his ass out of the Hanoi Hilton, South Vietnam fell to the Communists.
As far as John McCain is concerned it was fine to save his ass and then let the nation for which we had sacrificed 58k American lives was fine, but to secure the release of a Marine Corps Sergeant is wrong. This demonstrates again how the Republican have contempt for working class people. The vast majority of the prisoners held in North Vietnam were Commissioned Officers in the Air Force and the Navy. They were aviators who had been shot down over North Vietnam. We secured their release and then we let South Vietnam fall to the Communists. According to John McCain that was fine, but he says securing the release of an enlisted man was wrong. What a f-king hypocrite. Those of us who served as enlisted service men and women know there is a very definite class system in the armed forces. We lived with it and we saluted every dope we passed on the street who was wearing shoulder boards even if we had eighteen years of service and that Second Lieutenant had only served six months. We knew we were expendable and would be used like pons on a chess board. However, we never believed we would be scorned when we returned home from war or that our country would not do everything possible to secure our release if we were captured. Enlisted men and women across this country. Those of you out there who were never allowed to enter the O-Club, please support Sgt. Bergdahl and shun anyone who criticizes his release. |
Twisting the facts here. The war was over for the United States. He was released after the Paris Peace Accords. South Vietnam fell after the US pulled out. |
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http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/index-1969.html
Here's a timeline on the end of Vietnam. Pay special attention to January 1973. US hostilities were over. |
You're splitting hairs. The US lost 58k lives defending South Vietnam and we guaranteed their future security. We secured the release of our POWs from the Hanoi Hilton, most of whom were Commissioned Officers. The war was not finished! Then the North attacked South Vietnam and it fell to the Communists. Enlisted ground forces who were captured and taken as POWs were never returned from Vietnam or Korea. Americans don't give a damn about enlisted men an women who are taken as POWs. |
You are totally kidding, right? At least you are no physician because you are totally clueless on assessing someone's health. Bergdahl looks nothing like his photo from before he went missing. He looks older and more haggard than a man pushing 60 and he's only in his 20s. He looks like hell in the video.
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Didn't say he looked healthy. Go look at pictures of concentration camp survivors. Big difference. |
Backpedaling now, eh? Glad you finally agree he didn't look healthy. Point made, end of discussion. |
Are you suggesting we stay in Afghanistan until the Taliban is totally defeated? You are splitting hairs. And, yes, we did abandon the South Vietnames. |