APS - Percentage of 2nd/4th Graders w/ Very High (95%+) NNAT/CogAT Scores?

[Anonymous]

My son got 99% on the COGAT but we weren't offered anything (and never have been). I'm assuming this is because he's 2e (he's also dyslexic) and no one knows how to deal with that in Arlington. I've given up on asking about any gifted services for him, as it never goes anywhere and, regardless, is far from our biggest issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son got 99% on the COGAT but we weren't offered anything (and never have been). I'm assuming this is because he's 2e (he's also dyslexic) and no one knows how to deal with that in Arlington. I've given up on asking about any gifted services for him, as it never goes anywhere and, regardless, is far from our biggest issue.

have you tried special ed? can't imagine they couldn't be helpful

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An IQ in the 95th-97th percentile is only a 125-130. This isn't a child who is anything special in affluent schools.

I completely agree with you, but try telling that to the parents of FCPS who insist that their AAP kids are as special as they come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An IQ in the 95th-97th percentile is only a 125-130. This isn't a child who is anything special in affluent schools.

I completely agree with you, but try telling that to the parents of FCPS who insist that their AAP kids are as special as they come.

This thread is about APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An IQ in the 95th-97th percentile is only a 125-130. This isn't a child who is anything special in affluent schools.

I completely agree with you, but try telling that to the parents of FCPS who insist that their AAP kids are as special as they come.

This thread is about APS.

Oh, sorry, Thead Police.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, 11:12, but the OP was pretty clearly an APS parent who wanted to know why her/his kids weren't getting GT services, so experiences in other districts aren't going to help her/him understand why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:tried to find this on the APS website but to no avail. does anyone on here have the inside scoop to share? tks!

(why am i asking? yes, of course it's about GT services availability for DC)

Based on the large number of smarter and better educated families around here, I wouldn't be surprised if 10-15% would score in the top 5% of a national test.

[Anonymous]

It's not really about the percentiles. Up to 40% of the kids in some schools end up in the AAP program -- but the ones who score in are a minuscule 2-5%. In my opinion, the more important bit is the teacher's recommendation (packaged in the GBRS score). In some schools, teachers are allowed to be more creative, and children are encouraged to engage at a higher level -- hence the higher GBRS numbers. If your child did not score in the "pool" (and sometimes even if he did!), the only way to still get in the AAP is through a teacher who really appreciates him.

So.. it *is* a beauty pageant after all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not really about the percentiles. Up to 40% of the kids in some schools end up in the AAP program -- but the ones who score in are a minuscule 2-5%. In my opinion, the more important bit is the teacher's recommendation (packaged in the GBRS score). In some schools, teachers are allowed to be more creative, and children are encouraged to engage at a higher level -- hence the higher GBRS numbers. If your child did not score in the "pool" (and sometimes even if he did!), the only way to still get in the AAP is through a teacher who really appreciates him.

So.. it *is* a beauty pageant after all.

WTF is AAP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not really about the percentiles. Up to 40% of the kids in some schools end up in the AAP program -- but the ones who score in are a minuscule 2-5%. In my opinion, the more important bit is the teacher's recommendation (packaged in the GBRS score). In some schools, teachers are allowed to be more creative, and children are encouraged to engage at a higher level -- hence the higher GBRS numbers. If your child did not score in the "pool" (and sometimes even if he did!), the only way to still get in the AAP is through a teacher who really appreciates him.

So.. it *is* a beauty pageant after all.

WTF is AAP?

Another poster who thinks Fairfax info is relevant here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is it possible that 95%-tile actually ranks them below avg in APS???

Nope, but it really isn't special enough to need more than Arlington provides to the average kid.

That's not necessarily true for all elementary schools in the APS system. From anecdotal stories across schools, it's a mixed bag.

Now that 2014 CogAT scores are in, does anybody have an idea about score trends in their school? And what cutoff their schools are using (if any) in order to provide additional services.

[Anonymous]

I have a 2nd grader in APS. Did they take the CogAT at the beginning of school? Are those results mailed like the NNAT or do they just go to the school. I'm trying to figure out if I've seen them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a 2nd grader in APS. Did they take the CogAT at the beginning of school? Are those results mailed like the NNAT or do they just go to the school. I'm trying to figure out if I've seen them.

They take the CogAT in 4th in APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a 2nd grader in APS. Did they take the CogAT at the beginning of school? Are those results mailed like the NNAT or do they just go to the school. I'm trying to figure out if I've seen them.

CogAT is taken only by 4th graders in APS. The above post also shows how informed APS keeps parents about tests that are being taken. There is very little clarity in how these scores are used. At least at our school no such information is made available. Consequently, most parents probably don't know what CogAT is and what to make of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son got 99% on the COGAT but we weren't offered anything (and never have been). I'm assuming this is because he's 2e (he's also dyslexic) and no one knows how to deal with that in Arlington. I've given up on asking about any gifted services for him, as it never goes anywhere and, regardless, is far from our biggest issue.

have you tried special ed? can't imagine they couldn't be helpful

If in your budget you should consider a local private. Many are wonderful with 2e kiddos. Also keep in mind that many kids with SN test artifically high on COGAT because they cannot get through enough of the test to show the full result. That may be why APS is not contacting you to provide services. That's not to say your kid is not smart, just that there may not be what is though to be a good assessment of that just yet. If the SN are of the type that you can develop "out of them," try testing again after that point and see what happens. Of course, in our similar experience, GT is not the best in APS anyway, which is why I mention private.