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Trust me OP I understand. I also don't understand why people think everyone can just have the "talk" and it is that easy or over.
My problem is with my parents. I will always be their little girl and that is it. AND NO I am not going to give my parents an ultimatum to stop it or I am out of the family. What I do is - except the reality I am in and learn to live in the way that makes me happy. I don't tell them I am going to buy a computer. I tell them I just bought a computer. I hear the message of how they knew better how to do it, thank them and tell them how satisfied I am with my decision. When I bought my condo (30 years after their last home purchase) the price for a one bedroom was the same as their big house. Their argument that I paid to much was acknowledged and I asked if they wanted to come see the place. They were happy to see me happy. It never stops and as they have gotten older in my dad it is starting to look like Alzheimer and I just keep letting it roll. |
| OP, my mom is not nearly as bad, but I try to avoid telling her things that I know are going to invoke her judgement or over-the-top-worrying. Fortunately, she likes to talk about herself and her grandbaby, so it's relatively easy to manage the conversation. |
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PP, you could be me!
And you're right. They are never going to change. I just say "hmm-mm" and try to change the subject, or leave or hang up under some pretext or other. OP, definitely limit contact, otherwise you will blow up one day and then they will really have grist to their mill
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My mom is similar to OP's parents. Every decision I make is wrong if I don't make the choice she would have made. Usually this is accompanied by a long lecture of exactly why she thinks I've made a horrible choice that will ruin everything. My way of dealing with this only worked after months of consistently doing it.
When she goes into hypercritical mode, I just say, Mom, I've made my choice and I'm comfortable with it. You've voiced your reasons for not liking it and I disagree. We don't need to talk about this again, it will just cause an argument. If she starts up again I tell her that I'm done talking about it because she only has negative things to say, and that we can talk about something else or I will leave/hang up/etc. If I said I would leave/hang up, etc., I followed through. She rolls her eyes and gets huffy but the endless criticism has definitely decreased. |
You could say, "Mom, I'm not discussing this." She can discuss all she wants, but you don't have to just because she wants to. Good luck, OP. |
| I get why you're annoyed, OP, but at the same time ... I wish to God my parents would offer to help pay for things once in a while. |
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| The problem isn't that they're know-it-alls, it seems -- it's that they're intrusive and don't respect boundaries. Maybe just say "I appreciate your advice, but we've already decided what we're doing." |
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2331++ I have a relative like this, not a parent but someone who is a nice person but also dying to give advice on everything in life. The Downey quote is exactly what I do.
When my relative says I should do blah blah blah, or call blah blah or not drive a few blocks to blah blah because dinner's gonna be in an hour or shouldn't go outside because it's raining (or whatever silly thing comes up) I smile and nod and say little. She might repeat "I'm just saying...because..(blah blah)" I smile and nod or say uh-huh. And change the subject. And do as I please. |
OP, I understand that you've tried the shut-down approach but keep trying(unless you really are OK with the possible lifetime alternative of just cutting them out of your world). You say "they'd just accuse me of trying to change the subject." Great! That's your opening to turn to them, smile a huge smile and say, "Yes! You're right, I am changing the subject because that subject is now closed -- decision made, best one for us. Now, what do you want for dinner?" Or "Whatever happened with that neighbor of yours?" or "How is your dog?" or whatever else you know to ask about them. Repeat. And repeat. They are trying to wear you down; you have to wear them down first. Like young children they need to learn that they do not get the reward of your attention if they do the thing you don't like. Arguing with them, engaging their concerns with any discussion, or scolding them for being, well, jerks, is still giving them attention. So: Shut down with short "we're happy" comment, change topic, listen like crazy and ask follow-ups on their answers so they can't get in another word about YOU as they talk about themselves. Repeat. It's like dealing with children -- remove attention instantly when behavior is bad, and/or distract and redirect. Isn't it ridiculous to have to deal with adults in that way?! |
OP, you don't mention money in your description of the issue, but the examples you gave are all about money. What's really going on? Did you come from a wealthy background and marry someone of lesser means? |
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This was us with MIL last week.
She came over for dinner and DH wasnt feeling well. MIL: what did you eat today? DH: A wrap MIL: Wraps are always old. they like to hide the old food in wraps. they also sit out all day. DH: It was a freshly made wrap. MIL: I am sure it was still old. Drink some coco cola DH: No thanks MIL: drink it, the syrup will help DH: I dont want any (repeat the coca cola argument about 10 more times) Me: He is 33 yrs old and if he doesnt want coke, just let it go. MIL (to me): dont yell at me, but do you have cocacola? Where do you keep it? (she knows where the soda is and could easily get it herself) Me: <silence> 2 mins later, MIL is holding a coke and puts it in DH's face. He takes a sip. 2 mins after that, DH does to throw up. MIL: see, the coca cola really got things moving. Meanwhile, the kids keep asking - Daddy, did you have a bad wrap? Did the wrap make you sick? You shouldnt eat wraps. And then she wonders why I didnt tell her when I had to go to the hospital during my pregnancy. |