DC speeding camera ticket

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the scam of photo radar tickets, which serve mostly to line the pockets of the contractors who run the systems and the jurisdictions who extract hidden taxes via the high fees and one-sided rules requiring you to "pay to play" if you even want to contest a citation in a meaningful way.

There is an easy way to avoid participating in this scam. I will even tell you what it is!

Don't speed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the scam of photo radar tickets, which serve mostly to line the pockets of the contractors who run the systems and the jurisdictions who extract hidden taxes via the high fees and one-sided rules requiring you to "pay to play" if you even want to contest a citation in a meaningful way.

Read yesterday that MD legislators are trying to pass a law putting stricter regulations on speed cameras. I was very surprised to read how unregulated they currently are.

One of the things they wish to outlaw is contractor agreements that are paid out by ticket volume....i.e. the companies get paid more if they issue more tickets.

[Anonymous]

I got a $250 "handicap ticket" for parking in a regular spot. It was a BOGUS ticket. I documented proof that my car was parked legally and took pictures of everything. I even spoke to the meter maid who gave me a ticket, trying to show her it wasn't a handicapped spot (she played dumb). I went to the courthouse, tried to fight it and I STILL LOST!!!!!

It was unreal. I learned my lesson- just shut up and pay the damn ticket. It's more like a tax for driving into DC than a ticket since most of the tickets are bogus.

I pretty much refuse to drive into DC anymore now, so DC is losing $$$ from me (since I was shopping and eating in Georgetown when the bogus ticket occurred).

[Anonymous]

Just reading this thread infuriates me.

I'm not a speeder but DC makes it HARD to go the speed limit. It's constantly changing and always too low (25mph!? Why?!?). It's all a scam to get you to pay.

[Anonymous]

I got a bogus parking ticket in DC, sent in my fee to have it disputed (which is RIDICULOUS). Two YEARS later got a letter saying they found in my favor, but they never refunded my money. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just reading this thread infuriates me.

I'm not a speeder but DC makes it HARD to go the speed limit. It's constantly changing and always too low (25mph!? Why?!?). It's all a scam to get you to pay.

I've been saying this for years and the council finally agreed with me. They were supposed to lower the fines last year. Some people on this site can only see black and white and don't seem to understand that excessive fines are just as bad as no fines. It's like putting someone away for life for stealing a pack of gum.

Oh, I'm a DC resident but park my car majority of the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the scam of photo radar tickets, which serve mostly to line the pockets of the contractors who run the systems and the jurisdictions who extract hidden taxes via the high fees and one-sided rules requiring you to "pay to play" if you even want to contest a citation in a meaningful way.

There is an easy way to avoid participating in this scam. I will even tell you what it is!

Don't speed.

Well, Mr. or Ms. Sanctimonious,

If you read above or if you know anything about how this system works, you would know that your glib rejoinder is wrong and reflects your ignorance of the facts.

Photo radar can take a picture of more than one vehicle in the field of view. One car may be going 75 mph, one may be going 50 mph. The camera cannot tell which is which.

So you will be informed to know that the driver going 50 mph in a 50 mph zone can, indeed, get a photo radar citation even though they are not speeding.

I'm sure you enjoyed your goody two-shoes moment of self righteousness but it is not based in fact. Keep on dreaming that dream, snowflake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the scam of photo radar tickets, which serve mostly to line the pockets of the contractors who run the systems and the jurisdictions who extract hidden taxes via the high fees and one-sided rules requiring you to "pay to play" if you even want to contest a citation in a meaningful way.

There is an easy way to avoid participating in this scam. I will even tell you what it is!

Don't speed.

Well, Mr. or Ms. Sanctimonious,

If you read above or if you know anything about how this system works, you would know that your glib rejoinder is wrong and reflects your ignorance of the facts.

Photo radar can take a picture of more than one vehicle in the field of view. One car may be going 75 mph, one may be going 50 mph. The camera cannot tell which is which.

So you will be informed to know that the driver going 50 mph in a 50 mph zone can, indeed, get a photo radar citation even though they are not speeding.

I'm sure you enjoyed your goody two-shoes moment of self righteousness but it is not based in fact. Keep on dreaming that dream, snowflake.

It sure is based in fact for me. I don't speed, and I've never gotten any speeding tickets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just reading this thread infuriates me.

I'm not a speeder but DC makes it HARD to go the speed limit. It's constantly changing and always too low (25mph!? Why?!?). It's all a scam to get you to pay.

It's actually your obligation as a driver to look out for the signs that tell you what the speed limit is. (As well as to drive at that speed limit, or slower.)

Where, specifically, is the 25 mph speed limit you object to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I got a $250 "handicap ticket" for parking in a regular spot. It was a BOGUS ticket. I documented proof that my car was parked legally and took pictures of everything. I even spoke to the meter maid who gave me a ticket, trying to show her it wasn't a handicapped spot (she played dumb). I went to the courthouse, tried to fight it and I STILL LOST!!!!!

It was unreal. I learned my lesson- just shut up and pay the damn ticket. It's more like a tax for driving into DC than a ticket since most of the tickets are bogus.

I pretty much refuse to drive into DC anymore now, so DC is losing $$$ from me (since I was shopping and eating in Georgetown when the bogus ticket occurred).

You had documented proof that the car was parked legally, and you went to the courthouse and fought it, and yet you still lost?

Maybe the car wasn't parked legally?

In which case, perhaps the people in DC are not very unhappy that somebody who parks illegally no longer comes to DC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got a $250 "handicap ticket" for parking in a regular spot. It was a BOGUS ticket. I documented proof that my car was parked legally and took pictures of everything. I even spoke to the meter maid who gave me a ticket, trying to show her it wasn't a handicapped spot (she played dumb). I went to the courthouse, tried to fight it and I STILL LOST!!!!!

It was unreal. I learned my lesson- just shut up and pay the damn ticket. It's more like a tax for driving into DC than a ticket since most of the tickets are bogus.

I pretty much refuse to drive into DC anymore now, so DC is losing $$$ from me (since I was shopping and eating in Georgetown when the bogus ticket occurred).

You had documented proof that the car was parked legally, and you went to the courthouse and fought it, and yet you still lost?

Maybe the car wasn't parked legally?

In which case, perhaps the people in DC are not very unhappy that somebody who parks illegally no longer comes to DC?

Are you the same one replying to everyone above? If yes, please shut up. You sound insufferable and ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got a $250 "handicap ticket" for parking in a regular spot. It was a BOGUS ticket. I documented proof that my car was parked legally and took pictures of everything. I even spoke to the meter maid who gave me a ticket, trying to show her it wasn't a handicapped spot (she played dumb). I went to the courthouse, tried to fight it and I STILL LOST!!!!!

It was unreal. I learned my lesson- just shut up and pay the damn ticket. It's more like a tax for driving into DC than a ticket since most of the tickets are bogus.

I pretty much refuse to drive into DC anymore now, so DC is losing $$$ from me (since I was shopping and eating in Georgetown when the bogus ticket occurred).

You had documented proof that the car was parked legally, and you went to the courthouse and fought it, and yet you still lost?

Maybe the car wasn't parked legally?

In which case, perhaps the people in DC are not very unhappy that somebody who parks illegally no longer comes to DC?

Excuse me?! I parked in Georgetown, paid my meter and came back to a handicapped ticket with towing requested. I WAS NOT IN A HANDICAPPED SPACE. The meter maid was a complete idiot and I saw her ticket another car as well. I am not a jerk who parks in handicapped spaces.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the scam of photo radar tickets, which serve mostly to line the pockets of the contractors who run the systems and the jurisdictions who extract hidden taxes via the high fees and one-sided rules requiring you to "pay to play" if you even want to contest a citation in a meaningful way.

There is an easy way to avoid participating in this scam. I will even tell you what it is!

Don't speed.

Well, Mr. or Ms. Sanctimonious,

If you read above or if you know anything about how this system works, you would know that your glib rejoinder is wrong and reflects your ignorance of the facts.

Photo radar can take a picture of more than one vehicle in the field of view. One car may be going 75 mph, one may be going 50 mph. The camera cannot tell which is which.

So you will be informed to know that the driver going 50 mph in a 50 mph zone can, indeed, get a photo radar citation even though they are not speeding.

I'm sure you enjoyed your goody two-shoes moment of self righteousness but it is not based in fact. Keep on dreaming that dream, snowflake.

It sure is based in fact for me. I don't speed, and I've never gotten any speeding tickets.

Well aren't you special?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the scam of photo radar tickets, which serve mostly to line the pockets of the contractors who run the systems and the jurisdictions who extract hidden taxes via the high fees and one-sided rules requiring you to "pay to play" if you even want to contest a citation in a meaningful way.

There is an easy way to avoid participating in this scam. I will even tell you what it is!

Don't speed.

Well, Mr. or Ms. Sanctimonious,

If you read above or if you know anything about how this system works, you would know that your glib rejoinder is wrong and reflects your ignorance of the facts.

Photo radar can take a picture of more than one vehicle in the field of view. One car may be going 75 mph, one may be going 50 mph. The camera cannot tell which is which.

So you will be informed to know that the driver going 50 mph in a 50 mph zone can, indeed, get a photo radar citation even though they are not speeding.

I'm sure you enjoyed your goody two-shoes moment of self righteousness but it is not based in fact. Keep on dreaming that dream, snowflake.

It sure is based in fact for me. I don't speed, and I've never gotten any speeding tickets.

I have never been hit by a meteorite.

Therefore meteorites must not exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got a $250 "handicap ticket" for parking in a regular spot. It was a BOGUS ticket. I documented proof that my car was parked legally and took pictures of everything. I even spoke to the meter maid who gave me a ticket, trying to show her it wasn't a handicapped spot (she played dumb). I went to the courthouse, tried to fight it and I STILL LOST!!!!!

It was unreal. I learned my lesson- just shut up and pay the damn ticket. It's more like a tax for driving into DC than a ticket since most of the tickets are bogus.

I pretty much refuse to drive into DC anymore now, so DC is losing $$$ from me (since I was shopping and eating in Georgetown when the bogus ticket occurred).

You had documented proof that the car was parked legally, and you went to the courthouse and fought it, and yet you still lost?

Maybe the car wasn't parked legally?

In which case, perhaps the people in DC are not very unhappy that somebody who parks illegally no longer comes to DC?

This shit happens all the time. I was sent a collection for a ticket I never received. It had my license number, but the wrong make and model of the car. It was also supposedly issued on a day in which my car was sitting in the parking lot of the Washington navy yard while I worked upstairs in my building. The alleged offense occurred in uptown Northwest. I never received a ticket, and so I moved to vacate when I received the notice via a collection letter. City said I did not appeal in a timely manner. How can one appeal something in which there was not notice. It's a racket. Oh, and I live in DC. If I lived in VA or MD, I would say fuck DC and not pay it.

For the red light camera ticket alleged violators, there's no reciprocity in your jurisdictions, so if I were you, I would not pay the red light cameras